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Vampire rulers no. Very old and powerful vampires that get to make the rules yup. So you would be splitting hairs. In Twilight the Volturi are old and thus powerful. The book doesn't expand on why the correlation exist, but it does mention that they are royalty. In Vampire Diaries the older the vampire is the more powerful it becomes. I respect your opinion, but I must disagree. The Volutri are always looming in Twilight, but take up very little of the four books. The are used to drive the plot. If it weren't for them the plot for the last book would be lost. Having said that they don't appear until the final 50-80 pages or so. They move the plot along without ever having to appear. So yes to some degree they are important, but there just not around often enough in the books for me to agree with the statement that they are the main theme. It's like the shadow monster in that stupid TV show Lost. It's there and people make choices based on it's presence, but you almost never see it, and it really doesn't do much.
 

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MelziGurl said:
spartan231490 said:
MelziGurl said:
Daipire said:
MelziGurl said:
I never have been able to understand why vampires MUST be scary. The myth may have been started that way, but it's just that...a myth. It looks at vampires from a different perspective...what is so wrong with that?

I liked the books more than the movie, though I generally like books more because they explain more. I am a fan of anything vampire though, I don't set standards.
You realise that vampires were originated from a man called Vlad, right?

Now, this Vlad, is the reason vampires exist, and he wasn't a very calm and peaceful guy. This man has about 8 paragraphs on "Methods of Execution" in Wikipedia, he was such a sick bastard he'd invite friends to dine with him, eating turkey and drinking red wine around a pile of corpses. Now, you might not know who I'm talking about, but this man is more frequently called 'Vlad the Impaler'. If you're thinking, "that's not that scary", you're probably thinking of an Impala.

This is an impala.
http://myanimalblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/impala-07.jpg
And this is an impaler
http://net.lib.byu.edu/estu/euro/erdely/impaler.gif

Now, if you're saying to me, that a demonic beast spawned from tales about a demonic man, shouldn't be scary?

Meyer either wanted to cash in on people who got excited by 'a vampire romance', or is unimaginative enough to change an already existing myth to suit her fantasies.
Where at all did I say they shouldn't? I didn't say they shouldn't or couldn't but they don't HAVE to be scary. It doesn't matter who bloody created the creature or where it originated from, the creature is still myth and one of many different myths at that. It's not real, until someone can whip a vampire out of their areshole that proves pure evil with no gentle qualities whatsoever then the myth can be re-defined however an individual sees fit.
Dracula originated from Vlad the Impaler.
Vampires originated from how peoples gums, hair folicles, and cuticles retracted when they died, making it appear as though thier teeth, fingernails, and hair were still growing. As well as poor medical technology causing people to be buried whilst still alive and then breaking out of the coffins, ect. This led to the believe that these people were actually undead, who knows where the other parts of the legend (read: death by sunlight, stake, blood sucking, ect.) came from.
And once again, as I pointed out before...it doesn't matter where it originated. A vampire is still myth and can be recreated like it has been for many years.
I agree with you, I was arguing with the guy who said vamps have to be scary because they came from vlad the impaler.
 

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spartan231490 said:
MelziGurl said:
spartan231490 said:
MelziGurl said:
Daipire said:
MelziGurl said:
I never have been able to understand why vampires MUST be scary. The myth may have been started that way, but it's just that...a myth. It looks at vampires from a different perspective...what is so wrong with that?

I liked the books more than the movie, though I generally like books more because they explain more. I am a fan of anything vampire though, I don't set standards.
You realise that vampires were originated from a man called Vlad, right?

Now, this Vlad, is the reason vampires exist, and he wasn't a very calm and peaceful guy. This man has about 8 paragraphs on "Methods of Execution" in Wikipedia, he was such a sick bastard he'd invite friends to dine with him, eating turkey and drinking red wine around a pile of corpses. Now, you might not know who I'm talking about, but this man is more frequently called 'Vlad the Impaler'. If you're thinking, "that's not that scary", you're probably thinking of an Impala.

This is an impala.
http://myanimalblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/impala-07.jpg
And this is an impaler
http://net.lib.byu.edu/estu/euro/erdely/impaler.gif

Now, if you're saying to me, that a demonic beast spawned from tales about a demonic man, shouldn't be scary?

Meyer either wanted to cash in on people who got excited by 'a vampire romance', or is unimaginative enough to change an already existing myth to suit her fantasies.
Where at all did I say they shouldn't? I didn't say they shouldn't or couldn't but they don't HAVE to be scary. It doesn't matter who bloody created the creature or where it originated from, the creature is still myth and one of many different myths at that. It's not real, until someone can whip a vampire out of their areshole that proves pure evil with no gentle qualities whatsoever then the myth can be re-defined however an individual sees fit.
Dracula originated from Vlad the Impaler.
Vampires originated from how peoples gums, hair folicles, and cuticles retracted when they died, making it appear as though thier teeth, fingernails, and hair were still growing. As well as poor medical technology causing people to be buried whilst still alive and then breaking out of the coffins, ect. This led to the believe that these people were actually undead, who knows where the other parts of the legend (read: death by sunlight, stake, blood sucking, ect.) came from.
And once again, as I pointed out before...it doesn't matter where it originated. A vampire is still myth and can be recreated like it has been for many years.
I agree with you, I was arguing with the guy who said vamps have to be scary because they came from vlad the impaler.
My apologies, I misinterpreted.