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eclipsed_chemistry

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Hi guys,

So I'd like everyone's opinion on this since I'm really conflicted in this matter and don't really know what I should do about this. So here's the deal, last Friday during finals, the stress and anguish of school and things going on in my personal life reached a breaking point and I grabbed a large kitchen knife and attempted to ram myself through the abdomen with it. After a few mostly unsuccessful attempts, I thought about what I was doing and realized that I needed help, so I dropped the knife and went straight to my school's counseling office and talked to a counselor about everything I'd been going through recently.

After some helpful advice and guidance, we decided that it would be best if I spent the night in a psychiatric facility to get some more help and to ensure that I was safe until I was ready to go home. After the first day, I was dying to get out of that place (seriously, that place was awful) but the only way I could leave is if I had a family member or close friend pick me up from the hospital to watch over me that night. Since it was the last day of our finals when I tried to commit suicide, most of my friends were gone and I wasn't ready to tell my parents about this. My only option was contacting a fellow classmate whom I'd sat next to the whole quarter and had some (not many) conversations with and felt generally comfortable with. The only thing was, I didn't know how she'd react once she found out I was in a psychiatric ward, so after wrestling with what to do for several hours, I finally decided that she was my best shot and I'd give her full disclosure and see what happened. So I called her, I told her that I was in the hospital, I was in a psychiatric facility being treated because I attempted to take my own life, and did she still want to pick me up because I'd fully understand if she didn't, and then the most amazing thing happened. Without the slightest hesitation, she says, "I'm on my way right now" and she came and got me.

Then, when she got me from the hospital, she didn't ask me anything other than "Are you hungry? Let's get something to eat" and didn't say anything about me trying to commit suicide. She just let me talk when I was ready and was really, really cool about the whole thing. She asked me why I chose to give her full disclosure and I told her that I had to let her know just in case she wanted to run the other way once she found out what I was in there for. She just laughed and acted like everything was perfectly normal.

That alone would have been more than enough, but then she took me to her apartment and let me stay over that night, making sure I was comfortable and safe. The next morning, she took me to my apartment and even came with me while I faced the place where I attempted to kill myself just a day or two before. Then every day after that, she called me to see how I was doing and to see how my day was. This is where I'm torn. Call it the Florence Nightingale Effect, but the amount of caring, understanding, and affection she's shown for me has been incredible, and has completely transformed her from "random classmate girl" to "extremely close friend/trusted confidant" in just a short amount of time. I can't thank her enough for what she's done for me, and I know I can never repay her for how safe and comforted she's made me feel, and maybe I'm confusing feelings here, but I think I'm in love with her.

Now I'm not just a crazy kid who thinks he's in love because a pretty girl finally notices him, we've talked before and I always thought she was interesting. We both love animals, we have similar career goals, she's very social and outgoing and has told me she enjoys talking to me and values my opinions and insight. We have similar upbringings, had similar high school experiences, both love comic books, love the same tv shows, watch a ton of movies, and in general get along very, very well, I just never really paid much attention to her during class. So, bottom line, I don't know whether to pursue a serious relationship with her and risk a (potentially) lifelong friend, or to just thank her for what she's done and remain a close friend to her without pursuing anything at all.

I apologize for the lengthy explanation, but it's important for me to put this into words and to try and give you, the readers, the clearest picture possible on this whole situation. So what do you think, fellow Escapists, should I go for the downs, throw caution to the wind, and be the best damn boyfriend I can be? Or, should I take the prudent route and just be her friend until she needs me?

Edit: Sorry about the wall of text, this is the first time I'm translating this into words, and it got kinda lengthy. Secondly, I want to clarify something here. I don't really have "suicidal tendencies", I mean, this is the first case of mental health issues in my family, I've never been treated nor have I been diagnosed with clinical depression before this, and this is the first time I've even so much as thought about hurting myself in my life.
 

Sacman

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I don't know what to say... I got over my suicidal tenancies before I tried to develop any kind of relationship...
 

ExplosionProofTaco

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Oh Gee, this looks like a good thread, OH GOGHGHGHGH! *Drowns in wave of text*

Just ask her out.

