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Heyyy, I saw Hail, Caeser! And observed that Alden Ehrenreich was by no means a bad actor. Coen Brothers do consistently have a taste for talent in their cast, so all the faf around the filming rumours concerning him didn't make much sense until learning that it was yet more hysterical miscommunications.
Maybe I'll check it out on DVD eventually. The cast are all people I appreciate and space movies in space need more movies in space for sure, with the restraint on fan-service a bonus. I just find it hard to feel any enthusiasm for a Han Solo film that doesn't exactly promise any inspiration or fresh ideas. I mean come on...it's space! Infinite possibilities! Right? Do they at least include a black-hole on screen at any point? I need me more black-holes in my space films, but people seem to shy away from this, perhaps because it might require some effort in imagination. Embrace the eternal maw of annihilation, god damnit! Throw in a quasar for good measure too.
 

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Xsjadoblayde said:
Do they at least include a black-hole on screen at any point?
Not technically a black hole, but they do encounter a gravity well that they have to strive to break free of. Lots of red light and all that.
 

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Xsjadoblayde said:
Heyyy, I saw Hail, Caeser! And observed that Alden Ehrenreich was by no means a bad actor. Coen Brothers do consistently have a taste for talent in their cast, so all the faf around the filming rumours concerning him didn't make much sense until learning that it was yet more hysterical miscommunications.
Maybe I'll check it out on DVD eventually. The cast are all people I appreciate and space movies in space need more movies in space for sure, with the restraint on fan-service a bonus. I just find it hard to feel any enthusiasm for a Han Solo film that doesn't exactly promise any inspiration or fresh ideas. I mean come on...it's space! Infinite possibilities! Right? Do they at least include a black-hole on screen at any point? I need me more black-holes in my space films, but people seem to shy away from this, perhaps because it might require some effort in imagination. Embrace the eternal maw of annihilation, god damnit!
As a matter of fact they it does include something kinda like a black hole!
 

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Xsjadoblayde said:
Heyyy, I saw Hail, Caeser! And observed that Alden Ehrenreich was by no means a bad actor.
Yeah, I don't get that either. And even in the context of the film itself, people seem to be missing the point. Hobbie isn't a bad actor, it's just that his acting skills (Westerns, singing, the lassoo trick), are a poor fit for a serious drama. Put him in the films he's good at, and he does quite well.
 

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As a matter of fact they it does include something kinda like a black hole!
Well, concessions to meet halfway may be made. It'll have to do, am not an entirely unreasonable mammal on a good day with sufficient snacks and a funky bloodstream.
 

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Hawki said:
Yeah, I don't get that either. And even in the context of the film itself, people seem to be missing the point. Hobbie isn't a bad actor, it's just that his acting skills (Westerns, singing, the lassoo trick), are a poor fit for a serious drama. Put him in the films he's good at, and he does quite well.
Oh dear, I didn't consider that people may have just taken his role as a struggling actor in the film seriously as validation for such rumours in real life. Silly humans.
 

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Oh dear, I didn't consider that people may have just taken his role as a struggling actor in the film seriously as validation for such rumours in real life. Silly humans.
Y'know, the whole bear/humans thing worked better when we had avatars. :(

(FFS, when is quote/avatar functionality coming back?!)
 

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Hawki said:
Xsjadoblayde said:
Oh dear, I didn't consider that people may have just taken his role as a struggling actor in the film seriously as validation for such rumours in real life. Silly humans.
Y'know, the whole bear/humans thing worked better when we had avatars. :(

(FFS, when is quote/avatar functionality coming back?!)
You can turn back avatars on under profile - Forum and Notification Option - Disable Avatar - "No".

The quote notification do seem to be broken, though.
 

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You can turn back avatars on under profile - Forum and Notification Option - Disable Avatar - "No".

The quote notification do seem to be proken, though.
My kitty kat! He's back! Yay!

Thank you mister...um...what is your avatar anyway?
 

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Hawki said:
PsychedelicDiamond said:
You can turn back avatars on under profile - Forum and Notification Option - Disable Avatar - "No".

The quote notification do seem to be proken, though.
My kitty kat! He's back! Yay!

