I just uninstalled Skyrim

[AMMO Kid]

I understand that there are lots of people who hate Skyrim, but why do you all have to keep posting new thread about it all the time? You're not stunning anyone with your amazing discovery that you don't like it... The shock value of that is long gone.

 

[Elementary - Dear Watson]

I think its hilarious that people are still going on about how much they didn't like something, and because they didn't then the people who did were obviously stupid...

Going on a website forums, and just reproducing the same old thread of 'I am a person who didn't like __game for x, y, z reasons, and therefore all reveiwers are stupid for not agreeing with me, and anyone who likes it is a fanboy' and then just using the same drawn out complaints, that others have used, and have been disagreed with over and over, is just a version of trolling... surely?


If not then:
Maybe every game developer is not trying to appeal to every gamer...
Maybe some people still find a story immersive even if the character animations aren't out of a movie... (Hell, look at JRPG's! Brilliant stories... quite often some text next to a static picture for dialogue)
Maybe technology isn't advanced enough to make a game of that size to your perfect standards...

Food for thought...

 

[Hal10k]

I understand that there are lots of people who hate Skyrim, but why do you all have to keep posting new thread about it all the time? You're not stunning anyone with your amazing discovery that you don't like it... The shock value of that is long gone.

I still think it's better than the "I don't see what's so great about Half-Life 2" threads.

 

[Westaway]

I'm not to keen on Skyrim either. The strange thing is that almost everyone who talks about Skyrim can go into deep essay style discussions of the games failings, then end it all by saying "but I still like the game" without giving a real reason why.

This is the phenomena of cognitive dissonance.

OP, I shed manly tears for you, enduring the way you did. I played Skyrim for 6 hours to see what the hype was all about. When I realized the combat was just as shitty as the previous games, I wanted to stop, but I continued on until the 6 hour mark before I couldn't take it anymore.

Bethesda produces a piece of shit and people praise it like the next coming. What disturbs me the most is looking back at posts and reviews just after the release that give the game nothing but unwithering praise.

Now, buy yourself Dark Souls and immerse yourself in a world of enjoyable pain.

I have Dark Souls and Skyrim. I got Dark Souls first. I can safely say Skyrim is better. Not saying Dark Souls is bad, but is has the same amount of polish, with way less content. And OP, people emd the rant with "imma go play Skyrim now", because the game is is hella addictive. The flaws are minor really. Unless you dislike the combat. I like the combat, I don't know where this "weightless" thing comes from, you get a visual, audio and vibrate cue to show contact.

 

[Westaway]

I find it strange that if someone compliments a game, a ton of people pour in and are like 'OH YEAH, GREAT GAME. LOVE YOU, OP.' But if someone says a game is bad, a ton of people pour in and are like 'THAT'S YOUR OPINION. WE DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOU. GO AWAY! LALALALALALALA'

I don't understand, would you prefer it if they got into an argument which will go nowhere? You aren't going to convince someonee to like or dislike a game on the internet.

 

[Sylveria]

Ah yes the egotism of gamers, "I don't like it, it's not perfect so it sucks and everyone else should hate it to."If you got 10 pages of people calling you a troll, it's probably because you came off like one.

There's nothing wrong with disliking a game. I can't count how many multi-million seller AAA titles that I either didn't like or just couldn't care less about, Skyrim being the latter. If you try to make a "Objective" statement of the over all "goodness" on a game, you're basically always going to be "wrong" and having people attack you for it because they're having fun and you're trying to shit on them for it.

A simple issue is often the language one uses, owning you statements as your own feelings or opinions is far different than boldly saying "This game is utter shit and you shouldn't be playing it," cause then you've made yourself confrontational. People do not react well to that. Here's a phrase more people should start using "I HAD MORE FUN PLAYING X than Y." Instead of "X is BETTER than Y." People can have fun playing "bad" games just like people can have fun watching "bad" movies.

There's also nothing wrong with criticisms of a game, like or dislike, but again it's in the language and you need to back up your case.

