I highly doubt Skyward Sword is the "Best game ever made"

[Hiroshi Mishima]

The second I saw this thread my first thought was "Yeah, but neither was FF7 and people keep insisting it is the best JRPG ever, regardless of how much you grind their faces into the painfully obvious."

At least insofar as something like Zelda or Mario is concerned, every couple of games you suddenly get "greatest game ever" as the tagline people like to stick next to one of the titles. Particularly Mario 64 and Zelda 64 (yes, I'm aware of the irony).


However, I sincerely doubt that Nintendo is paying for the reviews, as others have said. They're not exactly the developers of Kane & Lynch, which was the only game I think that seriously paid for its reviews (although a few other games come to mind). The only time you could really call Nintendo overly biased for their own products was back in the heyday of the original Nintendo Power, but anyone who actually read it since the inception (like myself) would have noticed that just as many games got low scores as got good ones. Granted most of the great scores came from Nintendo's own first party games, but back in the day they actually did make great games.

Will Skyward Sword be the "best game ever"? Probably not, because in my mind the best Zelda game ever would be the one I started writing up details/a script for years ago. But that's not very realistic either.

I will, of course, be hopeful that it'll be good and that Nintendo will have learned from past mistakes, but this IS Nintendo we're talking about, and much like a lot of developers these days, don't seem to be keeping up. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

[DRes82]

Heh...look at all the Wii-defenders showing up in force!

I have a Wii. I never finished Twilight Princess, and I was a stalwart Zelda fan up until TP. TP was lackluster in my opinion, and Wii is a mediocre platform. The wolf form idea just had so much potential.

I have absolutely no doubt that Skyward Sword will not even come close to the quality of Skyrim. It will be another graphically-dated slog through 8 similar, albeit differently skinned dungeons with a sketchy storyline draped over the top. That said, I will end up buying it and most likely being disappointed by it. The last great Zelda game was Windwaker, in my opinion.

Again, I was an avid Zelda enthusiast from original Zelda until Twilight Princess. I owned an original NES and bought an original gold copy of Zelda.

I am also an Elder Scrolls fan. I've played Arena to Skyrim and everything in between. This is a franchise that has only gotten better with age. Skyrim is a work of art as much as it is a form of entertainment. You can tell that a lot of love went into making it.

I havn't played Skyward Sword yet, but I have seen a lot of demo video of it and it just looks like Twilight Princess in a different setting. Not hugely excited.

 

[TheFloBros]

Maybe I'm just worried that it might steal GOTY from Skyrim, idk. It just bothers me that people are giving a Wii game good reviews...

EDIT:
I'm very biased against the Wii for some reason, always hated it, always will.

Two things.

1) Why do you, as a consumer, care what is considered the game of the year. Seriously, how does a well received game affect your enjoyment of a different, also well received game.

2) Hate? You hate the Wii? Okay, you're allowed to hate things, but you are admitting a strong bias against the Wii and Wii games and then decide make a thread dismissing the good reviews of a game in a legendary (yes, I know) series like Zelda. You think Nintendo went as far as to buy a good reviews, when being a Zelda game likely would have gotten great reviews anyway unless it was absolutely terrible. We all have opinions, but given what's behind yours, why should anyone take this seriously.

Your taking this entire post too seriously my friend. I'm just saying that it seems a little ridiculous that all these game reviewers are calling this "the greatest game of all time" when to me, it looks ordinary.

haha jesus, i think you hold the record for most quotes on one page...people are quite pissed off at you it seems, the irony in them asking why you hate/get pissed off at the wii, when they are in fact getting pissed off at you for pissed off about being pissed at the wii...

still, i can see where your coming from, i've always hated the wii's controls and the shitty thing overheats it's crappy hardware way worse than my ps3/360 ever has, so i too have a bias towards it (not to say i don't enjoy some super smash or other gamecube games on it though..with gamecube controllers.)

still, people definitely misread your intentions with your post...i certainly took it "lightheartedly" while most people didn't seem to understand that..

Well I was trying to have an actual discussion about something (isnt that what forums are about?), thats why I have so many quotes, and i think you might one of the only intelligent posters here. hahaha

 

[TheFloBros]

Maybe I'm just worried that it might steal GOTY from Skyrim, idk. It just bothers me that people are giving a Wii game good reviews...

EDIT:
I'm very biased against the Wii for some reason, always hated it, always will.

TheFloBros have you played it, no then shut up ok.

No, I'm entitled to an opinion, and I will speak it thank you.

