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Zen Toombs

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Bvenged said:
Paragon:
[good things]

Renegade:
[bad things]

Neutral:
[decent things]
Dude, renegade isn't the "evil side". It's the "get the job done[footnote]and the "be a jerk" options get lumped in here too, but still[/footnote] side".
 

Bluesclues

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Immsys said:
I'm assuming the quote directed at me was accidental. I never said I wanted a popcorn ending, and I'm pretty sure that's not what people are complaining about either.
 

Supertegwyn

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http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/9727423/1

Boom. That's everything you need to know.

Thread closed.
 

Shock and Awe

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Uszi said:
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...New relays would be built, it would only be a matter of time.
I mean nothing personal, but I really reject this line of reasoning. The Relays were unimaginable reaper tech. Given the explanation of how they work in the codex, and what we know about science today, they're fantasy.

The Protheans managed to build one crappy little relay after 50,000 years, but they had existing relays on which to base their designs and information.

I don't think it's realistic to think that new relays would be built for generations and generations and generations and generations and generations and generations and generations and generations. Which means that any stranded Quarians or Asari or Geth or Krogan or Turians or Salarians or Rachni would never ever see their home worlds again.
Actually, they still had FTL flight, though instead of instant travel it would be like the sea voyages of the Age of Discovery, months and months, but within a lifetime. It would make the galaxy a way bigger place, but the civilization would still exist.
 

Shock and Awe

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Zen Toombs said:
Bvenged said:
Paragon:
[good things]

Renegade:
[bad things]

Neutral:
[decent things]
Dude, renegade isn't the "evil side". It's the "get the job done[footnote]and the "be a jerk" options get lumped in here too, but still[/footnote] side".
I always called it the "screw niceness lets get this over with" side.
 

DakRattler

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RJ 17 said:
Paragon Ending: Enslave the Reapers. Many people think this is the Renegade ending because it was the Illusive Man's plan, but in truth it is the Paragon ending. For starters, like with everything in the ME universe, it's color-coordinated: Blue light on the ramp and a blue beam/shockwave released by the Citadel, and as we all know: blue = Paragon. But furthermore, think about what the outcome would be. Yes, the relays are destroyed, but the Reapers still exist. Now, though, they are controlled by Paragon Shepard's benevolent will. As such, it really isn't that far of a stretch to believe that Shepard will turn the Reapers from being the terrifying destroyers of the galaxy to being instrumental in its construction. Given that the Reapers were the ones that built the relays in the first place, they could just as easily do so again.
Had to point this out. This argument is a tad bit ridiculous. So Shepard basically becomes God while in control of these Reapers. But in the end he is still human, a human that makes mistakes and has perspective judgment. Do you honestly think anyone would not be corrupted by that kind of power? Because what may be justice for one race may not be justice for another, it is all perspectives. Take the Geth for instance, they are synthetics, but they have souls. So what if the Geth started wiping out the entire galaxy? Would it be right for God Shepard to step in? Of course in the short run he would use them for good, but what of the long run? The results of this "Paragon" option are not as black and white as you make them out to be. On this note, if you choose the "Renegade" option the Reaper corpses are just chilling out around Earth now. What makes you think that some engineers could not reverse engineer some of that tech on their bodies to reconstruct better engines and possibly recreate some sort of Mass Relay system? Also it is interesting to consider that communication lines are still up across the galaxy.

On a side note, bioware really dropped the ball with the no epilogue thing (or very little). And the Normandy just crash landing in the middle of nowhere? Stupid. I don't really care that Shepard sacrificed him/herself because the series has to end some time, and that is the way to do it. But to have such a bleak ending for every choice (Normandy stranded, crew probably dies, mass relays destroyed sending universe technologically back thousands of years (also in a DLC it states that if a Mass Relay blew up it would take out an entire solar system... soooo wtf?)) is really a kick in the balls and I would consider it a bit lazy. Even some ceremony or end text credits with some pictures to tell what happened to everyone would be nice. But no, nothing.
 

saleem

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I think its funny that people on all the forums I've read keep bringing up the whole issue with Arrival where destroy a mass relay=solar system destroyed. You guys do know there is a difference between an explosion and a directed explosion right? The relay's are clearly generating a corridor when they go up so the bulk of the explosion would travel the path of least resistance ie the mass free tunnel.

Anyway I've been reading that growing indoctrination thread on BSN (thanks for pointing it out guys) and the more I read it the more I'm convinced this is some HUGE social experiment in story telling that BIOWARE is pulling. Only time will tell but some players have already mentioned a discrepancy between the actual installation size and file sizes - there is obviously something being locked away either by a time lock or will be activated via an update of some sort.

Alternatively and more sinisterly, does anyone remember that statement from Bobby Kotick a while ago where he wanted to sell cutscenes and other stuff as DLC? Could this be EA's way to test the waters of that concept? Sort of like a "hey if you want the final final ending (cutscene + extra hour of game)buy this DLC for $15". I would not be surprised considering the direction the industry is going.