 

[AMMO Kid]

I understand that there are lots of people who hate Skyrim, but why do you all have to keep posting new thread about it all the time? You're not stunning anyone with your amazing discovery that you don't like it... The shock value of that is long gone.

I still think it's better than the "I don't see what's so great about Half-Life 2" threads.

True. Hopefully these don't go on that long. HL2 has been out for ages.

 

[thomaskattus]

I just need better quests. Once I have better quests, I will love the game. Without good quests, playing it feels pointless.

This was my problem with it. In both Morrowind and Oblivion the quests actually felt somewhat meaningful. This time I could not get excited about the Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood quests, two factions that I utterly enjoyed playing with in Oblivion.

I wont join the "over-simplified" bandwagon cause that horse is dead and rotting by now. But all in all I was disappointed with Skyrim.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

*Looks up from playing Skyrim*

Huh, what?

Oh, this again. Yeah, yeah, you don't like a popular game, we get it, don't understand why everyone likes it, gotcha, everyone who likes it has no taste, same old, same old.

*Goes back to roleplaying a female Bosmer vampire thief Nightingale*

 

[TheLefty]

I honestly don't know why, but I don't really enjoy the game much either. I mean, it's good, great even in some aspects, but it just misses in a lot of places. The combat isn't super fantastic, the characters are all annoying and I personally don't really like many of the quests. But I play it anyway. And I'm not sure why.

 

[Hal10k]

I understand that there are lots of people who hate Skyrim, but why do you all have to keep posting new thread about it all the time? You're not stunning anyone with your amazing discovery that you don't like it... The shock value of that is long gone.

I still think it's better than the "I don't see what's so great about Half-Life 2" threads.

True. Hopefully these don't go on that long. HL2 has been out for ages.

Well, those have only been increasing in number over time due to people hearing about its status as a classic and then going to play it. So eventually the entire internet is going to collapse under the weight of people complaining about Half-Life 2.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

People with high expectations make terrible conversationalists.

 

[theultimateend]

The point is, opinions, man.

I'm not sure it is that. The Escapist forums are painfully cliche.

Want to have a popular thread? Here is what you do.

Look for something popular. Lets call that thing "Zebras".

Make a post called "Zebras are crap and here is why."

or

"I just gave up on Zebras."

Then you write a bunch of things that describe any other equine, act like you've unraveled the mysteries of the universe and rake in that sweet sweet post count raising debate.

Think I'm joking? (You probably don't) Look at the top 5 posts on any Monday, one of them is about whatever is currently the most popular game or entertainment item and how it sucks.

Then the posts tend to be a short rant at top, then bullet points on why it sucks a few responses down, then a half dozen smart folks say "Dude. It's just opinions." The rest of the escapist looks and (guessing by the depreciating response value of these topics) yao mings it.

Spoiler: My face when I see the top 5

I find it strange that if someone compliments a game, a ton of people pour in and are like 'OH YEAH, GREAT GAME. LOVE YOU, OP.' But if someone says a game is bad, a ton of people pour in and are like 'THAT'S YOUR OPINION. WE DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOU. GO AWAY! LALALALALALALA'

Positivity breeds positivity, Negativity breeds negativity.

Next time you are at the store try this.

Walk up to two different women, say one is looking lovely today and then tell the other one she is a *****.

Get back to me and see how that goes. Make sure you do both of these while surrounded by people, I'd like to know how the audience reacted.

 

[Athinira]

Harsh man. Perhaps your overall gaming expectations are too high.

Not really. The problem is that as long as you give people what they want, their overall gaming expectations gets too low.

People had wanted a new open-world sandbox game of immense size that they could explore for a long time, so Bethesda gave it to them (at a VERY convenient time, mind you, Shooter Season 2011) and got huge amounts of praises, high reviews and Game of the Year awards.