There really needs be a sticky entitled 'Looking For Relationship Advice?' of which only contains the words 'NO, SHUT UP. JUST ASK HER OUT DO IT' in the largest font possible.
 

AcacianLeaves

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It doesn't seem like you're in a place where you can form a healthy relationship at the moment. I'd wait until you sort things out in your own life before you bring someone else on board. Just be friends and do some soul searching to find out what you want out of life, and why you really were trying to get out of it. Maybe once you're healthy a relationship will form naturally, but until then just focus on yourself.
 

crotalidian

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First impressions:

1. She cares for you but you don't know in what way, you started out with full disclosure so if you want to tell her how you feel I'd stick with that.

2. No matter how cool she has ben about what you are going through she may feel pressured because she will not truly know your mental state and may worry that rejection will send you into another downward spiral (this as you can tell is not good for either of you)

3. Going for it: I suggest that if you want this to happen you shouldn't rush it (see point 2) but you obviously can't wait too long or you miss your opportunity, if you have a really good connection with this girl then hopefully you will both pick up the signs and it will grow mutually

4. Sticking with what you have: you may have just found yourself the greatest friend you will ever have and losing that could be a terrible thing. As with everything like this there is a risk but (as in point 1) honesty may be the best policy

Suggestion:

Offer to take her out for dinner, nothing OTT or too romantic but a chilled place you both like, have dinner with her, laugh enjoy the evening and act on impulse as it goes (dont get too drunk). I'd give this a bit of time before you run this but it may be the best way of finding out what you two have

Personal Experience:

Not quite the same, but I was casually dating a girl when her best friends twin sister committed suicide, when she found out she was missing she called me (still do not know why but there you have it). I could've run a mile but I stuck with her while she dealt with it. I wasn't sure how it was going to end as I worried that the feelings would be lopsided in the relationship. I noticed however that my fellings grew while we were together and befor eI knew it I was in love with her, that was last summer. I have been separated from her by an ocean since february but we are waiting for me to be able to return to the USA so we can move in together and start a life as a couple. We are best friends and madly in love, so it CAN happen, but in your situation I advise caution first.

(sorry for long reply but had a lot I wanted to cover!)
 

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eclipsed_chemistry said:
After some helpful advice and guidance, we decided that it would be best if I spent the night in a psychiatric facility to get some more help and to ensure that I was safe until I was ready to go home. After the first day, I was dying to get out of that place (seriously, that place was awful)
They are awful for a reason apparently, it's too sort out the nutcases from the real nutcases. I had a friend to went through all sorts of problems and ended up on one of those wards, and thought she was mentally fucked up. Then she saw the other people in the ward, and decided she wasn't anywhere near as bad as the other patients, and it helped her turn her life around.


Sounds like you've got a brilliant friend...and from what you tell me she maaaay quite like you, but of course i havn't seen this with my own eyes so it's hard to judge. I'd suggest you subtly investigate wherever she'd want to date you. If your confident enough, try to some gentle flirting and see what happens.

You could try this: Tell her you want to go somewhere (say...cinema), see what she say's. If she she's interested, then ask her if she wants to invite anyone. If she doesn't want to invite anyone, you've got a date. If she invites her friends, your're in her friendzone :p

[sub]Disclaimer: If this doesn't work, i'l warn you now that i'm not the most qualified of persons to give this sort of relationship advise.[/sub]
 

ExplosionProofTaco

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RAKtheUndead said:
ExplosionProofTaco said:
Just ask her out.

There really needs be a sticky entitled 'Looking For Relationship Advice?' of which only contains the words 'NO, SHUT UP. JUST ASK HER OUT DO IT' in the largest font possible.
If you'd read the big wall of text, you would see that this is just about the worst thing he could do.
Fine.

A Sticky with the words.

'NO, SHUT UP. JUST ASK HER OUT DO IT'

ANNNNNNNDDD

'CHICKS AREN'T EVERYTHING, DOOD'.

There. Sroblem Polved.
 

blankedboy

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I'd just go with the flow. I assume she's suddenly alot closer to you after a suicide attempt, she almost definitely knows it was a HUGE moment in your life, and she's doing her best to comfort you. Judging by your wall of text (which i DID read, shut up), I'd say she might be coming onto you.

