I just uninstalled Skyrim

[Adam Jensen_v1legacy]

Meh. I love the game too much to care about any of this. More than 200 hours in, and I can see no end in sight. The only thing that could be better is the soundtrack. But not many games can have an ambient soundtrack as awesome as The Witcher 1.

 

[Eggsnham]

I just need better quests. Once I have better quests, I will love the game. Without good quests, playing it feels pointless.

You're on a quest to destroy a dragon god.

Whilst you're trekking around the landscape looking for stuff to help with that, you can do anything from picking up somebody's groceries, to helping a local deity in return for a super powerful artifact.

It's just my opinion, but I don't see how this game is without good quests.

I'm a fanboy of the series, so take my posts about it with a little salt, but this game is so good (in my eyes) that any imperfections I come across, are almost always smoothed out by the fact that there's so much to do, and so many ways to do it.

It's not a perfect game by any means, but it's kept me playing for nearly 200 hours, it would have been longer if my PS3 weren't broken.

 

[Conza]

And I feel nothing.

This game literally has been one of the most miserable gaming experiences of my life. I was 'lucky' enough to be able to play it a few days before it came out (the PS3 version was already being sold here, and my friend had bought it). I saw the preposterously bad NPC-character animations, the same weightless ragdoll physics, the same pointless and consequence-free gameplay and the same amount of bugs as Oblivion's. I went on this forum to downplay people's INSANE expectations, and got 10+ pages of people calling me a troll and flaming me to death.

From that day forward, I could only see the game's flaws. I couldn't enjoy it. I played through the main story once, did pretty much everything else with another character, but all I felt throughout playing the game was hatred. Nothing I did mattered, because the only consequence ANY of your actions have is sometimes hearing a guard say one fucking other line than 'arrow to the knee'. Now, some people play an Elder Scrolls game as some kind of playground. They don't care. They just download mods and dick around in the world for hundreds of hours, throwing chickens at bystanders and whatnot. Fine. Other people would like an immersive RPG experience, which Bethesda is still unable to provide in any way, since every NPC still acts like a lobotomized robot.

I then proceeded to download the child killing mod and the 'set every NPC to non-essential' mod, since I wanted to be able to go Morrowind on the game's ass. Cause, you have to admit, setting pretty much half of the game's NPCs to essential was just bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sakes, you couldn't even kill most of the beggars. I then literally killed off all of Skyrim's population systematically. This helped deal with my frustration with them not acting like proper NPCs. At least when they were dead they didn't annoy me. But now I'm done, and the game is gone.

I hope I forget about Skyrim, the biggest load of shit I have ever had on my harddrive.

EDIT: Also, enough with the 'so you didn't like it big deal don't make a thread about it'. Shut up.

This is a forum for gaming discussion. I disliked a game and I stated my reasons. I wanted to write this thread because I was frustrated with the game, and after posting it, I felt better. This had led to a discussion.

How about I turn your own weapons against you: if you don't want to read about people having a negative opinion on a game you like, don't click those threads and don't reply. This point is as moot as yours.

I'm not telling you that if you like this game you are wrong, dumb, or anything along those lines. I didn't like this game because of above reasons. If you liked it, I'm happy for you, since you're having fun. If you read more into this post and feel personally attacked, lay off the caffeine.

That's your opinion, and I'm sorry to hear you didn't enjoy it.

I loved the game, granted I only played it for about ~40 hours, but I did many of the sidequests and the main story all the way through, I played it on PC.

I don't share any of your critisms, not really, I found the story immersive, albeit confusing to get into, then too short, the mechanics (again on PC, its hard to tell if you played it on PS3 or PC since you mentioned mods), were quite well done, the NPCs which you didn't click with were pretty good, once you get over the 'woah, fallout 3 people' that quickly vanishes and they were all mostly (the main ones) good, I didn't like many of the followers though.

Anyway, a shame, now go get out Mass Effect 1 or 2 and play a truely epic RPG

 

[hazabaza1]

Cool story bro?
I just today modded the shit out of it and remembered why I always end up enjoying Bethesda games.

 

[Epona]

It seems to me that comments like yours (and there are many) are really saying that those who hate Oblivion will be the most likely to love Skyrim. To me, that is evidence enough of how far Skyrim has strayed from the expectations of TES fans. In short, Bethesda sold out TES fans.