The reason is that it's human nature that when you love something, you typically become oblivious to all (or at least most) of the faults that 'something' has (like hearing someone tell you that his overweight girlfriend is the most beautiful thing in the world). So because people have wanted a game like Skyrim for so long, they ignored all the faults Skyrim had. Listening to fanboys trying to excuse the glitches, the NPC's acting, the terrible lag on the PS3, the repetitive combat which lacks depth and skill beyond spotting the obvious glitches, how any of the actions you take have very little (or no) consequence. I could go on. But they love the premise, so they ignore the faults, and therefore standards drop.

I can respect people had fun with Skyrim. It's not for me to tell them that they didn't. But Skyrim is by far one of the worst designed games of 2011, and the only thing it has going for it is basically that it's an extremely great recipe for a game. Just too bad the cook sucked. The game doesn't deserve a single Game of the Year Award, because it's horrible design from start to end, and for those of us who actually NEEDS good game design to enjoy a game because we don't let ourselves ensnare by a premise, it's simply not fun and a waste of money.

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.oO(On a sidenote, Dragon Age 2 fits into the same category as Skyrim. It just wasn't as good a recipe + many people had expected something different, so many people realized it was shit design and reviewbombed it. Ironically most reviewers were still tricked)

 

[Epona]

I'm not to keen on Skyrim either. The strange thing is that almost everyone who talks about Skyrim can go into deep essay style discussions of the games failings, then end it all by saying "but I still like the game" without giving a real reason why. I think the Extra Credits review of the intro is a good example of this (don't think I can post a link, just google it). They essentially go on for half an hour about how Bethesda's dev team must be 80% chimpasee, then end on a "now I'm going to go play more Skyrim" note. It's like people are somehow afraid to come out and admit that the games just not very good.

That's exactly it! Any drift from "Skyrim is the best game ever!" was treated harshly near launch. We are just now seeing people come out and say "You know what, I beat Skyrim and it really wasn't that good."

I started a thread about how SOME THINGS were better in Oblivion. Things like being able to sort the inventory, having attributes and things like that and people just freaked out. Fact is, Skyrim was hyped to hell and back and 2 months later people are finally realizing that the emperor has no clothes. The dragons turned out to be an annoyance almost as bad as the Oblivion gates.

I never understood why people were so excited about dragons being in the game. People act like they had never seen dragons in a game. Dragons are a mainstay in medieval RPG's. I remember turning into different dragons in the first Breath of Fire game, 20 years ago. Every SNES JRPG I can think of had dragons.

 

[theultimateend]

Fact is, Skyrim was hyped to hell and back and 2 months later people are finally realizing that the emperor has no clothes. The dragons turned out to be an annoyance almost as bad as the Oblivion gates.

Spoiler: There is a good reason for this.

I killed him and have them on display in my basement.

*Looks up from playing Skyrim*

Huh, what?

Oh, this again. Yeah, yeah, you don't like a popular game, we get it, don't understand why everyone likes it, gotcha, everyone who likes it has no taste, same old, same old.

*Goes back to roleplaying a female Bosmer vampire thief Nightingale*

I tried to become a vampire Argonian and I swear to the divines it is impossible...

Online says the resistance to disease doesn't count Vampires, I'm calling bullshit.

 

[Anthony Wells]

I'm not to keen on Skyrim either. The strange thing is that almost everyone who talks about Skyrim can go into deep essay style discussions of the games failings, then end it all by saying "but I still like the game" without giving a real reason why. I think the Extra Credits review of the intro is a good example of this (don't think I can post a link, just google it). They essentially go on for half an hour about how Bethesda's dev team must be 80% chimpasee, then end on a "now I'm going to go play more Skyrim" note. It's like people are somehow afraid to come out and admit that the games just not very good.

alright then here goes: i like playing skyrim because i genuinely do enjoy the combat, i find the character animations to be the best out of bethesda's lineup, i havent ecnountered more than 2 game breaking bugs and both were fixed by an easy restart. i like the games story even if it is pretty flimsy i enjoy the quests and just exploring around. i enjoy looking at the beautiful environments and when combat pops up i have fun playing it. its nto without its faults, bugs can be bad at times but most for me are fixed with a simple reset. Character animations do feel stiff sometimes and the way some people continue to talk while drinking makes me laugh so i dont fault the game for it even though its not realistic..but i dont care for "immersion" im not playing a video game to get immersed in it and forget that im playing it i play video games to have fun. it entertains me and its doing its job as a game to do that I have fun playing it and have more fun playing it than any other game i have ever played. so how was that for defending why i like skyrim and think its a great game DESPITE its many flaws.

