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Mistermixmaster

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Whoa, I never knew that people disliked Sucker Punch o_O I thought it was brilliant, and everyone I've talked to about the movie thought it was great. That movie had me drawn in from start to finish really.

Well, everyone is entitled to their opinion, guess mine is a bit different is all.
 

Therumancer

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jackpackage200 said:
and why does everyone think it is great? Sure the visual effects were okay but the bad script and acting just ruined it for me
Hmmm, not many people are saying it's "great", the reviews tend to range from average (or below) to horrible. I rated it as a "just ok" personally.

"Suckerpunch" is basically a really shallow FX movie making pretensions of being a deep movie. They literally explain the entire thing within the first few minutes.

Ultimatly the very beginning of the movie tells you that the story is about an "angel" being sent to save some girl. They then show the "end" of the story involving the girl you saw at the beginning getting lobotomized and are then told she isn't the star, and the story isn't really about her, but if she things she can do better go for it.

The entire movie is basically a giant plot to escape a crooked asylum (well crooked as far as one of them is concerned, I was never entirely convinced none of the girls had genuine problems). The action scenes represent a sort of vision quest, that form a rough analogy to what they are trying to do.

The big gimmick to the movie is that everyone you see in the dream sequences has an analogy to the actual events going on, except for the old guy who actually outlines the plan, and shows up in a vague leadership/mentor role in all of the dreamscapes. Your supposed to think it's entirely in Babydoll's head, except towards the end where she referances the first vision where she had the plan outlined and wondering why it didn't work out and that last bit that was missing before she gives herself up and gets lobomotized.

At the end the one girl who gets away winds up running into that dude driving the bus who saves her.

The movie is only deep in of the fact that you can speculate whether or not the girl getting away was ALSO in Babydoll's mind, but at the same time you have to remember that the events do pass chronologically, and certain referances and dialogue showing who knows what makes it clear that that bit being real is the only thing that makes sense, especially seeing as there is no clear answer to who the guy driving the bus/in the vision is... well unless you paid attention to the narration at the beginning. Basically god was intervening to save that one girl, and the story wasn't actually about the girl that the story focused on, things however are sort of confused due to seeing everything from her perspsective and that focus.


Really it's not that deep if your paying attention, and remember to put things into the perspective your given right from the beginning of the movie. Once you've got the basics down it's pretty much just a way of framing a whole bunch of "Macho Women With Guns" scenes of girls beating the crap out of creepy things.

Honestly, if I had to guess Zak Snyder didn't really pitch the idea as being some kind of magnum opus like some people think. I suspect given his style of cinema he had these really wild action scenes he wanted to do, but couldn't find a way to fit them into the projects he was actually being given. Thus "Suckerpunch" was an attempt to create a narrative for all of these collections of scenes he wanted to do, without bothering to have to find some way to create whole movies around them or find some way of sneaking them into another project. The pitch was probably that the action scenes would be so awesome nobody would care about the rest of the movie, and those that did would probbly be blinded by it's faux-depth. The plan didn't work, the action scenes were awesome, but they didn't carry an entire movie.

Any way it goes, I'd imagine his rep is still hurt because the bottom line is this movie didn't perform all that well. I'm sure his defense is probably going to be "well it was too deep for movie goers" but really I think the actual answer is that movie goers weren't quite as stupid as he thought. He would have done better to create a sort of anthology movie instead of using the approach he did.
 

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I don't get why people don't like the movie. It's pretty much at around the same area of the Alice games, which I happen to like so naturally I like Sucker Punch too.
 

DazBurger

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I really liked Sucker Punch... Mostly for the mind-fuck.

Seriously.. Watch it again and try to figure out whats real. What year is it?


Therumancer said:
Me and a bunch of friends loved it, and came to a much different conclusion.
There is only one girl, there only was one girl, and she ends up lobotomized.
 

IamQ

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It looks (and sounds)good, but I too must say that it's not exactly a great movie.
 

