I really don't like Deus Ex: HR

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LookingGlass

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Manji187 said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Manji187 said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
2. The boss fights. Sure, stick my stealth heavy character with pretty much no armor in a small room with a massive tank who can turn invisible for unlimited amounts of time, jump over every wall, has about 50 times more health than me, has a gun that kills me in one hit, etc. I am all for challenges in games, and I love hard boss fights (the end boss of Titan Quest is an example of a boss done right, IMO) but theres a fine line between difficult and unfair. Deus Ex doesnt slip a toe across the line, it jumps over it and keeps running. Ridiculous, I cannot comprehend why the developer thought this would be a good idea. (Although, I have to mention, once I invested in Typhoon the bosses became a piece of cake).
Wanna know something funny?

Wow. Really? Holy shit. Thats.... Interesting.

Honestly, you cant blame me for not knowing that though.
Hey...I didn't know it either. My fight was like close to ten minutes....exploding magnum rounds and all (yeah, I missed plenty of times).
Mine was me running around him for 20 minutes dying about 10 times until I said fuck it, finally bought that Typhoon augment and owned him in 3 hits.
You could use typhoon there? I thought all my augs were toast for that boss fight.

I ended up frag mining his ass until I ran out, firing a few crossbow bolts, then I frag grenaded his ass into oblivion.

Next time he's definitely getting the Falcon Punch though.
 

LookingGlass

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
LookingGlass said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Manji187 said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Manji187 said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
2. The boss fights. Sure, stick my stealth heavy character with pretty much no armor in a small room with a massive tank who can turn invisible for unlimited amounts of time, jump over every wall, has about 50 times more health than me, has a gun that kills me in one hit, etc. I am all for challenges in games, and I love hard boss fights (the end boss of Titan Quest is an example of a boss done right, IMO) but theres a fine line between difficult and unfair. Deus Ex doesnt slip a toe across the line, it jumps over it and keeps running. Ridiculous, I cannot comprehend why the developer thought this would be a good idea. (Although, I have to mention, once I invested in Typhoon the bosses became a piece of cake).
Wanna know something funny?

Wow. Really? Holy shit. Thats.... Interesting.

Honestly, you cant blame me for not knowing that though.
Hey...I didn't know it either. My fight was like close to ten minutes....exploding magnum rounds and all (yeah, I missed plenty of times).
Mine was me running around him for 20 minutes dying about 10 times until I said fuck it, finally bought that Typhoon augment and owned him in 3 hits.
You could use typhoon there? I thought all my augs were toast for that boss fight.

I ended up frag mining his ass until I ran out, firing a few crossbow bolts, then I frag grenaded his ass into oblivion.

Next time he's definitely getting the Falcon Punch though.
I didnt get the new chip because I thought something was fishy, if you mean that. That stupid ***** pushed the button and Jensen just stood there and asked "Let me guess, this is the part where im meant to fall to my knees and beg?" like a boss.
Ah yeah that's right, I forgot about that. I figured I'd take the XP and deal with the consequences later.
 

Baneat

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LookingGlass said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
LookingGlass said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Manji187 said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Manji187 said:
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
2. The boss fights. Sure, stick my stealth heavy character with pretty much no armor in a small room with a massive tank who can turn invisible for unlimited amounts of time, jump over every wall, has about 50 times more health than me, has a gun that kills me in one hit, etc. I am all for challenges in games, and I love hard boss fights (the end boss of Titan Quest is an example of a boss done right, IMO) but theres a fine line between difficult and unfair. Deus Ex doesnt slip a toe across the line, it jumps over it and keeps running. Ridiculous, I cannot comprehend why the developer thought this would be a good idea. (Although, I have to mention, once I invested in Typhoon the bosses became a piece of cake).
Wanna know something funny?

Wow. Really? Holy shit. Thats.... Interesting.

Honestly, you cant blame me for not knowing that though.
Hey...I didn't know it either. My fight was like close to ten minutes....exploding magnum rounds and all (yeah, I missed plenty of times).
Mine was me running around him for 20 minutes dying about 10 times until I said fuck it, finally bought that Typhoon augment and owned him in 3 hits.
You could use typhoon there? I thought all my augs were toast for that boss fight.

I ended up frag mining his ass until I ran out, firing a few crossbow bolts, then I frag grenaded his ass into oblivion.

Next time he's definitely getting the Falcon Punch though.
I didnt get the new chip because I thought something was fishy, if you mean that. That stupid ***** pushed the button and Jensen just stood there and asked "Let me guess, this is the part where im meant to fall to my knees and beg?" like a boss.
Ah yeah that's right, I forgot about that. I figured I'd take the XP and deal with the consequences later.
Just take 200 conbat rifle rounds and the homing system, lock and Line of Sight round a corner and fire till the lock is gone.

