I have been forced to pirate, and it makes me very angry

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Lucem712

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I know the feeling, though it was (mostly) my fault for not doing research on it. I downloaded a game from Amazon, but apparently Amazon Downloader doesn't play nice with WINE. I wish Amazon would give an option to just download it direct, (Like GOG)
 

Tony2077

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Owyn_Merrilin said:
OP, are you sure it's the DRM that's doing this? Usually if you need XP mode to get something to work, it's because it's a 16 bit program. If the game or the installer is 16 bit, downloading a pirated version won't help. However, if it is the installer, you might be able to find a fanmade installer to get around the problem. What I'm asking here is, what game is it? Because it doesn't sound like a DRM problem.

Edit: Derp, you said the title in the OP. Give me a minute to look the problem up.

Edit Edit: Okay, I looked it up. It is the DRM, but you don't need to download a full blown pirated version; what you need is the patches the pirates use to get around the DRM. These are distributed separately even if you torrent the thing, and they'll work with a legit copy, so there's no need to fire up bit torrent. Just look up the appropriate cracks, download, and enjoy. Since you paid for the darned thing, I don't see why the mods would have an issue with me telling you to do that.
i looked it up too one says its a windows 7 crack its funny you need a crack to play it when you own it since the drm is retarded because it doesn't work with the compatibility stuff. i tired it myself got the same error using all the xp and before modes.
here's the kicker its a known issue
 

Tony2077

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Very strange. I run Chaos Theory on my Windows 7 Desktop and Laptop with no problems.
where did you get it because i installed it from the disc and even tried patching it. maybe there is a simple solution i didn't see inside this box
 

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Ehh... your unlikely to get a virus from something that is well seeded simply because peers won't seed if they know the copy is bad. Any way I don't see what you feel so bad about you we're licensed a copy of chaos theory, one you probably can't return, it didn't work because publishers get butt hurt and add anti-piracy measures that don't work [CnC4's always online protection was cracked in less that 24 hours], so you did the logical thing and got your monies worth. Be chill and enjoy your game.

[Mods - Please note that knowing how piracy works does not equal agreeing with it nor an admission of guilt]
 

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Try living in a first world country and then have over half the movies/tv shows/games made not even be released here. Then try to legitimately buy them from overseas to have the companies say "sorry, we don't ship to Australia" and have no way to get a legitimate copy, THEN tell me piracy is evil.
 

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spikeyjoey said:
ons..

So Im left with no option but to torrent a game I goddamn payed for - exposing myself to virus' and such, and I am really not happy about it.. It is ignorance of the highest order on behalf of Ubisoft
Moral of the story: Don't buy Ubisoft games.
 

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spikeyjoey said:
SO i purchased a legitimate, new, copy of Chaos theory from amazon.. it arrived today, but wont run on windows 7.... the easy option (right click compatibility mode) didnt work.. I was told to run the game in XP mode, but windows wont let me download that because my windows isnt fancy and needlessly expensive enough.... I researched this for about 20 minutes.. there are multiple results but no proper solutions..

So Im left with no option but to torrent a game I goddamn payed for - exposing myself to virus' and such, and I am really not happy about it.. It is ignorance of the highest order on behalf of Ubisoft

Apparantly it has something to do with the programme "Starfox", which is an anti piracy programme.......

Punishing legitimate consumers is not the way forward, and it has driven me into a Jimquisition style rage...
It sucks that you've had to torrent a version that worked, but I wouldn't say you've pirated it; you're playing the game after paying the amount it cost.
 

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On a related note:

Q) Where can you legally download a copy of Jade Empire SE for the PC that you bought from Bioware's online store?

A) You cannot.
 
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DigitalAtlas said:
Jynthor said:
You will most certainly burn in hell for all eternity now. Piracy is evil.
Aw, cute. You think the situation is black and white.
I think jynthor was being sarcastic..Could be wrong, but I tend to detect sarcasm better than your average bear.

however, lastgreatblasphemer (irony on your name there buddy) being the lawful paragon is clearly not.
 

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LastGreatBlasphemer said:
And believe it or not, used sales do hurt the company. Video games cost a lot of money. A shit ton, we're not far off from half a billion being a normal gaming budget. And that is a hard number to get back.
To comment on that completely detached from the subject of piracy, I'll bet one of my extremities that if someone used a poor financial situation as an excuse for piracy you'd go "Maybe you should have been wiser in spending your money then" on them.

I just don't see why I have to see the astronomical costs of the AAA game production as granted. I also don't see why those amounts shouldn't be brought into question - and if they should be, they never are, it's always just "Yeeeeeah, games are expensive to make." That's not true by default, which the indie scene is a testament to. So okay, "Yeeeeeah, AAA games are expensive to make."

Well, the production costs are only as high as the studios want them to be. Maybe it's not a bright idea to toss half a billion into the production with the thought "Yeah, we'll just squeeze it back out of the gamers later. Somehow."

