Well they've long been dead in my eyes. Cheaply made, malfunctions they call consoles and no exclusives I've liked since Crackdown (thats the first one, not the shitty sequel)
I genuinely think Microsoft are out of the running
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With the third party support Microsoft has, both in core and casual gaming, I'm sure that Microsoft can cater both demographics. In addition that I've read somewhere that analysts predicts the 360 still has a life span of roughly five years still, and I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same case with Sony. Although, I don't have any hard evidence to support this.
But I don't think Microsoft is going to hit the seafloor wearing concrete shoes.
But I don't think Microsoft is going to hit the seafloor wearing concrete shoes.
That's what I'm suggesting, that eventually they stuff so many bits and bobs in the console that it IS a PC, just with a different control scheme.Garak73 said:
Xbox is on the things Microsoft does insanely well. Insanely well meaning "making a shitload of money".
Most of the time, Microsoft tries to compete where it just doesn't need to or just shouldn't. Zune, windows phone, bing...these are all shitty secondary products that are rip offs from Apple or Google. That's where their real failing is.
Most of the time, Microsoft tries to compete where it just doesn't need to or just shouldn't. Zune, windows phone, bing...these are all shitty secondary products that are rip offs from Apple or Google. That's where their real failing is.
1) Microsoft is still kicking ass in sales (I think that it's second behind Wii and closing fast)
2) XBL affords many different services that PSN does not have, and the support for the online marketplace by MS is greater than that afforded by either Sony or Nintendo
3) I agree that MS WILL find itself in a troublesome spot if it continues to sink money into [risks like the Kinect/established franchises like Halo] rather than safeguarding console exclusives (ie Mass Effect, Bioshock).
2) XBL affords many different services that PSN does not have, and the support for the online marketplace by MS is greater than that afforded by either Sony or Nintendo
3) I agree that MS WILL find itself in a troublesome spot if it continues to sink money into [risks like the Kinect/established franchises like Halo] rather than safeguarding console exclusives (ie Mass Effect, Bioshock).
The X360 library is in no way superior to the PS3.
And I speak as an owner of all the consoles. I rarely buy anything for my 360 that isn't a shooter or a racer.
And I speak as an owner of all the consoles. I rarely buy anything for my 360 that isn't a shooter or a racer.
It's true that Sony isn't in dire straits financially (as you try to force me to imply, sneaky poster), and I seriously doubt anyone is going to leave the industry entirely, but Sony really needs to change their game up and quick if they want the PS3 to remain truly competitive. Doubly so if they want my business.warm slurm said:
This is all conjecture anyway, but why not. I've got a couple hours to kill.
Microsoft has been turning steady profits a year before the PS3 hit shelves. All of that is money they got to reinvest immediately. They've invested it into suckering indie developers to publish on XBLA. They've invested it into getting developers to code specifically for their system first (and then port to PS3 and PC later. Hi there every Unreal Engine and Bethesda game!). They've consolidated their gains. Sony has been slowly dragging its ass on the carpet in comparison. They turn a profit, sure, but that's not how business is gauged; it's who turns MORE profits, and right now that's Nintendo (with Microsoft trailing just behind them in the States).
It took Sony 3 years to catch up and they are only doing so now because of two massive price cuts to the PS3. They're bragging about their market saturation level being ready to "overtake Microsoft's" when in reality, it's probably just going to break even (consider the demographic, and the utter lack of incentives to buy a PS3 definitively over an Xbox 360. They just aren't different enough and the games are largely the same).
Oh, and they are selling each of those systems at a MASSIVE loss. A MUCH GREATER loss than each 360.
This year alone, I've watched three of my friends sell their PS3's back because they just weren't using them anymore. Why? Because the 360 has more market leverage, and they're already connected by XBL.
The PS3 has some great games on it (even the Dreamcast you mentioned had great titles on it before it up and died), but it's just not enough to satisfy IMO.
It took Sony 3 years to catch up and they are only doing so now because of two massive price cuts to the PS3. They're bragging about their market saturation level being ready to "overtake Microsoft's" when in reality, it's probably just going to break even (consider the demographic, and the utter lack of incentives to buy a PS3 definitively over an Xbox 360. They just aren't different enough and the games are largely the same).
Oh, and they are selling each of those systems at a MASSIVE loss. A MUCH GREATER loss than each 360.
This year alone, I've watched three of my friends sell their PS3's back because they just weren't using them anymore. Why? Because the 360 has more market leverage, and they're already connected by XBL.
The PS3 has some great games on it (even the Dreamcast you mentioned had great titles on it before it up and died), but it's just not enough to satisfy IMO.
Condensed for the people who don't care about the opinions of a random internet poster.
Here's a good example. Microsoft expected to sell 1 million Kinects by the end of the year. They sold 1 million Kinects in the first weekend.veloper said:
edit: I googled "Kinect sales" for you, you bum. http://www.csmonitor.com/Innovation/Horizons/2010/1130/Kinect-sales-top-2.5-million-Microsoft
Well, before you go out and write a long winded paragraph at least do a little bit of research, because most of what you say is horribly wrong lol.
But I would say that the 360 and PS3 are pretty much on even footing now. Sony might be last in the US, but they're ahead in Japan and the 360 is still pretty much tanking there.Atmos Duality said:
The thing is, Sony took a loss on the PS3's hardware for quite some time. I'm not entirely certain even now if they're breaking even on the PS3 (anyone, feel free to educate us on this point.) And while signs are improving, it really seems like the much-vaunted Blu-Ray has yet to catch fire.
I can't imagine Sony being in a hurry to introduce another console with the potential for every sale to put them further in the red and have another long spell of holding their breath while the major players come to terms with how to program for the new hardware and release games that show it to its best advantage.
In the computer market, while chips do continue to improve, we've increasingly come to a point where the big improvements in performance come from adding more cores rather than big incremental leaps in the CPUs themselves. This is not as easy to mass-produce in a console at a price customers will happily swallow.
I can't imagine Sony being in a hurry to introduce another console with the potential for every sale to put them further in the red and have another long spell of holding their breath while the major players come to terms with how to program for the new hardware and release games that show it to its best advantage.
In the computer market, while chips do continue to improve, we've increasingly come to a point where the big improvements in performance come from adding more cores rather than big incremental leaps in the CPUs themselves. This is not as easy to mass-produce in a console at a price customers will happily swallow.