Maybe they don't want to see the 'great classics' of cinema. I, for one, couldn't care less about watching old films, but that doesn't make me some ignorant youth. I'm just living within my generation, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be scorned for not taking an interest in things that I was either too young to remember or were even around before me.
I think as the world becomes more modern, that is to say as technology advances at its alarming rate, society is moving along quicker than it ever has done. I mean, it was only 1980 that the first GB disk drive was created which was the size of a refridgerator and would set you back $40,000 (around £24,591). Now you could put that in your pocket for, what, £20 or less?
It could be said that society is changing TOO fast, that it's changing too quickly for it's 'skeleton' to adapt, and that at this rate, it will not be long before the whole thing snaps and collapses into a gelatinous blob of depravity.
It's a fair point. I still remember when a computer with an 80GB hard drive was considered top of the line. And I remember when games came on multiple CDs (admittedly, I'd rather do without that last one).
Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to say he/she doesn't have a fair point there. Because it's true really, I think things are becoming old news much quicker. It's like a snowball effect; as technology advances, the advanced technology helps technology advance even quicker. Cosmic.
Its the music trend thats scares me the most, was in the pub the other day and they had an MP3 jukebox type thing which was blaring out some weird shit for at least an hour, so I stepped up after getting annoyed listening to this "boom boom pow" crap for the 6th time (no joke)
So I selected Whole Lotta Love by Led Zeppelin and to my amazement the people who were playing the other tedious excrement didnt have a clue who LZ were!!!!????
Whats that all about? I get where your coming from, the new generation who think that Will Smith started out in movies and then may have diddled in a bit of rap later on, *sigh*
This is what I'm wondering, what are today's youth going to say to their grandchildren about their music?
"You kids with your techno/glam/Christian gangsta rap! Back in my day, we listened to good wholesome music. Like Lil Wayne! And Soulja Boy! I'm gonna do the Soulja Boy dance right now! *Breaks hip as children laugh*"
Maybe they don't want to see the 'great classics' of cinema. I, for one, couldn't care less about watching old films, but that doesn't make me some ignorant youth. I'm just living within my generation, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be scorned for not taking an interest in things that I was either too young to remember or were even around before me.
I think as the world becomes more modern, that is to say as technology advances at its alarming rate, society is moving along quicker than it ever has done. I mean, it was only 1980 that the first GB disk drive was created which was the size of a refridgerator and would set you back $40,000 (around £24,591). Now you could put that in your pocket for, what, £20 or less?
It could be said that society is changing TOO fast, that it's changing too quickly for it's 'skeleton' to adapt, and that at this rate, it will not be long before the whole thing snaps and collapses into a gelatinous blob of depravity.
It's a fair point. I still remember when a computer with an 80GB hard drive was considered top of the line. And I remember when games came on multiple CDs (admittedly, I'd rather do without that last one).
Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to say he/she doesn't have a fair point there. Because it's true really, I think things are becoming old news much quicker. It's like a snowball effect; as technology advances, the advanced technology helps technology advance even quicker. Cosmic.
Yeah. However, the hardware advances are getting slowed down due to software incompatibility. Sure, we have quad-core 64-bit processors. But does anything make full use of them?
Even without that, though, things are changing fast. Digital distribution has suddenly appeared, and people make money by selling things that only exist in games.
I just try to keep up. So far, I'm doing alright, computer-wise. With regards to music, I'm none too fond of this new kind of R'n'B, or much rap, or ANY pop; I can take or leave TV (though there are some good shows on now); and movies are frankly depressing most of the time (though District 9 looks bloody fantastic).
Maybe they don't want to see the 'great classics' of cinema. I, for one, couldn't care less about watching old films, but that doesn't make me some ignorant youth. I'm just living within my generation, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be scorned for not taking an interest in things that I was either too young to remember or were even around before me.
I think as the world becomes more modern, that is to say as technology advances at its alarming rate, society is moving along quicker than it ever has done. I mean, it was only 1980 that the first GB disk drive was created which was the size of a refridgerator and would set you back $40,000 (around £24,591). Now you could put that in your pocket for, what, £20 or less?
It could be said that society is changing TOO fast, that it's changing too quickly for it's 'skeleton' to adapt, and that at this rate, it will not be long before the whole thing snaps and collapses into a gelatinous blob of depravity.
It's a fair point. I still remember when a computer with an 80GB hard drive was considered top of the line. And I remember when games came on multiple CDs (admittedly, I'd rather do without that last one).
Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to say he/she doesn't have a fair point there. Because it's true really, I think things are becoming old news much quicker. It's like a snowball effect; as technology advances, the advanced technology helps technology advance even quicker. Cosmic.
Yeah. However, the hardware advances are getting slowed down due to software incompatibility. Sure, we have quad-core 64-bit processors. But does anything make full use of them?
Even without that, though, things are changing fast. Digital distribution has suddenly appeared, and people make money by selling things that only exist in games.
I just try to keep up. So far, I'm doing alright, computer-wise. With regards to music, I'm none too fond of this new kind of R'n'B, or much rap, or ANY pop; I can take or leave TV (though there are some good shows on now); and movies are frankly depressing most of the time (though District 9 looks bloody fantastic).
YES. Sorry to look like I've ignored the rest of your post but that last sentence is like you took it straight from my mind. I really want to see that District 9 film, since I've just grown to expect mostly crap from the film industry. But yes, it seems like hardware really is leaving software in its dust a bit, and frankly digital distribution scares me a little bit, because I just know feel that it's going to be taken too far at some point.
O.K So *some of* you guys are *sort of* hating because *the majority of* teenagers nowadays dont use the older versions of technology which were A: Less reliable B: Less Diverse and C: Less Effective. Now tell me, do you use your Dial-Up LAN connections now, or do you use broadband? Do you have a mobile phone (cell phone for americans) or do you stick it out with just a landline. And if you do have a mobile phone then is it that one of those massive old bricks from way back when or is it a lightweight flashy phone with a light up screen, does it beep or does it play music at the touch of a button? Jeesus, do you play videogames from the 90's or 2009. Honestly. Stop putting me down for being 14! And yes, I have watched loads of older movies. Airplane is epic. Mars Attacks was just plain amazing. The Godfather was meh... But my point stands: Please dont put *the majority* of us down for not knowing of this stuff... and I dont find it pedo ish if ya talk to me XD I know plenty of 20+ year olds and most of them are far less prone to violence than teens.
Maybe they don't want to see the 'great classics' of cinema. I, for one, couldn't care less about watching old films, but that doesn't make me some ignorant youth. I'm just living within my generation, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be scorned for not taking an interest in things that I was either too young to remember or were even around before me.
I think as the world becomes more modern, that is to say as technology advances at its alarming rate, society is moving along quicker than it ever has done. I mean, it was only 1980 that the first GB disk drive was created which was the size of a refridgerator and would set you back $40,000 (around £24,591). Now you could put that in your pocket for, what, £20 or less?
It could be said that society is changing TOO fast, that it's changing too quickly for it's 'skeleton' to adapt, and that at this rate, it will not be long before the whole thing snaps and collapses into a gelatinous blob of depravity.
It's a fair point. I still remember when a computer with an 80GB hard drive was considered top of the line. And I remember when games came on multiple CDs (admittedly, I'd rather do without that last one).
Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to say he/she doesn't have a fair point there. Because it's true really, I think things are becoming old news much quicker. It's like a snowball effect; as technology advances, the advanced technology helps technology advance even quicker. Cosmic.
Yeah. However, the hardware advances are getting slowed down due to software incompatibility. Sure, we have quad-core 64-bit processors. But does anything make full use of them?
Even without that, though, things are changing fast. Digital distribution has suddenly appeared, and people make money by selling things that only exist in games.
I just try to keep up. So far, I'm doing alright, computer-wise. With regards to music, I'm none too fond of this new kind of R'n'B, or much rap, or ANY pop; I can take or leave TV (though there are some good shows on now); and movies are frankly depressing most of the time (though District 9 looks bloody fantastic).
YES. Sorry to look like I've ignored the rest of your post but that last sentence is like you took it straight from my mind. I really want to see that District 9 film, since I've just grown to expect mostly crap from the film industry. But yes, it seems like hardware really is leaving software in its dust a bit, and frankly digital distribution scares me a little bit, because I just know feel that it's going to be taken too far at some point.
On-topic again, taking digital distribution too far? Howso? It's a great way to get games to people in countries with very few games stores. It also means (when the developers realise it) that the games can be sold for less, meaning more people will buy them. As well as that, it means that, in theory, the game can be published for a bloody long time. With many older games, they've gone out of production, and thus copies are hard to come by and, when they are came by (come by?) they're expensive. A prime example being Planescape Torment.
Unfortunately, it also leads to people using an online copy protection system, which requires you to be online to play (hello, Activision-Blizzard, EA), which means that they can't be played on the move, which is feasible when you think about how powerful modern gaming laptops are.