Thank you mister...um...what is your avatar anyway?
That's the great american director, painter and all around rennaisance man David Lynch. Who, to relate it back to the topic at hand, was once offered to direct Star Wars: Return of the Jedi by George Lucas himself and refused.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQ4vCu-S0U&t=42s
 

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Hawki said:
Y'know, the whole bear/humans thing worked better when we had avatars. :(

(FFS, when is quote/avatar functionality coming back?!)
Huh, that's weird. Everybody's avatars and mottos are showing for me including my own, but when I click on my profile everything is blank and missing there. I do not know which one is the observed reality.
 

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
Hawki said:
PsychedelicDiamond said:
You can turn back avatars on under profile - Forum and Notification Option - Disable Avatar - "No".

The quote notification do seem to be proken, though.
My kitty kat! He's back! Yay!

Thank you mister...um...what is your avatar anyway?
That's the great american director, painter and all around rennaisance man David Lynch. Who, to relate it back to the topic at hand, was once offered to direct Star Wars: Return of the Jedi by George Lucas himself and refused.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQ4vCu-S0U&t=42s
Yeah and took on Dune instead. You'd think David would know better.
 

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Johnny Novgorod said:
PsychedelicDiamond said:
Hawki said:
PsychedelicDiamond said:
You can turn back avatars on under profile - Forum and Notification Option - Disable Avatar - "No".

The quote notification do seem to be proken, though.
My kitty kat! He's back! Yay!

Thank you mister...um...what is your avatar anyway?
That's the great american director, painter and all around rennaisance man David Lynch. Who, to relate it back to the topic at hand, was once offered to direct Star Wars: Return of the Jedi by George Lucas himself and refused.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJQ4vCu-S0U&t=42s
Yeah and took on Dune instead. You'd think David would know better.
Well, he only had two feature length movie under his belt at that point and Elephant Man seems like a project that shouldn't have worked out as well as it did. He took the risk and paid the price. I can kinda see why some of the books themes appealed to him, shame that the movie ended up the way it did. It's a pretty good book, you know.

Hopefully Villeneuve does better. It deserves a decent adaptation.
 

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
And I'm kinda wondering, are people really already sick of Star Wars? It's been only about 3 years of the series being back, yet people still watch three of those fucking Marvel Studios movies a year. Am I missing something? I mean, at least Star Was has been fairly consistently good for the last few years.
That's cause the MCU fanbase isn't as old and cancerous yet as Star Wars' -- They're still riding that fresh excitement train.


And it's the fanbase that's really forcing the Star Wars fatigue to set in. A new movie every year, means not only the annual fangasming, but more importantly the annual jilted fan brigade. Seriously, count how many videos there are complaining about the Prequels, The Force Awakens, and The Last Jedi. Everybody's spewing their bile, and right after TLJ released and a new wave of nerd vommit started gushing I just wanted Star Wars to fucking go away, all of it. And I hadn't even seen TLJ yet.


There's an atmosphere of hatefullness surrounding this franchise from within the fan community, and it's just tiring to be exposed to it every fucking year. And I don't even give a damn about Star Wars, yet this endless bullshit keeps getting thrown in my face.
 

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PsychedelicDiamond said:
Seriously, count how many videos there are complaining about the Prequels, The Force Awakens, and The Last Jedi.
Don't forget them writing off A New Hope and Return of the Jedi in favor of putting Empire Strikes Back on a pedestal as if the other 2 have nothing going for them. And just so you know A New Hope was nominated for Best Picture, Empire Strikes Back wasn't. I wonder why hmm?

But yeah Star Wars just needs a Reboot into something better than this bloated rotting carcass of a franchise who's entire universe is held up by fanfiction and not from George-y boy.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Don't forget them writing off A New Hope and Return of the Jedi in favor of putting Empire Strikes Back on a pedestal as if the other 2 have nothing going for them. And just so you know A New Hope was nominated for Best Picture, Empire Strikes Back wasn't. I wonder why hmm?
Stanley Kubrick's movies were never nominated for Best Picture either. It doesn't mean much.


