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Jeez I leave for work and I see my topic has turned into a political bout. Though you gotta love Amnestic and his tendencies towards a good quote battle. *applause*

Anyway, I placed this here because it wasn't long ago that this site came up and Joe the Plumber has some post-election duties.

BTW, if you don't like politics don't post on a political topic; if you haven't noticed it's all about the smear tactics.
 

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x434343 said:
You've proven my point of not thinking again. Thank you!
Have you read Obama's policies? Tax people who make somewhere between $100000 and $200000 a year HEAVILY. Give no taxes to below. Take more from rich, give more to poor. And Communism is redistribution of wealth. Now, let's do the math. If you tax the rich heavily, then you get money. If you give to the poor with the rich money, you... have redistributed wealth.
He wants to get rid of Amendment 2, the Right to Bear Arms. Which has not been eliminated because it's there for one purpose: The people, in a time of crisis, can use the arms to overthrow the government. No other reason. If you take it away, you are saying "MY GOVERNMENT IS RIGHT. YOU CANNOT DESTROY IT. IF YOU DO YOU WILL BE CHARGED WITH A FELONY AND IMPRISONED" (Because the Death Penalty will be "inhumane")
First off I want to call you a major fucking hypocritical idiot.

Redistributing wealth is not communist. It's SOCIALISM. Communism is the most extreme form of socialism. Socialism is an important thing of our market. i.e. minimum pay and age restrictions in the work force.

Lastly, the right to bear arms is irrelevant in the modern era. The 2nd amendment was created to hang bear a to protect your home and land in a militia because in the time the constitution was created because the army was few and far between.


edit: forgot this

x434343 said:
On one final note, I was talking to 2 Democrats about the fact that "Republican Party dead", and I brought up the fact that we had great people like Reagan and Lincoln. They claimed Bush had deleted all their achievements. Meaning slavery is legal and the USSR is back in business, so I shot off that Clinton undid FDR's great achievements, which shut them up.

If you're dumb and political, either Get Smart or do not get political.
Comparing Bush and Lincoln together is fairly ignorant in itself. The Republican party when Lincoln was elected was for a large government as opposed to the modern republican party which is small for a smaller government.

Maybe you should follow your own advice.
 

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x434343 said:
God why do people moan and ***** and complain about McCain being a bad person and such, but fail to realize that they've
A. elected a guy with the middle name Hussein (Not a big deal? What if it was Hitler?)
B. Elected a guy who will fuck the tax rates up
C. Elected a guy who might Establish Commu-Merica
D. Elected ......

etc.

If you're dumb and political, either Get Smart or do not get political.
You, sir, are the most bigoted person i have come across my extensive forays across the interwebs. A pox on your house.
You probably believed that stupid chain e-mail, saying Obama was lying about having a catholic grandmother, ignoring the fact that people have at least two grandmothers (i say at least to allow for adoption, parental remarriage, etc.).
Get a clue, brain-stem or an original opinion.

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x434343 said:
I just think not all of America knew that his middle name was Hussein. If they did, maybe some would have thought differently.
Not everyone's an idiot
Or a bigot. Big Fucking Deal if Hussein is a Muslim name. who gives a shit? bigots like you, x434343, and no-one else. All this anti-muslim sentiment is a result of wartime propaganda. 8 years ago, you wouldn't even have cared if Osama bin Laden had come over to your house selling cookies with girl scouts! Hell, you republicans were shooting huge sticky wads over the guy after he threw the Russians, or "Commie Bastards" as you would term them, out of Afghanistan, because everyone knows that Afghanistan is one small step away from Saudi Arabia, and that's where all the oil is. Face it, your shit has been ruined.

EDIT: Go Democrats.
 

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sorry, accidental double post. edited above post instead, but can't delete this post. sorry again
 

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if, just for the sake of argument, his name HAD been "barack housein hitler"... well wasnt adolf hitler famous for being a RACIST (against everyone who wasnt white) genocidal maniac? and, correct me if im wrong here but barack obama looks kinda dark skinned(so does his wife). it almost makes me suspect that he has family in africa... probaly a few generations removed, but i bet if you ran DNA tests... im guessing a nazi wouldnt marry a black person unless they were in DEEP cover, in which case they likely WOULDNT seek media attention by, say, running for president.

also, it would be greatly appricated if no republicans ever spoke again, your like fucking trolls but more pathetic because you actually beleive it. if your a fiscal conservative, you probably have some good points, but if your a republican PLEASE for the love of god (Which you claim to if you are) shut your fucking mouth.