Buh?

They're extraordinarily similar, sharing almost all the same virtues and all the same flaws.

Hate Skyrim if that floats your boat. But sold out TES fans? Good grief, people.

Maybe you haven't noticed all the "Oblivion sucked, Skyrim is the best game ever!" posts?

...apart from the fact that Oblivion is one of 4 Elder Scrolls games that came before Skyrim? It lived up to and blew apart my expectations, as a person who loved Morrowind, likes Daggerfall and can't stand Oblivion.

Why can't you stand Oblivion but like Morrowind and Skyrim?

The common sentiments that I have seen point out the somewhat generic environment design, copy-and-paste locations, comically bad voice acting, the flawed leveling system, and the fact that all of the NPCs looked like potatoes. Many people who disliked Oblivion for these reasons felt that Skyrim addressed these concerns well.

It didn't though.

Skyrim has:

- generic environment design (ie, mountains and snow vs forests)
- copy and paste locations
- bad voice acting and comic dialog (ie, the arrow to the knee and the horrific german accent)
- the level scaling system is better but not by much
- The NPC's do look better but that hardly helps gameplay

Like I said, people felt that Skyrim addressed these concerns. Something that feels unique or interesting to one person will feel generic or boring to another. Different people take up different cues from their surroundings. The people who are complimenting Skyrim over Oblivion are the ones who saw positive differences in the game.

You didn't answer my a question then. I ask why YOU like Morrowind and Skyrim and not Oblivion. I know what every one else is saying and I think none of it rings true (as I pointed out with bullet points).

I think Skyrim is worse because the leveling system has been reduced to three attributes and perks. The perks being far more important than your skills (you can have a high skill level in something but it not be as good as having a low skill level plus a perk).

Don't take my words the wrong way: I liked Oblivion. Not as much as I liked Morrowind, and I'm still reserving judgement on Skyrim until I can reflect upon it more in hindsight, but I still thought Oblivion was really good, especially when you take Shivering Isles into account. It still had flaws, though, and the reason Skyrim has garnered so much praise is that many people feel it addresses those flaws. This may not ring true to you, but it does for many people. And if somebody says "I enjoyed Skyrim's locations more than Oblivion's" or "I liked the voice acting in Skyrim more than Oblivion", you can't really tell them that they're wrong.

I'm not entirely sure how we segued into a discussion of the leveling system, but I prefer the perk system to the previous game's linear stat progressions. It allows for greater specialization, even if you've managed to max out your stats, and makes for immediate, noticeable benefits to leveling, as opposed to "You can swing your sword incrementally faster". It seems like a natural extension of Oblivion's "You can cast Expert Level Destruction magic now" stuff, at least in that regard.

So you like the perks better, what did you think of Morrowinds leveling system? Better yet, what did you like about Morrowind that Oblivion didn't have but Skyrim did?

So you understand where these questions are coming from, let me explain my POV. Oblivion had the same skill level system as Morrowind, just fewer skills but still plenty. Oblivion had the attributes that could be directly altered just like Morrowind. Oblivion had the same means of leveling your skills (ie, use them to level them). So under the hood, Oblivion and Morrowind are more similar to each they other than either is to Skyrim. In fact, on the Bethesda forums, one guy told me that Skyrim is not an RPG at all. I have to to agree that it is less RPG than previous TES games.

 

[Atmos Duality]

I really don't get why so many people, since the game came out have been coming out to announce that the game isn't good to them.

Conversely, I was confused why so many MORE people were heralding Skyrim as Game of the Year...months before it was even released and any of them had played it.

Ignoring the futility of arguing differing opinions for a moment, at least the people who DON'T like the game since it came out are more rational than those who DID like the game before it did come out.

That said. The OP doesn't like the game. There...really isn't much relevant discussion beyond that. I didn't like it; but it's not like that will stop others from potentially enjoying it.

*shrugs*

 

[Angry_squirrel]

there are still good things about it. Some people may not be as willing to discuss why a game is good rather than why a game is bad.

Sure Skyrim MAY have some good things, but I challenge you to tell me what they are, and why they in turn make the game special. Your going to really have to rack your brain and be real imaginative with this one, because there isn't anything good in Skyrim. There are some mediocre things, and there are bad things.

