I genuinely think Microsoft are out of the running

[pulse2]

PS3 is actually the greatest value (you pay $100 more and get a large harddrive, free internet, and blu ray), but the marketing is poor and the community is lacking sufficient support (although I've found gamers on the PSN to be overall more pleasant to game with).

100$ more than what for what hard drive? What's free internet? What does blu-ray do except costing 35$ for a stupid movie?

I'm glad I'm not shopping for a console anymore, the misinformation is staggering.

I'm not going to get in a flame war for you, but to stay "subjective" I'll say that having all consoles and a nice lap top, my PS3 was the best buy and most worth the money.

I don't doubt that many people are happy with the PS3 as it is a good system, but I was really asking about the points you brought up.

Depends on how much you make use of your bluray, I have a HD TV in my room, and watching Avatar on Blu-ray was the next best thing behind watching it in 3D.

I'm in a similar boat, I have my gaming laptop, PS3 and Wii, but I only got rid of my 360 because of the fact the games I'd like for 360 are on PC, and as I am inclined to use PC more, didnt make logical sense having the two of them.

As for harddrive space, it's only bigger on PS3 because its made more use out of, can't begin to tell you how many games I needed to install to it to avoid load times.

 

[Thunderhorse31]

The X360 library is in no way superior to the PS3.
And I speak as an owner of all the consoles. I rarely buy anything for my 360 that isn't a shooter or a racer.

I'd say it's a push, both consoles have excellent exclusives as far as I'm concerned, and the multi-platform games are mostly a toss up (though I'd rather play shooters on 360 and fighters on PS3, if only for the controllers).

But anyway, OP seems pretty seriously misinformed.

 

[IamSofaKingRaw]

Just to point out why I disagree, I'll bring up my argument that I put to any PS3 owner that tells me the 360 is crap. You may have to pay for Live, but there's good things about the 360 that can't be measured. Like how I think it feels more friendly in it, and how I feel more part of a community, and I like the videos of people who work for Xbox Live. On the Wii and PS3 I feel isolated and that there isn't much point in me using the internet, as it's usually just some random person to play LittleBigPlanet with, who seems to be mentally disabled. And there is all of 2 people I could play with online amungst my friends. Even the graphics of a PS3 aren't that great for games. They run standardly on 720P and I can make my Xbox do 1080i and I wouldn't be able unless my TV could handle it anyway.

The X360 library is in no way superior to the PS3.
And I speak as an owner of all the consoles. I rarely buy anything for my 360 that isn't a shooter or a racer.

I think that argument just shot itself in the foot. "It's not a great library since I only like 2 of it's genres."

No he said that because thats basically all their exclusives shooters (Halo, Gears) and a racer (Forza)

The PS3 has been doing better than the 360 since the year after its launch(selling more than the 360 every year till now) and the once 10 or so million gap between them and MS has closed to around 3-4. Next year is going to be Sony's biggest year with MANY MANY exclusives comin like..

Spoiler: long list

LittleBigPlanet 2
Killzone 3
Motorstorm: Apocalypse
Ico/Shadow of the Colossus HD Collection
Resistance 3
Uncharted 3: Drake's Deception
Twisted Metal
inFamous 2
Socom 4
Yakuza 4
Ratchet & Clank: All 4 One
MLB 2011: The Show
Disgaea 4
Ar Tonelico 3
Hyperdimension Neptunia
Trinity: Souls of Zill O'll Zero

Final Fantasy Versus XIII (JAPAN)
Yakuza: Of the End (JAPAN)
Tales of Xillia (JAPAN)
Ni no Kuni (JAPAN)


MOVE

Sorcery
Playstation Move Heroes
Ape Escape Fury! Fury!



PSN

Journey
Eufloria
Tokyo Jungle
PixelJunk Shooter 2



MMO

DC Universe Online
The Agency
Final Fantasy XIV

Unless MS pulls something out of their ass I doubt they'll keep second place by the end of the year with only Forza 4 Gears 3 and a bunch of Kinect titles to keep gamers happy

 

[IamSofaKingRaw]

Snip.

MS spent half a billion marketing Kinect I don't think they are going to just let it off to the side. Those exclusives (or former exclusives) were not really that great. the 360 does not have the MGS series, just a spinoff game, I swear GTA games were on the original Xbox, Katamari (wtf is that), and I swear Dead Rising was originally an Xbox exclusive now the second is available on the PS3. The 360 on the otherhand is losing exclusive games, Epic games is probably going to start a new series with the multiplat Bulletstorm, Bungie is gone.....

 

[pulse2]

Just to point out why I disagree, I'll bring up my argument that I put to any PS3 owner that tells me the 360 is crap. You may have to pay for Live, but there's good things about the 360 that can't be measured. Like how I think it feels more friendly in it, and how I feel more part of a community, and I like the videos of people who work for Xbox Live. On the Wii and PS3 I feel isolated and that there isn't much point in me using the internet, as it's usually just some random person to play LittleBigPlanet with, who seems to be mentally disabled. And there is all of 2 people I could play with online amungst my friends. Even the graphics of a PS3 aren't that great for games. They run standardly on 720P and I can make my Xbox do 1080i and I wouldn't be able unless my TV could handle it anyway.

Thats all personal experience, while granted there are some things that PSN lacks, community is not one of them, can't begin to tell you how much of my spare "none gaming but on PS3" time is spent just chatting to random people on Home and making new friends that I end up gaming with. Besides my normal real world PS3 owning friends, I have made quite a few friends online as well.