Be aware that this is just peer analysis, I've never been in a relationship myself and don't have any of my own experiences to relate this to, but, I like to help :)

Ima go get food now.
 

b15h4m0n

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letterbomber223 said:
Most importantly of all: Ignore Everyone's advice. Especially mine.
Yeah, that. If she values your insight, that's the ability you should use to make a decision. Maybe you don't trust yourself, but apparently she does. I don't think she'll get offended when you tell her about your doubts and desires.

Throw a dice or a coin, use a pendulum or tarot if you can't make up your mind.
 

Blackadder51

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Wow, you did better then me you acknowledged you had a problem and decided to get help.

Anyway, wow thats quite something. If i were you, just start to hang out with this girl more doesnt have to be date-y things, but like movies and walks, msn etc (well actual yeh date things -.-) and if the feelings grow maybe try to introduce the fact just DO NOT move to fast. Think things over, use logic, and if all else fails be honest and open and tell her what has happened, from what i gathered she does care so hell it couldnt be bad. But of course if she doesnt like you that way, well...things tend to fuck up.

Well i doubt that helped but yeh, my two cents.
 

eclipsed_chemistry

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Ross Perot said:
If you ask her and she says no, you could always CUT your losses and move on! What's the harm in that?
This is true, and in the grand scheme of things, you're probably right, but the main thing is I'd either like to keep her on as a friend or to foster some kind of meaningful relationship with her since she's been there for me and I feel like she understands me. Maybe I'm going too far with this last point, but maybe she's what I need right now.
 

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ExplosionProofTaco said:
RAKtheUndead said:
ExplosionProofTaco said:
Just ask her out.

There really needs be a sticky entitled 'Looking For Relationship Advice?' of which only contains the words 'NO, SHUT UP. JUST ASK HER OUT DO IT' in the largest font possible.
If you'd read the big wall of text, you would see that this is just about the worst thing he could do.
Fine.

A Sticky with the words.

'NO, SHUT UP. JUST ASK HER OUT DO IT'

ANNNNNNNDDD

'CHICKS AREN'T EVERYTHING, DOOD'.

There. Sroblem Polved.
Really?

God, if you are that insensitive or hate these threads so much do not post. You do not have to post.
 

eclipsed_chemistry

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RAKtheUndead said:
eclipsed_chemistry said:
Call it the Florence Nightingale Effect, but the amount of caring, understanding, and affection she's shown for me has been incredible, and has completely transformed her from "random classmate girl" to "extremely close friend/trusted confidant" in just a short amount of time.
It's this. It's definitely this. A similar thing happens with psychiatrists who give counselling; you extrapolate certain feelings and misinterpret this for love. It would be an extremely dangerous thing to try making a relationship out of this. You need proper psychiatric help, to talk to your parents and to sort this situation out properly.

A relationship built on psychological problems is dangerous. It's just delaying the inevitable. If you're at all interested in preserving your life and happiness, DO NOT TRY TO FORM A RELATIONSHIP WITH THIS GIRL. It's as much for her sake as it is for yours.
I agree with this to a certain extent, but could you clarify what you mean by "It's just delaying the inevitable" and "preserving my life and happiness?" I mean, I realized that this (the Nightingale Effect) COULD actually be what I'm feeling as soon as I wrote it, but I need time to think about it, consider the facts, and determine whether this is really the case or not. But you could be right, and both of our safety/happiness are paramount in my considerations, I can guarantee you that.
 

Arachon

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Do you have like a counsellor you could speak with? Or a psychiatrist? The one at your school still available? You might want to talk with them first, as they hopefully have some sort of training in the matter, and knows how it should be dealt with. Ask how to proceed, if you should tell this girl about it or not. As RAK mentioned, it may very well be a "by-product" of your mind at this stage, which, if followed, might lead into further unpleasantries.
 

eclipsed_chemistry

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ExplosionProofTaco said:
Oh Gee, this looks like a good thread, OH GOGHGHGHGH! *Drowns in wave of text*
lol yeah, sorry about that, like I said, this is my first time putting my thoughts into written form so I was just kinda throwing out ideas as they came to me.