The product of hype and expectation caused a blinding of the audience. Upon release, EVERY bad aspect of the game was ignored, and only now are people coming out and saying "yeh, this was shit".

It's not that we don't like to talk about the good things, its that the good things were actually bullshit and we were all experiencing cognitive dissonance.

By "we" I don't mean me, because I knew the game was a piece of shit when Bethesda didn't even have the foresight to do a straight rip off of MnB's combat.

I find this post very insulting. You're free to dislike the game as you please, but please don't imply that anyone who does like Skyrim is "experiencing cognitive dissonance".

I like the game. If you wish, I could give you a very long list of things I consider good in Skyrim. I'm sure you wouldn't agree. But that's the point: I have my opinion, and you have yours.

 

[Epona]

Sigh. Listen, I was THE first person on this forum who had a negative opinion on Skyrim, because I was one of the first people to have played it here. People went completely nuts when one of the first threads they saw had negative things to say about the game. Thing was, no one COULD say anything about the game yet, because THEY hadn't played it yet. But STILL they decided to attack me and yelled nothing but 'OMG U HAVE 2 B WRONG U R A TROLL FUK U'. Yeah, that pissed me off. For fuck's sakes these people admitted to not having played the game yet. Instead of simply not believing me, and waving it off as 'I don't believe you, I'll see for myself when it's out for me", they told me I was fucking wrong, called me troll, and wanted my head on a spike. Without. Having. Played. Themselves.

Perhaps the reason people called you a troll is because this is the internet, where trolls are common and, while entirely possible you had the game early, you being a troll was a lot more likely.

I think calling people a troll for having an unpopular opinion is being a troll. Being a troll is not more likely, most people on the internet are not trolls and statistically speaking, most people who start threads are not doing it just to piss other people off. That would be trolling.

 

[Duffeknol]

Anyway, a shame, now go get out Mass Effect 1 or 2 and play a truely epic RPG

Currently on my 4th playthrough for part 1, to be followed by my 8th(!!!) for part 2.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

Sure Skyrim MAY have some good things, but I challenge you to tell me what they are, and why they in turn make the game special. Your going to really have to rack your brain and be real imaginative with this one, because there isn't anything good in Skyrim. There are some mediocre things, and there are bad things.

The product of hype and expectation caused a blinding of the audience. Upon release, EVERY bad aspect of the game was ignored, and only now are people coming out and saying "yeh, this was shit".

It's not that we don't like to talk about the good things, its that the good things were actually bullshit and we were all experiencing cognitive dissonance.

By "we" I don't mean me, because I knew the game was a piece of shit when Bethesda didn't even have the foresight to do a straight rip off of MnB's combat.

Challenge a accepted.

Oh Skyrim how I love you, let me count the ways:

1.) Combat: With the edition of a duel wield system I can get even more get even more hack and slash goodness with a sword and an axe, or any other single wield weapon. I can have magicka in one hand shocking the enemy silly while slashing them and setting them on fire with my sword in the other.

2.)DRAGONS!!!! Woooot!! Oh how I love you dragons of randomness. All I was trying to do was resurrect a goat and you had to fly in to yell at me and set my ass on fire, Nords don't like fire by the way. Dragons, I know you have been conspiring with the bears, seeing as I was only trying to explore the area outside Markarth when I get pincher attacked by a dragon surprise landing in front of me and a bear appearing seemingly from nowhere at my back.

But then there are the times that you randomly show up and seem to not care that I'm around more interested in freezing the hair off of a mammoth while a couple wolves valiantly run in and try to stop you.

3.) Pertains to #2: Randomness is fun.

4.) Piles of books, what fun. I've read a few and they can be fascinating. And at the moment I have discovered an stored close to 200 unique books, though obvious there are hundreds more. Then it gets better when one of the books I happened to read becomes relevant when I randomly enter a cave and the main characters of said book end up being part of a quest within said cave.

5.) The sheer joy of crafting my own set of armor with special buffs, something that is usually only seen in MMOs. Oh how I love my glass armor, all golden and teal.