 

[Savagezion]

In my opinion, you have very low standards if you think Skyrim is a good game. Yes it is big, but so are MMORPG's...

I feel the same way about Oblivion.

As far as I am concerned:
2. No scripting. Also no AI capable of learning. Leads to a very shallow experience.
Not exactly sure what you mean by learning. No game offers that currently. I will say Skyrims AI behavior is a bit too predictable. But so is most AI on the market.

3. For every hilarious bug, there are 10 bugs that are detrimental. And lets not forget the game/console breaking bugs.
Yeah, a bug is a bug. Humor is irrelevant to me too. However, I have never experienced the "game/console breaking" bugs people keep claiming personally. So there is that.

4. The level scaling is still broken as shit.
I agree, but it rarely affects my enjoyment personally. Usually it means stuff is too easy, but considering the story keeps reassuring me I am a bad ass dragonborn, it works out in favor of the game's presentation by coincidence.

6. NPC's that aren't lifeless husks? We must have played different games...
Must have, I purposely didn't use the term "soulless" though. The AI imitates life over animatronics though, unlike previous Bethesda games. Oblivin and Morrowind are way worse than Skyrim in this regard.

7. Except that Bethesda use the same shitty story over and over again. Your some prophecised hero to save something or other, blah, blah, blah.
Most medium uses that story all the time. The Matrix is held on a pedestal. Star Wars, Clash of the Titans, etc. It was presented and told pretty well in Skyrim. Morrowind's was told well but its presentation was crap. Oblivion failed on both accounts.

8. Social/Political drama rare? Played Dragon Age? Played The Witcher? Hmm...
I said rare, not non-existent. You only listed 2 games. Moral choice crap doesn't apply here.

9. The combat is a disgrace.
Preference is all I can say to that. I find it average to above average. Morrowind's combat was a disgrace. Why the hell would I ever want to thrust an axe?

I ain't saying you have to like it and as you said it comes to preference. I am not saying you are not entitled to your opinions either. This is just a look at my perspective on those particular criticisms. Just in case you you have interest in it.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

Fact is, Skyrim was hyped to hell and back and 2 months later people are finally realizing that the emperor has no clothes. The dragons turned out to be an annoyance almost as bad as the Oblivion gates.

Spoiler: There is a good reason for this.

I killed him and have them on display in my basement.

*Looks up from playing Skyrim*

Huh, what?

Oh, this again. Yeah, yeah, you don't like a popular game, we get it, don't understand why everyone likes it, gotcha, everyone who likes it has no taste, same old, same old.

*Goes back to roleplaying a female Bosmer vampire thief Nightingale*

I tried to become a vampire Argonian and I swear to the divines it is impossible...

Online says the resistance to disease doesn't count Vampires, I'm calling bullshit.

It's possible, but it can be a bit of a pain. You basically have to let a vampire attack you until you contract it. I had to reload like 5 times before I got it.

Just keep with it, shouldn't take long.

 

[Mozza444]

Guess what?
I don't care.

I find it strange that if someone compliments a game, a ton of people pour in and are like 'OH YEAH, GREAT GAME. LOVE YOU, OP.' But if someone says a game is bad, a ton of people pour in and are like 'THAT'S YOUR OPINION. WE DON'T HAVE TO LISTEN TO YOU. GO AWAY! LALALALALALALA'

I believe the problem is not that at all.
I haven't seen one thread on here that says:

"I still have Skyim Installed.
It's a great game and it has lots of improvements.. blah,blah,blah"

Because if it was that i still wouldn't give a fuck.
Either way the threads have no point, its just people who don't enjoy games who think they are unique and they are not.