Everyone experiences something different, there is no guarantee that my experience would be as much fun on XBL as it is on my PS3, heck, if it was as much fun as you make out for everyone, I would never have sold my 360. I can't say I have ever had as negative an experience as say some gamers who have been verbally abused, racially abused etc etc, or gamers who just seem to encounter several annoying preteens.

As for graphics, wait what? Usually they look the same if not slightly different to 360 and the exclusives look beautiful. :/ Don't understand that point.

Epic games is probably going to start a new series with the multiplat Bulletstorm, Bungie is gone.....

They are They are trying to get away from Gears, there is really only so much more Gears can do other than another iteration of big bulky men slicing locusts in half before it starts to become rather dry. After playing Gears 1 and 2, which I loved, can't say I'm particularly excited for 3 :/

 

[StBishop]

It's also likely that other titles could jump off the "Exclusive" bandwagon in the future like FF13 did (I saw the Xbox 360 version while shopping last week. Good grief, it must come on like 3 DVDs).

I don't know about where you live but they came out on the exact same day for both ps3 and 360. I got both. The xbox 360 one is indeed 3 dvd's.

seriously i see PCs going the way of dial up and wired internet....

... I know 2 people who use wireless internet. I know in excess of a thousand people. Wired internet is by no means gone.

Will edit in my opinion of the OP after reading the rest of the replies.

 

[Atmos Duality]

It's also likely that other titles could jump off the "Exclusive" bandwagon in the future like FF13 did (I saw the Xbox 360 version while shopping last week. Good grief, it must come on like 3 DVDs).

I don't know about where you live but they came out on the exact same day for both ps3 and 360. I got both. The xbox 360 one is indeed 3 dvd's.

FF13 started out as a PS3 exclusive, and was marketed as such until a few of months before its release.
Keep in mind; I bore witness to years of hype and intrigue for the game, and every one of them gladly reminded me that it was a PS3 exclusive until Squeenix changed their minds.

 

[pulse2]

It's also likely that other titles could jump off the "Exclusive" bandwagon in the future like FF13 did (I saw the Xbox 360 version while shopping last week. Good grief, it must come on like 3 DVDs).

I don't know about where you live but they came out on the exact same day for both ps3 and 360. I got both. The xbox 360 one is indeed 3 dvd's.

FF13 started out as a PS3 exclusive, and was marketed as such until a few of months before its release.
Keep in mind; I bore witness to years of hype and intrigue for the game, and every one of them gladly reminded me that it was a PS3 exclusive until Squeenix changed their minds.

MGS4 did the same thing...without the porting part, portable ops and ac!d kept reinforcing the fact that it was a PS3 exclusive etc, power of ps3 etc, Snake will dominate on PS3 only etc. It was that that confirmed in my mind Konami would look pretty darn stupid if it went multiplat.

 

[BlindMessiah94]

There is one reason and one reason only I buy a console:

The games.

The console exclusives are always the dealbreaker.

 

[Keepitclean]

So you had a poorly informed conversation with someone and biased it towards your respective opnions to come to the conclusion that microsoft is 'dead'.

ok.

This seems to sum up about 90% of the tone in escapist threads.

This.

I will honestly say I don't know what will happen. All I can tell you is that the companies will follow the money and the ones that don't will fail.

 

[Throwitawaynow]

Everyone I know who has bought a Wii has only used it for rock band/guitar hero and like 2-3 games that were so ridiculously marketed they had to try out but then returned to rock band/guitar hero. I swear they own a console and only play a multi-platform game.

 

[DanDeFool]

I don't think Microsoft is going to have any trouble with the next console generation, since they've already cemented their target demographic and have very good third-party support. The Kinect is definitely a dubious piece of technology, but if MS can get the third-party developers to get behind it, it might have a chance at being a worthwhile addition to the platform.

If I had to pick someone to be worried about, it would be Nintendo, because their third-party support sucks, and has sucked ever since the N64. Granted, their first-party games are usually quite good, but I think we're all starting to get a little tired of Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Smash Bros., Mario Kart, etc.

Now that everyone's got their motion controllers on the market, maybe third-parties will start looking at the Wii more seriously, since the motion-controlling shit has apparently gotten real. Well, maybe the next-gen Wii anyway, since the current Wii is so underpowered that it doesn't really have much long-term potential anymore.

 

[Atmos Duality]

Since when is FF13 a Sony exclusive?


Did we just flip backward in time or something? It's not 2008 anymore. Sony's line-up of exclusives and multiplats are just fine. I'd argue PS3 exclusives are far better than any on 360. But, like your opinion above, is just that, OPINION.

Also, the PS3 has been outselling the 360 pretty consistently since Fall 2009. Not sure what you're on about.

I've already addressed that with another user in this topic. If you cannot be bothered to read arguments already in progress, then do not respond as it wastes both of our time.

 

[icame]

Their definitely not dying but the xbox is definitely the weakest console this gen, at least in terms of exclusives.

 

[Plurralbles]

I can't be fucked with Kinect (which is weird since I own a Wii and love the thing.

lmfao. Your sex and the shape of kinect and the shape of the wiimote and psMove makes this a hilarious sentence.

anyway, I'll continue only PC gaming and ignore this trashtalk.