6.) Oh bow, I love you too, how I can use you whenever I want, because arrows weigh nothing and I can carry as many as I want. Oh how fun it is to sneak about in a bandit cave and not a one see you coming all taking one shot arrows to the back of the head or between the eyes.

7.) Oh glitches, I love you as well. Because the majority of you are mostly funny, and get turned into hilarious videos on youtube.

Spoiler: Just an ordinary day.

8.) DRAGONS!!! Woooot!!

I would write more, but food just arrived at my door, so maybe later.

Question though, what the heck are you talking about with this line, "I knew the game was a piece of shit when Bethesda didn't even have the foresight to do a straight rip off of MnB's combat."????

 

[CRRPGMykael]

Fortunantely for myself, I'm one of those people who love to DICK AROUND in the game. Sure, every time I play a game I'm trying to go for the realistic role-playing approach, but what it all comes down to is putting a nude patch, killing everyone and transforming into a dragon whose sole purpose is to kill all chickens in the whole province (which is role-playing OF SOME SORT, if nothing else).

EDIT: I CAN'T GET THIS VIDEO OUT OF MY HEAD. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx6_MWVHZ4g&feature=related THERE'S THE LINK, WATCH IT. IT'S JUST...GARRGH. I'M SORRY, I CAN'T GET IT OUT. IT'S JUST THE BEST VIDEO I HAVE EVER SEEN.

 

[Athinira]

There is lots that Skyrim did wrong. You can criticize a lot of games with ease. In fact (broken record mode) it is a lot easier to criticize a game than to look past criticisms and compliment something.

You can come up with more criticisms for your favourite game than compliments for your least favourite game. I can come up with way more criticisms for Skyrim than I can compliment it, even though I think it is one of the better games of 2011 that I played.

That's funny, because whenever i ask Skyrim fanboys to humor me and critisize the game, they have a very hard time coming up with criticism for it. I wonder how that can be?

And when they finally do come up with criticism for it, it's always that they wanted more of it, which isn't really criticism. It's like being asked "What do you dislike about sex" and replying "I don't think i have enough, and I'd like to have more of it".

Now, i obviously just like every other gamer have a lot of games that i enjoy a lot. But i can critisize every single game i enjoy, including the games that I've played in my time that i consider the very best designed ones ever (which doesn't mean those were the ones i enjoyed the most). I'm the type of person who really NEEDS a well designed game to have ultimate fun. Merely basing a game on a great idea/concept isn't enough, and i can critisize the games i didn't enjoy far more than the games i DID enjoy.

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You see, it's about emotional attachment. People who love a game have a very hard time critisizing it, and people who hate a game have a very hard time complimenting it because those people are emotionally attached. On the other hand, people who are emotionally detached (like me) have no problems doing either. That doesn't mean our opinion is worth more to you than someone else, but emotional detachment helps maintain a less skewered viewpoint.

 

[Imperioratorex Caprae]

And I feel nothing.

This game literally has been one of the most miserable gaming experiences of my life. I was 'lucky' enough to be able to play it a few days before it came out (the PS3 version was already being sold here, and my friend had bought it). I saw the preposterously bad NPC-character animations, the same weightless ragdoll physics, the same pointless and consequence-free gameplay and the same amount of bugs as Oblivion's. I went on this forum to downplay people's INSANE expectations, and got 10+ pages of people calling me a troll and flaming me to death.

From that day forward, I could only see the game's flaws. I couldn't enjoy it. I played through the main story once, did pretty much everything else with another character, but all I felt throughout playing the game was hatred. Nothing I did mattered, because the only consequence ANY of your actions have is sometimes hearing a guard say one fucking other line than 'arrow to the knee'. Now, some people play an Elder Scrolls game as some kind of playground. They don't care. They just download mods and dick around in the world for hundreds of hours, throwing chickens at bystanders and whatnot. Fine. Other people would like an immersive RPG experience, which Bethesda is still unable to provide in any way, since every NPC still acts like a lobotomized robot.

I then proceeded to download the child killing mod and the 'set every NPC to non-essential' mod, since I wanted to be able to go Morrowind on the game's ass. Cause, you have to admit, setting pretty much half of the game's NPCs to essential was just bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sakes, you couldn't even kill most of the beggars. I then literally killed off all of Skyrim's population systematically. This helped deal with my frustration with them not acting like proper NPCs. At least when they were dead they didn't annoy me. But now I'm done, and the game is gone.