PatrickXD said:
O.K So *some of* you guys are *sort of* hating because *the majority of* teenagers nowadays dont use the older versions of technology which were A: Less reliable B: Less Diverse and C: Less Effective. Now tell me, do you use your Dial-Up LAN connections now, or do you use broadband? Do you have a mobile phone (cell phone for americans) or do you stick it out with just a landline. And if you do have a mobile phone then is it that one of those massive old bricks from way back when or is it a lightweight flashy phone with a light up screen, does it beep or does it play music at the touch of a button? Jeesus, do you play videogames from the 90's or 2009. Honestly. Stop putting me down for being 14! And yes, I have watched loads of older movies. Airplane is epic. Mars Attacks was just plain amazing. The Godfather was meh... But my point stands: Please dont put *the majority* of us down for not knowing of this stuff... and I dont find it pedo ish if ya talk to me XD I know plenty of 20+ year olds and most of them are far less prone to violence than teens.
You yourself are making generalisations. With regards to hardware, I'm firmly behind progress (I'm a computer science student, how could I not be?). With regards everything else, it's mostly, in my opinion, nostalgia coupled with unhappiness that the teens of today haven't watched the awesome stuff we did when we were teens ourselves. Not really a condemnation. Just sadness.
Their is nothing funnier than seeing a old man in his mid 40's trying to play grand theft auto on the 360, not to mention hes trying to go through the game killing the least amount of people as possible. However he does fine on computer games and part of Yahtzee's Fear 2 review insulted me, my dad is not hairy (and did play the original Fear).
With regards everything else, it's mostly, in my opinion, nostalgia coupled with unhappiness that the teens of today haven't watched the awesome stuff we did when we were teens ourselves. Not really a condemnation. Just sadness.
I, for one, am quite sad, that my parents didn't show me the world they grew up in when I was a kid. I saw photos of my dad in a leather jacket, long hair, jeans and with a peace button in his shirt. I saw pictures of my parents on a huge rock festival (much like Woodstock, only in Hungary). I saw pictures of my mother in a yellow mini-skirt (by mini, I mean virtually non-existent) dancing to Beatles at a party. But they left me to my own devices when growing up, and only a good decade later did I get to know old-school rock music, cinema and the lifestyle of the rebellious 70's and 80's.
It's important to know where all this modern stuff originates from, be it music, technology, games or whatever. Being ignorant and living only in the 'now' is like spitting on the generation that carved out the lifestyle your are living now.
Maybe they don't want to see the 'great classics' of cinema. I, for one, couldn't care less about watching old films, but that doesn't make me some ignorant youth. I'm just living within my generation, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be scorned for not taking an interest in things that I was either too young to remember or were even around before me.
I think as the world becomes more modern, that is to say as technology advances at its alarming rate, society is moving along quicker than it ever has done. I mean, it was only 1980 that the first GB disk drive was created which was the size of a refridgerator and would set you back $40,000 (around £24,591). Now you could put that in your pocket for, what, £20 or less?
It could be said that society is changing TOO fast, that it's changing too quickly for it's 'skeleton' to adapt, and that at this rate, it will not be long before the whole thing snaps and collapses into a gelatinous blob of depravity.
It's a fair point. I still remember when a computer with an 80GB hard drive was considered top of the line. And I remember when games came on multiple CDs (admittedly, I'd rather do without that last one).
Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to say he/she doesn't have a fair point there. Because it's true really, I think things are becoming old news much quicker. It's like a snowball effect; as technology advances, the advanced technology helps technology advance even quicker. Cosmic.
Yeah. However, the hardware advances are getting slowed down due to software incompatibility. Sure, we have quad-core 64-bit processors. But does anything make full use of them?
Even without that, though, things are changing fast. Digital distribution has suddenly appeared, and people make money by selling things that only exist in games.
I just try to keep up. So far, I'm doing alright, computer-wise. With regards to music, I'm none too fond of this new kind of R'n'B, or much rap, or ANY pop; I can take or leave TV (though there are some good shows on now); and movies are frankly depressing most of the time (though District 9 looks bloody fantastic).
YES. Sorry to look like I've ignored the rest of your post but that last sentence is like you took it straight from my mind. I really want to see that District 9 film, since I've just grown to expect mostly crap from the film industry. But yes, it seems like hardware really is leaving software in its dust a bit, and frankly digital distribution scares me a little bit, because I just know feel that it's going to be taken too far at some point.
