Really? I thought the order was rapture of the righteous, followed by some sort of cosmic dude being pissy and the dead rising from their graves, followed by a grand judgement day.Souplex said:Actually it's just the judgement day apparently.
Rapture comes later.
Judgment day is when they judge who is righteous so they can be raptured. Basically you just need to behave yourself today.thethingthatlurks said:Really? I thought the order was rapture of the righteous, followed by some sort of cosmic dude being pissy and the dead rising from their graves, followed by a grand judgement day.Souplex said:Actually it's just the judgement day apparently.
Rapture comes later.
Ah, gotcha. Thanks, I learned something todaySouplex said:Judgment day is when they judge who is righteous so they can be raptured. Basically you just need to behave yourself today.thethingthatlurks said:Really? I thought the order was rapture of the righteous, followed by some sort of cosmic dude being pissy and the dead rising from their graves, followed by a grand judgement day.Souplex said:Actually it's just the judgement day apparently.
Rapture comes later.
im doing emergency planning and disaster management at uni. im fucking set!! lol im rubbing my hands with glee, getting a job shouldn't be that hard should it ;-)thethingthatlurks said:Oh dear, it would appear I am still on terra firma post rapture, which means I (and incidentally all of you who are still here) will have to suffer through the end of the world. So, fellow doomed escapists, what shall I do 'till the arrival of those four horsemen? Rape? Arson? Looting? Murdering my asshole neighbor? Praying for forgiveness?
On a slightly more serious note: let us suppose there actually was a rapture (copious amounts of peyote help with the suspension of disbelief), and all of us still on earth are doomed. What would we do? I mean as a civilization, given that only a small number of people are supposed to be "saved." Apparently there are supposed to be natural disasters, so would it be in our interest to avert as much suffering as possible, or give in to our most animalistic instincts and loot? Prepare for retaliation against whatever cosmic force wants to obliterate all there is, or ask it for mercy? Yes, this is a serious question. What should humanity do to avert its own extinction? We do have a fairly strong self-preservation instinct after all.
PS: no, I of course do not believe in such ludicrous fairy tales like the apocalypse (which incidentally only means "prophecy" or "revelation," not "destruction of the world"). Besides, the stars are not even properly aligned to allow the Old Ones to return...
Dude, the lines in Wal-mart are long enough for a refund... you think I'm going to wait for the minister of the afterlife to respond to me with the billions of others waiting on a refund who got there first?steeple said:well do what I do: demand a refund!Byere said:If this is the afterlife, I've extremely disappointed.Dulcinea said:The end of the world already happened.
This is Heaven.
Well, go you! At least somebody is actively thinking about the prospect of Old Ones invasion, and how it could be averted.HotFezz8 said:im doing emergency planning and disaster management at uni. im fucking set!! lol im rubbing my hands with glee, getting a job shouldn't be that hard should it ;-)thethingthatlurks said:Oh dear, it would appear I am still on terra firma post rapture, which means I (and incidentally all of you who are still here) will have to suffer through the end of the world. So, fellow doomed escapists, what shall I do 'till the arrival of those four horsemen? Rape? Arson? Looting? Murdering my asshole neighbor? Praying for forgiveness?
On a slightly more serious note: let us suppose there actually was a rapture (copious amounts of peyote help with the suspension of disbelief), and all of us still on earth are doomed. What would we do? I mean as a civilization, given that only a small number of people are supposed to be "saved." Apparently there are supposed to be natural disasters, so would it be in our interest to avert as much suffering as possible, or give in to our most animalistic instincts and loot? Prepare for retaliation against whatever cosmic force wants to obliterate all there is, or ask it for mercy? Yes, this is a serious question. What should humanity do to avert its own extinction? We do have a fairly strong self-preservation instinct after all.
PS: no, I of course do not believe in such ludicrous fairy tales like the apocalypse (which incidentally only means "prophecy" or "revelation," not "destruction of the world"). Besides, the stars are not even properly aligned to allow the Old Ones to return...
On the other hand, everyone who was right isn't here, which'd be awkward. Presumably we'd all turn to Satan...we'd be right about the nature of things, but picked the other side.madster11 said:This too.thaluikhain said:Well, depends what you mean by "doomed". If large chunks of the population were to be lifted off the Earth, that'd cause quite an upset...but, IIRC, the amount of people who will get into heaven from all across the world is less than a good sized disaster would kill in a local area anyways.
If anything, losing all the people who are 'saved' would greatly help our current population problem (that is, we're almost at the limit of what the earth can support comfortably), and likely cause less wars because if it DID happen, it would be pretty bloody obvious what religion is the correct one.
No, we don't. Presumably the technology could be developed if there was a pressing need for it, but currently relatively little work has been done on that particular problem. The technology needed merely to sustain a minimum sized colony of, say 200 people on the journey there is currently beyond human science, let along having them be totally self sufficient.madster11 said:We do have the technology to live on places such as Mars without too much problem, the difference is that it will cost a LOT of money and there's currently no reason to.
madster11 said:This too.thaluikhain said:Well, depends what you mean by "doomed". If large chunks of the population were to be lifted off the Earth, that'd cause quite an upset...but, IIRC, the amount of people who will get into heaven from all across the world is less than a good sized disaster would kill in a local area anyways.
If anything, losing all the people who are 'saved' would greatly help our current population problem (that is, we're almost at the limit of what the earth can support comfortably), and likely cause less wars because if it DID happen, it would be pretty bloody obvious what religion is the correct one.
Firstly, there aren't any 250 megaton devices, the largest ever constructed was a mere 100 megatons (though, the yield was reduced during testing for safety reasons). But, assuming you got hold of such a device, it's still only about half the power of the earthquake to have hit Japan earlier this year.thaluikhain said:We can also destroy a planet without as much difficulty as you'd expect and hope, do you know how much damage a, say, 250 megaton nuclear weapon would do if it was placed roughly 1km below the surface?
Which would be somewhat less than the earthquake in 1960. Admittedly, you'd set them off in different places, rather than inefficiently lumping them all together in one spot. Also, Pluto happens to be composed of things that are gases at room temperature, the effects of heat would be much more impressive (though this begs the question of how you land there in the first place...rockets used to slow your descent will bore through the plant and leave you surrounded by very cold gases, rather than nicely insulating vacuum).madster11 said:Now imagine 8x 300 megaton (roughly 1/2 the nuclear arsenal of Earth) of them placed 3km below the surface of, say, Pluto (**** you it's a planet).
Well...if you are playing fast and loose with the word "destroyed", yeah.madster11 said:We currently have the technology to do that, and it would damage the planet so badly it could be called 'destroyed'.
Well...all the most important cities would be devastated (not destroyed, mind, and more of a long term danger due to plague then radiation, as I understand it), but those are fairly few and far between.thethingthatlurks said:You're right, there's a good chance some humans would survive an all-out nuclear war, but civilization would still be in ruins. The infrastructure, and all major cities would be destroyed, hence few places would be left hospitable for human life.
Your right, though, it's the loss of infrastructure that's the real killer, but there are plenty of undeveloped regions in the world that would be almost totally unaffected, and even in the nations that contains all the primary targets there will be survivors. Give it a few centuries, and it'll be like the war never happened.
Well, ish. It also takes things as being as they were written in the bronze age as being true, not what we think is impressive today.Ulvai said:Did anyone read "Salvation War" ? It has basically this premise. People left behind decided to fight Legions Of Hell, and won. Then, they looked up...