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The problem with Suckerpunch is that the trailer and the hot main characters and all the cosplay costumes were designed to attract absolute fucking retards who are only in the cinema to get a look at dem biddies. Said retards have no understanding of the story and what it represents (I'm not pretending i understand the whole thing, just saying im not totally ignorant) and complain about its complexity, saying it was just a whole heap of bullshit and that what they had come for, the scantly dressed bitches with all the weaponry, bringing all that action, wasn't good enough. Its kind of annoying because Suckerpunch is no where near as complicated as Inception (which itself isn't really that complicated) but no one complains about its fucked up, trying-tp-be-complex-and-interesting-but-not stortyline, when they complain about Suckerpunch. I guess the difference is the action in Inception has a stronger link and impact on the actual story compared to Suckerpunch's dance scenes, so maybe they should have made it a bit more obvious for the previously mentioned retards they were marketing the movie to.

Or, you know, not market it to retards.

As a side note, my complaints about people saying this is a bad movie are based off of the reactions of people i know irl, not just random internet twats. Although i have noticed a few of them, myself included.
 

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I absolutely loved the film. It is not without it's flaws of course, and some things could have been handled better, but I adored the flick.

Take out every fight scene and you have a great template for a film depicting the way that people cope with traumatic stress, by escaping from it with a medium of say, music and dance.
You also have several gaps of representative space to display that characters struggle.

Now, why not fill those gaps with over the top, colourful, spectacular and unique arthouse action sequences?
 

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I loved it.

It didn't hit me until maybe an hour after I'd seen it, but damn.

Other people have gone into specifics about the story, so I'll just say this: Probably the worst thing was how powerful they were in the action scenes, and how this highlighted how powerless they were in reality. It really crushed my soul and I applaud any movie that can get that strong an emotional reaction from me.
 

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the movie kinda sucked, some people (including me) just get rather defensive about it since while bad, it's not the utter pile of shit some make it out to be.
 

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Nouw said:
I was let down by the action scenes; they weren't good at all in my opinion. I would have watched it just for mindless explosions and shooting but it didn't even succeed in that.

Also, I found these shorts based on the enemies and to be honest, they look more interesting than the actual film.

This, make this a film!
Obviously you didn't watch the movie.

This is the movie they made, the only problem is Baby Doll did give up, she did retreat. And things did end.
 

jessegeek

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Paid attention, understood it, got the "multi-layered" plot, still didn't think it was worth it. It is a poor movie, badly written, hammily acted and bizarrely edited. If you want to see what the film was trying to be, play Alice: Madness Returns.
 

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Nouw said:
I was let down by the action scenes; they weren't good at all in my opinion. I would have watched it just for mindless explosions and shooting but it didn't even succeed in that.
All CGI and no live-action make fight scenes a dull boy experience.

... Except for the Kong vs. T-Rexes fight in Jackson's King Kong.
 

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Pretty much everyone had mixed feelings about the movie.

On one hand, it had a magnificent soundtrack, a few very decent action sequences and one of the most atmospheric interludes to a movie ever.

On the other hand, Zack Snyder tried to combine way too many extremely different elements, the plot was a mess, the performances were far from memorable, as was the dialogue and even though there were quite some decent action sequences, there were also a lot of boring and/or irritating ones.

Anyone remember the slow-motion overkill on the FF XIII-esque train sequence?
 

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jackpackage200 said:
why does everyone think it is great?
Where the hell did you get the idea that everyone thinks its great??? Apart from Moviebob it massively bombed in the reviews with many calling it the worst film of the year and got about 20 on metacritic.
 

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kman123 said:
...no one likes Sucker Punch. It's shit. The soundtrack is the best part of it.

EDIT: sorry guys, didn't mean to offend.
Not offended here man, I agree with you. I was invited to go and see it, and after watching a couple of trailers I replied with a resounding 'No, it looks shit.'
 

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Arqus_Zed said:
Anyone remember the slow-motion overkill on the FF XIII-esque train sequence?
All that was lacking in that sequence was the sound of a dentist drill.
 

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I really liked it. It always made me feel good after I watched it. I did buy the soundtrack, that was especially good.