 

[Nickompoop]

So far I've been hearing tons of high praise for Skyward sword, some people even going as far as calling it the best game ever made. And I'm a huge Zelda fan and have played all the games, but I really highly doubt that it's the best game ever made. Somewhere in my my mind I'm thinking Nintendo is paying for these reviews.

You've got some epic paranoia problems there. Nintendo is not paying for those reviews--it doesn't need to. The vast majority of their games are very good, with some exceptions. I have a friend who reviewed it for a Japanese game site, and he says it's the best Zelda game yet. It will be good. The best ever made? Maybe, but that's just an opinion.

 

[TheFloBros]

So far I've been hearing tons of high praise for Skyward sword, some people even going as far as calling it the best game ever made. And I'm a huge Zelda fan and have played all the games, but I really highly doubt that it's the best game ever made. Somewhere in my my mind I'm thinking Nintendo is paying for these reviews.

You've got some epic paranoia problems there. Nintendo is not paying for those reviews--it doesn't need to. The vast majority of their games are very good, with some exceptions. I have a friend who reviewed it for a Japanese game site, and he says it's the best Zelda game yet. It will be good. The best ever made? Maybe, but that's just an opinion.

Well it's an opinion I don't like...

but in all seriousness i just dont really care now, people here got a point, idc if Skyrim doesn't get game of the year, its still a great game and i love it.

 

[WeAreStevo]

Maybe I'm just worried that it might steal GOTY from Skyrim, idk. It just bothers me that people are giving a Wii game good reviews...

Nah, that'll be Arkham City (in my opinoin).

At the end of the day, I don't see why people give two hoots what is "offcially" crowned GOTY. So long as it's your GOTY, and you are the one enjoying it, it shouldn't matter.

Lots of people love Skyrim, lots of people love Zelda.

I personally love the Arkham games.

See, I didn't really like Arkham City. I felt it sacrificed too much story telling in order to add an open world experience.

I would have liked a more linear game like Arkham Asylum with more character development. I mean, two face was barely in it (even in the Catwoman aspect)>

As for Skyrim, I think it falls into the same category as MW3 where if it wins GOTY I'd blame the fanboys for making it so, not the game itself. Idk...maybe I'm uber critical when it comes to games...

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

eh........I never understood why people had such devotion to Zelda...then again I don't get how people could be hard core Mario fans either.

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

Maybe I'm just worried that it might steal GOTY from Skyrim, idk. It just bothers me that people are giving a Wii game good reviews...

Nah, that'll be Arkham City (in my opinoin).

At the end of the day, I don't see why people give two hoots what is "offcially" crowned GOTY. So long as it's your GOTY, and you are the one enjoying it, it shouldn't matter.

Lots of people love Skyrim, lots of people love Zelda.

I personally love the Arkham games.

See, I didn't really like Arkham City. I felt it sacrificed too much story telling in order to add an open world experience.

I would have liked a more linear game like Arkham Asylum with more character development. I mean, two face was barely in it (even in the Catwoman aspect)>

As for Skyrim, I think it falls into the same category as MW3 where if it wins GOTY I'd blame the fanboys for making it so, not the game itself. Idk...maybe I'm uber critical when it comes to games...

did you really just compare skyrim to COD? Come on, I like both of them (for different reasons) but lets not drag down the TES series to the sh*t story telling and "omg no russian level!!" that COD tried to pull off.

 

[pppppppppppppppppp]

You know, it's one thing to say an opinion is wrong, but it's another thing to say an opinion is wrong before you've had a chance to form your own opinion.

Ugh, this is just as annoying as those people who complain about negative/positive movie reviews on Rotten Tomatoes before the movie even comes out. -_____________-

 

[DJ Nyne]

It really does boil down to opinion. Hell there's probably someone somewhere who thinks superman 64 should have won game of the year.. yes in the end Wii will never compete graphics wise with any other system, your not making pro-Nintendo people feel bad by pointing it out. Yes Legend of Zelda games are usually really good because of game play (puzzles, Dungeons, and side quest stuff) . Personally, nostalgia's never been a reason to buy a game for me, I wait until there's a few reviews up so I can get a feel of what the games gonna be like. If you don't like the Wii just because, cool. If you think Ocarina of time was secretly designed by Eisenstein and Jesus, that's cool too. Game of the year is ultimately decided by the OPINION of whoever it is you think is most credible; Moreover I've always thought Majoras mask is the best Zelda of all time.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Best Zelda game for sure, and that's where it ends.
I played Skyward Sword and it is far from perfect, actually it's very much like Skyrim, there are problems up the wazu with both and these games don't feel like they came from 2011
On the engines alone I would put Zelda down for 2002 and Skyrim at about 2006 and that interface at 1988.