On-topic again, taking digital distribution too far? Howso? It's a great way to get games to people in countries with very few games stores. It also means (when the developers realise it) that the games can be sold for less, meaning more people will buy them. As well as that, it means that, in theory, the game can be published for a bloody long time. With many older games, they've gone out of production, and thus copies are hard to come by and, when they are came by (come by?) they're expensive. A prime example being Planescape Torment.
Unfortunately, it also leads to people using an online copy protection system, which requires you to be online to play (hello, Activision-Blizzard, EA), which means that they can't be played on the move, which is feasible when you think about how powerful modern gaming laptops are.
Ohhh. Yes, sorry, digital distribution of that sort is a very good thing. I was thinking more along the lines of the extortionate kind, most recently in Sims 3, wherein a lot of objects had to be bought with actual money before you could get them in-game. I just can't help but wonder if we'll see more of that kind of digital distributing. And yeah, the online copy protection systems can be a real pain in the ass, particularly, as you say, with laptops.
Can't argue with that sentiment! Personally, I'm not bitter about them not knowing the old cartoons, movies, etc. We were like that too once. What I'm bitter about is the lack of inter-personal skills exhibited by people, [sup]he says, typing anonymously on the internet[/sup]. I work at a University, and every day I'll be talking to students, and invariably, I'll ask them to at least take out BOTH earbuds while we have a conversation. At lunch today, I saw three students all sitting together, and not one of them were talking to each other. They came in together, sat down togethewr, and immediately started paying attention to their phones while listening to their Ipods. Just one of those things that make me go "huh". One of my favorite things is bsing at the pub with my friends, and these guys couldn't care less. Although I have to admit, if one more person comes into my kitchen while I'm listening to punk and asks me if I'm listening to the oldies station, I might snap.
I'm 20(going on 21)but those who are older shouldn't really look down on the younger generation(abit like what alot of older people in this thread are doing)otherwise you're just doing what your parents did to you, look down on you because they remember their days but you have your PS3s and Xboxes and Blu-Ray. All I'm saying really is don't be hypocritical, appreciate that you watched "the greatest movie of all time" fair enough, but you don't need to force the younger generation to watch them nor look down on or berate them for not having watched, read, etc something that was before their time.
dibblywibbles said:
it's funny to read these posts about us being bitter of the new breed. are we so helplessly out of touch that we're becoming our parents? yes the 90's we're cool, the 80's were...well they had sick cartoons and punk bands. just because the youth of today couldn't care less about what we think is cool, we shouldn't be upset about it. if I didn't have a sister that was ten years older than me, I probably would've felt the same about them and would've never listened to the dead kennedys or black flag. I think we can all agree getting old sucks but I refuse to be a curmudgeonly old man until I'm at least 35. the only problem I have is with texting. texting is stupid and counterproductive, pick up your phone and talk dammit!
"Does he look like a *****?"I'm only a teen but i have to say that i'm glad my brother pestered me to watch pulp fiction.I watch old classics every now and then and that's one of my favs
"Does he look like a *****?"I'm only a teen but i have to say that i'm glad my brother pestered me to watch pulp fiction.I watch old classics every now and then and that's one of my favs
I'm afraid the most for films. People in my age group will most likely have no idea what I'm talking about if I make a reference to something like Taxi Driver, The Godfather or even Pulp Fiction. Sadly, I am part of a generation ignorant of it's past that considers stuff like Epic Movie to be a cinema classic.
Unfortunately, this. There were a few people I'd talk to in my grade and the grade above me who knew what I was saying if I were to quote Godfather, and my Law teacher had the class watch The Shawshank Redemption, but most people at my old high school were/are completely ignorant to some of cinemas greatest films.
Maybe they don't want to see the 'great classics' of cinema. I, for one, couldn't care less about watching old films, but that doesn't make me some ignorant youth. I'm just living within my generation, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be scorned for not taking an interest in things that I was either too young to remember or were even around before me.
I think as the world becomes more modern, that is to say as technology advances at its alarming rate, society is moving along quicker than it ever has done. I mean, it was only 1980 that the first GB disk drive was created which was the size of a refridgerator and would set you back $40,000 (around £24,591). Now you could put that in your pocket for, what, £20 or less?
It could be said that society is changing TOO fast, that it's changing too quickly for it's 'skeleton' to adapt, and that at this rate, it will not be long before the whole thing snaps and collapses into a gelatinous blob of depravity.
Of course growing old is sad. You're freakin' dying. How is that happy?
However simply being alive and experiencing stuff is fun.
But, on topic, what? There is always something you have in common with someone. Just stay on that topic until you're both bored to death, then hey, something else in common!
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