also, isnt his father currently suffering from a mild case of deadness that he acquired some time ago? i am not entirely sure about this one, but i think i heard something about it somewhere

and if somebody is going to get government handouts i would rather it be welfare moms than oil barons, i find it odd that its capitalism and free market when we give out no bid contracts to friends of our leaders and give them tax cuts and subsidies when they are already breaking record profits, but its communism in the worst way possible when the money goes to people who can actually use it. thats probably me just being an elitist(which IMO shouldnt be used as an insult, but this is probably an elitist statement so disregard it) east coast ivy leage educated(GOD DAMN SMART PEOPLE!) communist nazi who slaugers kittens in her sleep and laughs manically about it. which is odd considering im on the west coast and im going to a community college atm... but then, im in fake america, so i guess that does make me east coast and ivy leage educated via magic.
 

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I think that this thread might be just a bit off-topic right now. In response to the original post, I can't believe that this guy is still newsworthy. A while ago, I heard that he didn't like the spotlight. Then he hired a publicist, made campaign appearances, and generally did things that a celebrity would do. Now he has his own website? Where will it end?

Also, "no, Obama's not a Muslim. He's a good family man." WTF? Since when does being a Muslim mean you can't have a regular family? Is Muslim a slur now? If it is, then I am disgusted.
 

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gmer412 said:
I think that this thread might be just a bit off-topic right now. In response to the original post, I can't believe that this guy is still newsworthy. A while ago, I heard that he didn't like the spotlight. Then he hired a publicist, made campaign appearances, and generally did things that a celebrity would do. Now he has his own website? Where will it end?

Also, "no, Obama's not a Muslim. He's a good family man." WTF? Since when does being a Muslim mean you can't have a regular family? Is Muslim a slur now? If it is, then I am disgusted.
I agree with the "Since when does being a Muslim mean you can't have a regular family?" sentiment. I mean, El-Hajj Malik El-Shebazz (Malcolm X) was a family man, and a muslim.

Additionally, I too am appalled at the thought that someone's religion is the only thing with which people form an opinion about others. see post 44, and the best way to beat shit-eating bigots is right there.
 

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x434343 said:
Another thing: Names, people. Names suck, and I know Hussein is a Muslim name. I just think not all of America knew that his middle name was Hussein. If they did, maybe some would have thought differently.
If people did, if people honestly did think differently and cast their votes differently because the mans middle name sounds muslim I think it would be one of the most tragic reflections on American society.

Ever.

It would be wrong for so very many reasons.

I mean, muslim sounding or not, when choosing one candidate over the other, name really shouldn't come into it. No matter what it is.
 

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Secure the dream for people who make $250,00+ a year? Is that their point? Because that is what Joe the non-Plumber made(he really was NEVER a plumber). Oh yes, lets stick up for the rights of the rich. It is such a good thing to do. Especially these days when it seems to be a favorite sport of the rich to screw the lower and middle class people into a deeper hole than they have ever been. So fuck the middle and lower classes! Stick up for the rich. That is what this nation needs!
 

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x434343 said:
His father is a chief Financial Advisor in Kenya. Not much of a degree of separation. So, if his father were to come along and ask for some cash to help the country buy more arms, Obama would say:
A. "Yes, papa."
B. "But of course."
C. "Indoubitably."
D. "Awww jeah!"

Take your pick.

I'm dead serious. I don't fuck around with politics.
His dad is dead, dipshit. And has been for 26 years.
 

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Milford Cubicle said:
x434343 said:
His father is a chief Financial Advisor in Kenya. Not much of a degree of separation. So, if his father were to come along and ask for some cash to help the country buy more arms, Obama would say:
A. "Yes, papa."
B. "But of course."
C. "Indoubitably."
D. "Awww jeah!"

Take your pick.

I'm dead serious. I don't fuck around with politics.
His dad is dead, dipshit.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!! Thanks for pointing that out because that guy is a moron.

There is so much bigotry going around these forums it makes me sick. But then why should i be surprised? Bigotry and racism will last forever.
 

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Hahahahaha
When people get into arguments with Americans its funny.
Whem Americans fight with Americans its funnier.
Btw, what did the plumber even do??

Hooray for Australia and our Prime-minister who looks like he's 5.
 
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I hate to sound like a jerk, but why should we care about some website? It almost seems like this was brought up just to start a political flame war, in my opinion.
 

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Who cares who won the election anyway?! We all know Obama and McCain were in cahoots to steal the Hope Diamond from underneath the Smithsonian Museum. Or something...
 