And yes, Empire was better. A New Hope is still good, but not as good. And Return of the Jedi was just trash.
But yeah Star Wars just needs a Reboot into something better than this bloated rotting carcass of a franchise who's entire universe is held up by fanfiction and not from George-y boy.
I'd rather the whole franchise just fucking disappear for at least the next 10 years.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Don't forget them writing off A New Hope and Return of the Jedi in favor of putting Empire Strikes Back on a pedestal as if the other 2 have nothing going for them. And just so you know A New Hope was nominated for Best Picture, Empire Strikes Back wasn't. I wonder why hmm?
Stanley Kubrick's movies were never nominated for Best Picture either. It doesn't mean much.


And yes, Empire was better. A New Hope is still good, but not as good. And Return of the Jedi was just trash.
But yeah Star Wars just needs a Reboot into something better than this bloated rotting carcass of a franchise who's entire universe is held up by fanfiction and not from George-y boy.
I'd rather the whole franchise just fucking disappear for at least the next 10 years.
I didn't like the Han Solo/Leia half of the Empire Strikes Back.

And the start of Empire Strikes Back was way too slow, everything kicked into gear once The Battle on Hoth started.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Casual Shinji said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Don't forget them writing off A New Hope and Return of the Jedi in favor of putting Empire Strikes Back on a pedestal as if the other 2 have nothing going for them. And just so you know A New Hope was nominated for Best Picture, Empire Strikes Back wasn't. I wonder why hmm?
Stanley Kubrick's movies were never nominated for Best Picture either. It doesn't mean much.


And yes, Empire was better. A New Hope is still good, but not as good. And Return of the Jedi was just trash.
But yeah Star Wars just needs a Reboot into something better than this bloated rotting carcass of a franchise who's entire universe is held up by fanfiction and not from George-y boy.
I'd rather the whole franchise just fucking disappear for at least the next 10 years.
I didn't like the Han Solo/Leia half of the Empire Strikes Back.

And the start of Empire Strikes Back was way too slow, everything kicked into gear once The Battle on Hoth started.
You didn't like the Wampa run. Its meant to show Luke getting better at Jeding! Sometimes I wonder how the originals would do if they were released today, particularly under the current level of internet scrutiny. I usually come up with - not good.

Before they are captured on Cloud City, the Falcon shenanigans is just filler so Luke can train. What a waste of time. Also, Lucas cant write a love story to save his life
 
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I have a question about the visual side of the film. Cinematography is important to me, and can sometimes elevate otherwise mediocre movie. Does "Solo" really look as dour and murky as in promotional footage?
It's extra confusing for me, because even Rogue One had moments of looking stunning, yet a movie that poses as much more lighthearted and humorous looks so... dull.

Johnny Novgorod said:
Boy did I not care for that Social Justice Droid. Whether I was supposed to laugh at it or feel emotional, it missed its mark big time.
Funny thing about that. I've read somewhere that there's a droid called L3-37(l33t) in the movie. That was enough for me to think "Yep, i'm gonna hate that character". Only later i learnt it was the same social justice droid people were harping about.

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Now, there was one character that actually rubbed me the wrong way, which was a robot named L3 that travelled with Lando. See, this robot cared about the liberation of Droids in a way that was obviously meant to invoke a sort of civil rights activist. The movie consistently treated this as a joke. For one because I fehlt like this was a legitimite grievance. Droids are sentient and they are treated as slaves in that word so it's not like this was some made up nonissue that we, as the viewer, are meant to recognize as such. Overall it felt like the sort of joke meant to pander to the type of person that would use the term "Social Justice Warrior" unironically I thought it was a bit tonedeaf..
Huh, i've seen more complains about her(?) from the usual suspects criticizing anything seemingly progressive in new SW.
Might be a case of Disney trying to have its cake and eat it, resulting in a character that appeals to no one.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
Samtemdo8 said:
Don't forget them writing off A New Hope and Return of the Jedi in favor of putting Empire Strikes Back on a pedestal as if the other 2 have nothing going for them. And just so you know A New Hope was nominated for Best Picture, Empire Strikes Back wasn't. I wonder why hmm?
Stanley Kubrick's movies were never nominated for Best Picture either. It doesn't mean much.


And yes, Empire was better. A New Hope is still good, but not as good. And Return of the Jedi was just trash.
But yeah Star Wars just needs a Reboot into something better than this bloated rotting carcass of a franchise who's entire universe is held up by fanfiction and not from George-y boy.
I'd rather the whole franchise just fucking disappear for at least the next 10 years.
Make it 20 and you got yourself a deal.