Easy kill.
 

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It's funny how I came back here (actually, not at all) - a hilariously awesome batman comic from reddit led me back. Anyway, I`m sorry that misspelling made you cringe, but just so you know, I`m not indirectly referring `nobody`, but directly referring to the OP that is `Knobody13`. Hopefully that clears some things up for you, cheers.
 

SolidBooty

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You must be really dense if you can`t figure out 2-5 misspelled words, and only 1 of them is 90% of the misspellings. Sorry if a few words ruin your day, but if it bothers you so much, then try and take the high road for once, you might feel good about yourself.

RELAX. You`re raging over a video game, and grammar. You`re basically telling everyone who has an individual opinion or expression that their opinion is wrong. People like you need to grow the fuck up.

And FYI, though I don`t entirely like the game, I`m still playing it because hell, I haven`t truly played the game until I`ve beat it, right? I was expressing some ideas about the game, like you even said in your post, (something like)`this opinionated debate should be up for discussion on the game.` WHICH WAS MY POINT - A DISCUSSION ON THE GAME, not discussion on spelling. There`s plenty of dictionary sites for you people to go to.

I`m glad to see a lot of people have gotten over the `you`u`thing. It`s ridiculous that people dedicate their fantastic brain knowledge `crushing` (think Deus Ex dialogue option) people`s grammar instead of thinking of their written opinion and saying `Hey, I agree with that` or `MMM, not so much...`

And I know it`s freshly out, and I might be alone on this, but I`m becoming a HUGE fan of Dead Island maybe not GOTY but an honourable mention or something. Anyone else?
 

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I still have not finished Deus Ex: Human Revolution... but I do feel an urge to participate, as in NOW. The first responses to OP's post were quite surprisingly negative and unreflected, especially for a forum that usually seems to like it nice and clean and entertaining, wielding an unforgiving banhammer in the most righteous manner imaginable.

So I went on playing Deus Ex: HR, thinking I'd come back here once I'd finished it.

Then it happened... I don't know what exactly, I wasn't upset or annoyed by anything very specific in particular. I just got somewhat bored and annoyed. I just couldn't bring myself to play it anymore, for a whole week already now.

So, I still haven't finished it. But what I did - and that amazes me more - is this: I dug up the old Deus Ex, and installed that decade-old game on my squeaky clean modern day computer... and I liked it. Imagine that: A game that came out when, what, Windows ME and Windows 2000 were new, installs on Windows 7 totally hassle-free? Wow.

In fact, I liked it so much I am still playing it as time allows, and I am quite amazed at how entertaining playing Deus Ex (the ugly old one) turns out to be, despite its ugliness or technical flaws that were appalling even ten years ago. Deus Ex: Human Revolution, the spliffy new one, sure had me anticipate and expect and wonder, but somehow these games are not just a decade, but really lightyears apart - the atmosphere of the first one just didn't get ported to the new one. Maybe modern ways of making games just don't allow for that special bit, that soul, that spirit to really materialize. The graphics are neat, granted. But it's what is usually bound to happen when people turn, say, Golden Axe or X-COM or Syndicate into yet another FPS experience, no matter how much adventure they tack on to that mostly same old same old action vehicle.

But Deus Ex was already an FPS-style, 3D, "action-RPG" rainbow serving of something awesome, something new... first impressions had it look and feel like crap compared to even significantly older titles, such as Metal Gear Solid or even some of those hand-pixelled Beholder or Dungeon Master titles, all spiced up with the mean big siblings of Robocop's ye olde ED-209. These walking machines of destruction could be disabled by the tricky and sneaky, or blown up by the folks who were happy just to lug heavy explosives around, but make one mistake and they would perforate you into a bloody pulp before you could do something about it.

What Deus Ex did right was this: it was fun to play, it felt fresh and new to be able to test the boundaries of the game, the virtual world. It was a fun sandbox to run and sneak and jump around in, and with more and more augmentations it felt like Neuromancer Super Mario. Yes, physics were frustrating at times, but the story felt amazing, even if I only now, ten years later, take the time to actually read all those newspaper and book text snippets. It is still a royal pain in the rear to drop or throw things to where you actually want them to be, and I forgot about the elves that would remove all my stolen flags and flowers and pots and things from my office once I left through the front door. Still, coming back after ten years makes me respect Deus Ex (the ugly one) even more - I see things, tidbits, mechanics that would later come back even in completely unrelated titles like Fallout 3.

Don't get me wrong, I am not bitter, not really missing much of the old gaming days, except maybe that there was far more room for experimental and new types of games, beyond FPS and tacked-on online-multiplayer. I do hope I will finish Deus Ex: Human Revolution eventually, and I am grateful it made me go back and have another look at the original, which really is a remarkable title and a great game.