I have had it with Valve
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I thought the Source engine had aged really well in Half-Life 2 when I played it, actually. And besides, they're supposed to be working on a new engine now (GoldSrc or something OK, I get it, GoldSrc was the original Half-Life engine, you don't need to keep telling me).
You I can say a lot of things about Valve (or more specifically, their games... well, alright, just HL2), but calling them lazy is a bit of a stretch. They've got 3.5 different IPs going at once (Portal being in the same universe as Half-Life) - and their release schedule is quite good, to be honest. Half-Life 3 (it is probably a full game, rather than an episode by now) has only taken 3 years so far. That's honestly not long at all, Duke Nukem Forever took literally 4 times that long. And in the meantime (and beforehand), they've released other games frequently, and are soon going to release another (Portal 2). Valve work hard for their fans, to me it sounds like you're just being ungrateful.
Dont fix what isn't broke... the source engine is divine power in computer format. so a new engine would make many fanboys said.
The TF2 updates are free and it shows that developers do care about players (heard that Ubisoft?).
The only line in your post I agree with is that it is time for a new game in the half life series.
The TF2 updates are free and it shows that developers do care about players (heard that Ubisoft?).
The only line in your post I agree with is that it is time for a new game in the half life series.
I still think Valve is one of my favorite developers. The only thing from Valve I haven't liked was Counter Strike. Other than that all of their stuff is gold and as long as they keep making the games to the same high standard they can release whatever they want, whenever they want.
This really has nothing to do with the topic, but seriously WHAT THE FUCK is up with people's obsession with bacon?Istanbul said:
I have an idea, let's complain about it more! That will surely make the game come out faster >.>
People like you are more annoying than the fact that Episode 3 isn't out.
They're still making games. I'm happy with them.
People like you are more annoying than the fact that Episode 3 isn't out.
They're still making games. I'm happy with them.
Hey guys, this company, on whose products I've spent a fair deal of money for a greater amount of enjoyment with numerous franchises which have coloured my formative years and led me to more of the same enjoyment, didn't continue to spoonfeed me constantly!
This is an outrage! They're trying to please someone other than me: this is tantamount to adultery! How dare they make other things that other people like and remain enigmatic about upcoming releases to prevent false hopes! How dare they!
OT: If Half Life was as unfulfilling as you claim ("There should have been no "episodes" in the first place for HL2, and they should have all come out in the same year considering around five minutes were put into each section."), then you wouldn't give a rat's ass about the time taken to release Episode Three.
Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
This is an outrage! They're trying to please someone other than me: this is tantamount to adultery! How dare they make other things that other people like and remain enigmatic about upcoming releases to prevent false hopes! How dare they!
OT: If Half Life was as unfulfilling as you claim ("There should have been no "episodes" in the first place for HL2, and they should have all come out in the same year considering around five minutes were put into each section."), then you wouldn't give a rat's ass about the time taken to release Episode Three.
Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
It was the best looking engine out there when Half life 2 was released, but as much of a fan as I am, I do think it's starting to look a bit dated now. L4D 2 was one ugly ass game.Hiphophippo said:
To answer your statements;Krylock said:
1. Two years ago. As in, very recently.
2. Portal was a critically acclaimed game, and now they're making a sequel to it. Not only that, but it has co-op and is said to be significantly bigger. What's the problem with that exactly?
3. But they keep updating the engine on a regular basis. The Source engine now and the Source engine from 10 years ago are almost completely different.
4. I'll give you that one. It's time they released Episode 3.
5. Both episodes combined are about 8 hours in length, not 10 minutes. And making the episodes works a hell of a lot better than a sequel. It's shorter, it costs less but the quality is still high.
6. They're not really lazy, considering how they've personally developed 10 games (or there about) over 14 years. As well as an amazing game engine. Also, these are Gamecube graphics;
And these are Source engine graphics;
Any questions?
You're greatly underestimating the risks and complications involved in making a new engine/IP. You're also overlooking the significant amount of support Valve has and still is giving to it's community.
I can understand being annoyed by the apparent disregard for the Half Life series, I too would much rather hear news on that front than any other Valve sequel, but your arguments are fairly baseless.
As far as big developers go, Valve is among the best. Condemning them because they haven't released the game you want yet is not a great reason.
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I can understand being annoyed by the apparent disregard for the Half Life series, I too would much rather hear news on that front than any other Valve sequel, but your arguments are fairly baseless.
As far as big developers go, Valve is among the best. Condemning them because they haven't released the game you want yet is not a great reason.
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If he's not, I am!Swny Nerdgasm said:
Personally, I couldn't disagree more with this statement here but it's not worth arguing about.Glademaster said:
@OP
Anything I say would be reiterating what everyone else has responded with, but Valve truly is one of my favorite companies. Sure, the Source engine is showing its age but it still runs like a dream and it gets the job done. I'm hard-pressed to complain about that.
On top of that, I have never seen them release a bad or buggy game, ever. That's an astonishing achievement in its own right. They can take all the time they want.
At least when they do get round to releasing games their of a good standard. Way too often now games are released that are either really boring and a clone of something else or are too buggy to play. So what would you prefer, an unplayable buggy crap game or the usual valve quality even though it takes half a century to get to us?