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Chaosut

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Crumblebumble said:
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zauxz said:
I think that is one of the reasons why RPG is my favourite genire.
Yeah true, RPG's are a bit of a saviour for SP people.
Completely. That's why I can't ***** about JRPGs and further limit my choices!

I really hate how a load of the achievements on XBL are for online playing. It makes me feel like I haven't finished the whole game because I'm inadequate when really it's because I don't want to go online and get my ass shot off by a 13 year old screaming, "HA HA, NOOOOOOOB!" in my ear.
Lol, i feel exactly the same. I generally do XBL achievements just to increase the length of a game, and often give up on any hard ones pretty quickly, however i also get fed up that at least half of them are for MP. It's a real slap in the face for people who just don't want to play MP.
 

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I agree 100% chasut. Longevity in form of multiplayer seems to be the priority of must developers these days. Sometimes less is more, and a solid short singleplayer will often leave a bigger impression on me than the countless of samey multiplayer sessions.
 

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For some reason I prefer RTS against an AI... probably cause I can kick their ar** and feel smug and superior lol. But yeah I know what you mean, single player doesn't get enough attention these days... needs to be waaaaay longer for one.

Multiplayer seems like a tad of a gimmick to me nowadays, I hardly ever do it anymore
 

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Some of the earliest examples that fit your bill of enjoyment were "Warcraft II", and "command and conquer" <- yes the original, and "the covert ops" add on.

those games focused on the story mode, single player campagin, and you felt like you really accomplished something as you progressed. yes there 'were' online support via tcp-ip and LAN, but they were add-on flavor, not the sole focus.

I didn't enjoy Warcraft 3 because thought the story wasn't bad, it felt like it was just "better graphics" and a really sorry "your hero or you're dead" style.

Some state they don't like the RTS game genre but honestly try the game:
Perimeter!!
This game is a hidden jewel for the single-player enthusiast and has a very long campaign.

Other games you might want to consider are Icewind Dale, or Baulder's gate.
 

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Yudas said:
I agree 100% chasut. Longevity in form of multiplayer seems to be the priority of must developers these days. Sometimes less is more, and a solid short singleplayer will often leave a bigger impression on me than the countless of samey multiplayer sessions.
:) cheers, i agree 100% with what you say also. Playing repeated sessions of 'shoot the other online player' get's really bland. It just seems that so many games these days seem to place alot more focus on MP than SP, which is a real shame :(.
 

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Resistance 2 and Killzone 2 are two major guilty parties of this; Resistance 2 felt 'okay' in terms of length, but was shorter than Fall of Man. Killzone 2 ended halfway through.

When you look at how much single-player the older games throw in compared to their modern counterparts, it is shocking... and even more so when you factor in quality.
 

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Actually i dont think games get their story mode neglected by the MP mode, i think it is more of an issue with better graphics, better design, better phisics

because if i recal correctly, MP haves "some" content but it is not a game in its own, or at least i dont feel that way
 

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Far Cry 2 had a pretty long SP campaign but most of it was from the high amount of travel involved but it was fun
 

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Retrofraction said:
i always liked how single player allowed you to save and leave on most games.

L4D takes 30-20 mins to Finnish a level
I'm sure it's a typo, but you said 'Finnish' instead of 'finish' and I got images of crazed Viking hordes descending upon the zombies in L4D. Maybe that's just me.
 

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I love good singleplayer games, usually WRPG's but you can't dis good MP it lasts so many hours of pure win.

take cod 4, seen as a good singleplayer game, but I finished it in 1 day. been playing MP for days so how can SP ever beat MP?
 

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After lots of happy times together between me and Singleplayer I one day wake up to find she has left without so much as a note and not even saying goodbye. That broke my heart :'(

Okay seriously I agree to some extent, this goes especially for me as I can't get much multiplayer as Xbox Live connection at my house is simply impossible. So therefore the closest I can ever get is Gears 2 with all bots. Fun for a while but...

So yeah it does hurt when games neglect single player time for expansion of multiplayer like in say Halo 3 (GASP, VREX JUST MADE A CRITICISM TO HALO 3, QUICK CALL THE PRESS) where because of the addition of the four player co-op the campian had to be shorter.
 

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Vrex360 said:
So yeah it does hurt when games neglect single player time for expansion of multiplayer like in say Halo 3 (GASP, VREX JUST MADE A CRITICISM TO HALO 3, QUICK CALL THE PRESS) where because of the addition of the four player co-op the campian had to be shorter.
The press has been called, it should be in the papers by morning.
 

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Hamster at Dawn said:
I like coop campaigns best. They have everything you get in SP (minus a bit of immersion admittedly) plus you get the social factor from MP and you only play with one or two friends so there's no whiny 5 year olds or obnoxious racists.
This. I feel the same way.
 

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Hamster at Dawn said:
I like coop campaigns best. They have everything you get in SP (minus a bit of immersion admittedly) plus you get the social factor from MP and you only play with one or two friends so there's no whiny 5 year olds or obnoxious racists.
exactly my thoughts, but the problem these days is the exclusion of local co-op playing. I don't want to have to system link or go online to play with the person next to me, and only a handful of the games recently have actually given me local co op.
 

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Chaosut said:
zauxz said:
I think that is one of the reasons why RPG is my favourite genire.
Yeah true, RPG's are a bit of a saviour for SP people.
I used to be a shoot em up kind of player untill mp hit it big. Now RPGs are my favourite type of games.
 

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Iwamori said:
Yeah, if you're looking for some decent single player games RPG/RTS are your best bet. Most shooters these days are pretty much entirely focused on the multiplayer experience. The COD/Crysis/Serious Sam/Painkiller series are pretty decent single player fps experiences though, look into those if you haven't already.
I cannot emphasise enough how much you should look into Serious Sam.
 

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Chaosut said:
This is actually not as much of a rant as it might initially seem. Also i'm not trying to convince anybody that singleplayer is superior or anything, because it's just a matter of preference, but i've always found multiplayer (especially online) to be less to my tates.
Alot of games these days seem to have online multiplayer as a large portion of the game (alot of the time more than half), which is cool, but sometimes the singleplayer get's neglected. I guess one of the things i've always thought about a game are the story, the characters and the immersion. Though in most MP there's no real use/need for a story or in depth characters. Also i've always found just personally that MP also lacks immersion because it becomes much more of a competition to try and pwn other players, but SP is just about your experience which you can (most of the time) do at your own pace.
The other thing i've realised i don't enjoy as much about MP, which i've realised mostly after playing L4D, is that it realies alot on playing with people who are; not pricks, about your experience level and if it's team based, then good team players (which is very much the case in L4D as you probably already know). And online play often means i end up relying on the good will and decent personality of the wonderful online gaming community, which usually turns sour.
It can just be a bit dissapointing when games like L4D or Halo 3 (no i'm not trying to turn this into a Halo bashing session) are 90%/95% about multiplayer, when really i want to focus on SP. Okay, sure you can play the campaign in Halo 3 but it's pretty short, and you can play with bots in L4d but they just plain suck.
But anyway, as i said, this is just based on my preferences, i'm not putting down MP or anything.
i agree the games are getting much shorter fore the multiplayer and the single player is more fun in some games and the game sucks in the multi.i don't have internet on mine PS3 so i can't play a multiplayer game on that
 

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It's a shame that there are a lack of single player games that are heavily based on the single player. It's nice to have mulitplayer but as you said, if it decreases the single player experience it sucks