And as I said. This is unrelated to piracy; simply saying that it's not my fault or yours that studios spend so much on production. Okay, I know for sure it's not mine, but I am going to be blaming the public for this one a bit, however. *those blasted shiny pixel and polygon count obsessed whippersnappers...*
 

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LastGreatBlasphemer said:
DigitalAtlas said:
Aw, cute. You think the situation is black and white.
It is actually. The only problem is the black and white is not where people think they are.
It is inherently wrong to have access to a product that is being charged for and refusing to pay for it. That's the black.
Bad business practices are constantly in place to make it harder and harder for legitimate consumers to enjoy the product, while the pirates get a better product. That's the white.

"I got it because there was no demo. I may buy it later."
Demo discs used to cost money/a paid magazine subscription to get. In the digital world, yeah, a demo should be released, but that's not always in the cards. It takes another team to build a demo. That can set the development back a long time. Show me your receipt or shut up.

"The corporations are evil and trying to stamp out used sales. FREE MARKET MAN!"
Free market is what created these horrible business practices.
And believe it or not, used sales do hurt the company. Video games cost a lot of money. A shit ton, we're not far off from half a billion being a normal gaming budget. And that is a hard number to get back. Video games have always relied on longevity of sales. Games have always run on a sale of around 9 months. After 9 months have passed, it's safe to assume anyone who wants the game got it. But now, with used games, that time has been cut into a third, and a huge portion of those sales, are used. Meaning: here companies usually saw their revenue to start their next project, but now a huge portion of it is going to someone else entirely, and they're not seeing a cent.
Games are expensive to make these days, used sales DO cut into those profits, and for a game company to remain floating they have to make more then they spent on the product. Now that's becoming increasingly harder.
Yeah, I borrowed and bought old games from friends when they were done, but that was in the nineties and early two-thousands. Now you can't walk a block without finding two GameStops. Used games sales are everywhere. And they are hurting the company.
Yeah, I don't always have 60 bucks to throw down, yeah, I buy from GameStop. Yeah, it sucks that I'm not supporting the developer, but I'm not always able to. On the other hand, I tend to abuse GameStop's used return policy to cycle many games over the course of a month, they don't get real money from me either.

"The game is not available in my country/region locking."
So? Level 20 Japanese Curry mix isn't available in my country, is it okay to steal it from somewhere?
It's called a luxury because if you can get to it, and afford it, and you don't need it, it's not going to hurt you to buy it, and it won't hurt to do with out. Not having the game has not hurt you in any way. Yeah it's shitty that it's not in your area, but buy a legal cracking hardware device (there are no laws against them, and being you are modifying hardware that you legally purchased, you can't be taken to court), and import a copy. That's legal and actually helps the developers. It tells them you want it, and are willing to risk the manufacturers coming after you to support them.
Or, you know, Dark Souls is coming to PC. Petitions can work.

Piracy issues are in fact black and white, nobody wants to admit it because they refuse to accept being told no, and corporations refuse to support the people who support them.
We've done far too much for the gaming industry for them to treat us this way, but piracy is NEVER justified. Ever. Thinking otherwise is immature and shows entitlement issues. Just about anything can be obtained and fixed legally, there is no reason for piracy in this day and age. On D3's first day out, most people in my area couldn't log on, save for three guys I knew who had no interest in multiplayer and had a feedback loop programmed into their computer that mimicked a Blizzard server. There's nothing illegal about that.
First, let's say a homeless man was gifted by the gods a laptop that worked. He went to a coffee shop every day and used their wi-fi. With that wi-fi, he pirated some games to escape his terrible life while searching for a job, food, etc. Would you deny him access? Call him wrong? Or, as a developer, just be happy he's playing your game as his only life comfort?(this is a true story, promise)

What about people who don't get games in their region? Their only choice is importing a used copy and that doesn't give the company any money at all. Plus, the system is completely region locked. Is it wrong?

Hell, what about just being short on funds and you don't have the ability to choose between rent, food, and owning a video game? Should that person be denied entertainment value in their life?

Heck, the biggest case: It's the game's launch day and all my friends have everything given to them on a silver platter, so they have the game. I want to be social and play with them, but there's no split-screen option available at all. I want the game, plan on buying it when I have funds (and will), but just can't do it now. Is it wrong to give myself some early access so I don't fall out of the social loop? Heck, it even prevents the constant inner stress from not being from a family with any disposable income (The Simpson's episode titled "Homer's Enemy" covers this rather well).

Let me make this 100% clear: I'm only responding to let you know I didn't give enough of a crap to read your post and that you're wrong. End of story. It's a subjective issue that only becomes morally black and white once you put disposable income and comfortable lifestyles into the equation. Piracy isn't evil. If I were a developer I'd just be happy people like that were still playing my game. Embrace piracy. Just be responsible about it; if you like a product, buy it. Even Notch gave people permission to pirate Minecraft and told them to buy it later if they liked it.