But their charm carries them far above the sum of their parts, and that's what traps people in their fanboy goggles and they won't see the problems anymore, everything is perfect and "iz best game evah!"

 

[Elf Defiler Korgan]

I was cynical towards this game, I really thought it would be shit. I went in ready to criticise the hell out of it and all my friends who loved it...

And then I found myself really enjoying it, playing this bandit orc raider/barbarian type character. A green Conan. I'm having a lot of fun, and the world is sizeable and put together quite well. Far cold north is a great setting. Needs more monsters though.

 

[WeAreStevo]

Maybe I'm just worried that it might steal GOTY from Skyrim, idk. It just bothers me that people are giving a Wii game good reviews...

Nah, that'll be Arkham City (in my opinoin).

At the end of the day, I don't see why people give two hoots what is "offcially" crowned GOTY. So long as it's your GOTY, and you are the one enjoying it, it shouldn't matter.

Lots of people love Skyrim, lots of people love Zelda.

I personally love the Arkham games.

See, I didn't really like Arkham City. I felt it sacrificed too much story telling in order to add an open world experience.

I would have liked a more linear game like Arkham Asylum with more character development. I mean, two face was barely in it (even in the Catwoman aspect)>

As for Skyrim, I think it falls into the same category as MW3 where if it wins GOTY I'd blame the fanboys for making it so, not the game itself. Idk...maybe I'm uber critical when it comes to games...

did you really just compare skyrim to COD? Come on, I like both of them (for different reasons) but lets not drag down the TES series to the sh*t story telling and "omg no russian level!!" that COD tried to pull off.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing the physical game of Skyrim to COD.

I am comparing the rabid fanbase of each game to one another.

Before either game was released, there were countless "ZOMG COD!" and "AW HELL NO! SKYRIM TEXTURE UPDATES!" threads that turn into all out flame wars.

Basically, both sides have a rabid fanbase that will refuse to accept that their game may in fact not be the second coming of christ.

IMO though Skyrim > COD, but I've never been a big fan of COD so it's not that difficult of a success...

 

[Uncanny Doom]

It's always kind of silly to believe that games are getting universal acclaim because every critic is being paid for it. What happens when the game releases and lots of regular gamers find the game to be good as well? Were they paid by Nintendo?

 

[Helmholtz Watson]

Maybe I'm just worried that it might steal GOTY from Skyrim, idk. It just bothers me that people are giving a Wii game good reviews...

Nah, that'll be Arkham City (in my opinoin).

At the end of the day, I don't see why people give two hoots what is "offcially" crowned GOTY. So long as it's your GOTY, and you are the one enjoying it, it shouldn't matter.

Lots of people love Skyrim, lots of people love Zelda.

I personally love the Arkham games.

See, I didn't really like Arkham City. I felt it sacrificed too much story telling in order to add an open world experience.

I would have liked a more linear game like Arkham Asylum with more character development. I mean, two face was barely in it (even in the Catwoman aspect)>

As for Skyrim, I think it falls into the same category as MW3 where if it wins GOTY I'd blame the fanboys for making it so, not the game itself. Idk...maybe I'm uber critical when it comes to games...

did you really just compare skyrim to COD? Come on, I like both of them (for different reasons) but lets not drag down the TES series to the sh*t story telling and "omg no russian level!!" that COD tried to pull off.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not comparing the physical game of Skyrim to COD.

I am comparing the rabid fanbase of each game to one another.

Before either game was released, there were countless "ZOMG COD!" and "AW HELL NO! SKYRIM TEXTURE UPDATES!" threads that turn into all out flame wars.

Basically, both sides have a rabid fanbase that will refuse to accept that their game may in fact not be the second coming of christ.

IMO though Skyrim > COD, but I've never been a big fan of COD so it's not that difficult of a success...

hmmm....you make a good point. Ok

 

[Jaime_Wolf]

First, yes, subjectivity and all that.

Second, I actually wouldn't be particularly surprised. The Zelda games are pretty consistently great. They tend to be very polished with tight narratives and tight gameplay. Twilight Princess was wonderful. If they really did take the already great formula and update it well, I could see this being considered one of the better games made thus far.

 

[EHKOS]

I don't know what's wrong with me,(I've been to several doctors) but I don't like any Zelda games.

But that's moot because Skyrim is best game ever made YET. Until they make another one.