I hope I forget about Skyrim, the biggest load of shit I have ever had on my harddrive.

EDIT: Also, enough with the 'so you didn't like it big deal don't make a thread about it'. Shut up.

This is a forum for gaming discussion. I disliked a game and I stated my reasons. I wanted to write this thread because I was frustrated with the game, and after posting it, I felt better. This had led to a discussion.

How about I turn your own weapons against you: if you don't want to read about people having a negative opinion on a game you like, don't click those threads and don't reply. This point is as moot as yours.

I'm not telling you that if you like this game you are wrong, dumb, or anything along those lines. I didn't like this game because of above reasons. If you liked it, I'm happy for you, since you're having fun. If you read more into this post and feel personally attacked, lay off the caffeine.

Your negative opinion is justified. As it is your own opinion, no justification is needed other than that it is how you feel.
I can understand the 'non-essential' mod, being unable to kill essential NPC's can get maddening if they're a majority of the population. The Child Killing Mod I don't really get. Why bother? Is there a need to kill children? Yes I understand they're digital bits and don't exist in the real world but still I just can't see a justification for killing kids. Maybe making them immortal to the PC but not to dragon attacks or psychotic npcs I could get... And don't waste your time justifying why killing kids is ok, even in a video game. There's a reason they don't put it in GTA, Saints Row or any other game. Kids are kids, off limits and it doesn't break immersion to be unable to kill them. Because no matter what you think, you are still controlling the game, even if you are RPing a character, you still are the brains behind that force. Sure I have a 12 year old and sometimes I feel like throttling her for the attitude she gets sometimes, but I don't follow through with it because its wrong, neither would I turn on a mod in a game that has kids to allow myself to by-proxy kill kids.
But thats my view. Other than that part, I can agree with you whole-heartedly that you have every right to feel disappointed and disillusioned with a game that didn't live up to your expectations.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

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I find this post very insulting. You're free to dislike the game as you please, but please don't imply that anyone who does like Skyrim is "experiencing cognitive dissonance".

I like the game. If you wish, I could give you a very long list of things I consider good in Skyrim. I'm sure you wouldn't agree. But that's the point: I have my opinion, and you have yours.

I already gave him a list of seven things so far, above(four posts above) if you want to take a look and approve.

Eight, if you count that I listed dragons twice. DRAGONS!!! Woooot!!

 

[Shavon513]

As a Bioware fan, playing a Bethesda game can feel like a chore at times. I'm used to the awesome storylines and rich characters encountered on the old-fashioned epic journey. A friend told me the Bethesda games are all about falling in love with a world, and not so much the characters and story. Morrowind and Skyrim are awesome worlds, and make up for the crap story telling, poor graphics and vanilla, 'lobotomized' characters. Sadly, Oblivion and New Vegas were so bad, even the world couldn't redeem them.

I can sympathize with the OP as far as New Vegas is concerned. After ten hours of that game, I went back to Gamestop and got as close to a refund as they offer =/

 

[Epona]

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I find this post very insulting. You're free to dislike the game as you please, but please don't imply that anyone who does like Skyrim is "experiencing cognitive dissonance".

I like the game. If you wish, I could give you a very long list of things I consider good in Skyrim. I'm sure you wouldn't agree. But that's the point: I have my opinion, and you have yours.

I already gave him a list of seven things so far, above(four posts above) if you want to take a look and approve.

Eight, if you count that I listed dragons twice. DRAGONS!!! Woooot!!

Dragons aren't even worth a single mention unless this is the first game you've played with dragons in it. It's like getting excited over zombies in a shooter.

 

[Epona]

I have a friend who doesn't like Skyrim either. He thinks it's crap and boring and would probably agree with everything you said.

He did the smart thing and didn't buy it. Can't say the same about you.

Some people hold out hope that the game will get better. Especially considering the massive amount of hype surrounding Skyrim. People were calling it the Game of the Year when it was announced. Reviewers were doing the same thing just before it came out.

I think it's pretty sad when an opinion is invalid because he BOUGHT the game. Just more of the same, cover your ears and say LA LA LA when anyone says anything bad about Skyrim.