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x434343 said:
Amnestic said:
Not to, you know, say "Self-contradictory" or anything...but seriously? I knew a guy in school with the last name Hussein. Did I suspect him of having ties to Saddam? Not really, because that would be pants on head retarded. If Obama's middle name was Hitler I wouldn't care. I'm sure that before Adolf there were dozens of Hitlers who weren't genocidal pricks. I couldn't say so much afterwards, I'm fairly sure most people with the last name Hitler would have changed their name away from it to avoid ignorant bigots like yourself.

As opposed to electing McCain who might establish EmpireMerica with himself as the self-appointed Emperor? Or McCain who might murder off the entire population? Or McCain who might have sex with a donkey? Really, your comment is baseless.


I'm four degrees of separation from both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden. Three from George Bush. I have ties to not only a famous terrorist but also the soon-to-be Ex-President of the united states. What's your point, precisely?

Honestly your entire post reeks of what I'd hope to be sarcasm but going by what I've seen of some people you might actually be serious. And that's so goddamn depressing it's untrue.
First off, we have been in a war for 7 years, and we just last year offed a guy who tested chemical weapons in northern Iraqi towns because they supported Iran more than Iraq. Another thing: Names, people. Names suck, and I know Hussein is a Muslim name. I just think not all of America knew that his middle name was Hussein. If they did, maybe some would have thought differently.

You've proven my point of not thinking again. Thank you!
Have you read Obama's policies? Tax people who make somewhere between $100000 and $200000 a year HEAVILY. Give no taxes to below. Take more from rich, give more to poor. And Communism is redistribution of wealth. Now, let's do the math. If you tax the rich heavily, then you get money. If you give to the poor with the rich money, you... have redistributed wealth.
He wants to get rid of Amendment 2, the Right to Bear Arms. Which has not been eliminated because it's there for one purpose: The people, in a time of crisis, can use the arms to overthrow the government. No other reason. If you take it away, you are saying "MY GOVERNMENT IS RIGHT. YOU CANNOT DESTROY IT. IF YOU DO YOU WILL BE CHARGED WITH A FELONY AND IMPRISONED" (Because the Death Penalty will be "inhumane")


My point on the political ties to Kenya. It's not like, his friend knows a guy who knows a guy who has a second cousin that knows a guy who's grandfather's uncle's cousin's friend's son is a political person in Kenya.
His father is a chief Financial Advisor in Kenya. Not much of a degree of separation. So, if his father were to come along and ask for some cash to help the country buy more arms, Obama would say:
A. "Yes, papa."
B. "But of course."
C. "Indoubitably."
D. "Awww jeah!"

Take your pick.

I'm dead serious. I don't fuck around with politics.
I find your position about names rather annoying. The guy was born in Hawaii and grew up in Chicago. Obama didn't pick his middle name. He's not a Muslim, and even if he is, what's so damn wrong with a Muslim president?

Straight up capitalism works quite well on paper, as does straight up socialism. I'm sure all Republicans are aware of the problems of Socialism, so I won't go into them. Both extremes are flawed; you cannot have a society that functions purely on capitalism. People who have no money do not just sit down and starve to death like they would on paper; leaving the successful. They steal. You need to keep the poor fed.

Obama only increases the taxes on those making more than a quarter million per year. Do you really make that much?

Obama is indeed against assault rifles. You are correct here. But aren't we all? Is there any reason you need an M4 to protect yourself with? Perhaps we need a couple more Virginia Tech's or Columbines before we realize this. The founding fathers did not write the 2nd Ammendment so that the government they were founding could be overthrown.

I mean, why stop there? If you're going to overthrow the government, you're going to need more supplies. Maybe Wal-mart should start stocking up on nuclear bombs and M-72 anti-tank rocket launchers.

As for your comment about being a thinking Republican, are you really? If so, what's your problem with Obama's name? Why should his name enter into the equation? Should Muslim people not be elected to public office?

America is quickly becoming a theocracy.
 

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Kaotixthought said:
Hahahahaha
When people get into arguments with Americans its funny.
Whem Americans fight with Americans its funnier.
Btw, what did the plumber even do??

Hooray for Australia and our Prime-minister who looks like he's 5.
Actually, he looks like Mr. Sheen
 

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PsyberGoth said:
Kaotixthought said:
Hooray for Australia and our Prime-minister who looks like he's 5.
Actually, he looks like Mr. Sheen
That's nothing, our president look like Conan O'Brien, and our president is a woman. Wtf = Welcome to Finland.