Games, inherently involve restrictive rules and limit-testing strategies, while toys are for fantasy and free play.Mechanix said:
A ball is a toy, but football is a game for instance
I Think Gaming Needs a Renaming....
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A ball is a toy, but football is a game for instance
I think gaming is a nice term actually. I find it more fun to poke on gaming genres.
MMORPG is usually the most fun one.
For example we can take the easy approach and cut out all things we know by looking at the box, this can go down to two letter descriptions such as OR (Online Roleplaying) or MR (Multiplayer Roleplaying).
- If you want a suggestion though, how about 'Entertainment Software', lol
MMORPG is usually the most fun one.
For example we can take the easy approach and cut out all things we know by looking at the box, this can go down to two letter descriptions such as OR (Online Roleplaying) or MR (Multiplayer Roleplaying).
- If you want a suggestion though, how about 'Entertainment Software', lol
I?ve heard this in a lot of different places lately but I don?t really buy it. General perception has little to do with a name and even if it did, grown people often play games. Some even play video games... In bars and other places, kids don?t generally go into. Hell some grownups get paid to play games.Adam Gadal said:
I don?t think the name is holding it back and all the replacement names I?ve heard sound pretty pretentious. One way to worsen the general perception is to try and get people to take it too seriously... More seriously than it deserves to be. There?s already too many people that take gaming too seriously.
No, I think the best way to improve the perception of games and gamers is for gamers to start acting more responsibly.
This includes:
Don?t act like a dbag with the headset on.
Don?t fall for every money grubbing scheme the publishers, platform developers, and retailers like gamestop comes up with ? you don?t need to pay for a game in full a year before it comes out. While we?re at it the dbags at gamestop need to stop acting so elitists to non-gamers... It just makes them seem more pathetic.
Don?t fall for the hype so much.
Learn that it?s okay to be critical of something you patronize. I enjoy playing my ps3 but I?m also extremely disappointed with it.
Demand value for your dollar.
In other words, if gamers were more savvy consumers, they might be taken more seriously.
I don't think the word "entertainment" should be in there. Already there are a lot of people who think games aren't art, they're entertainment, as if the two are mutually exclusive or something. Though the word "interactive" definitely should. It may be easiest to just go with "interactive art," but I don't think that would be best.
A university I know calls their game studies "playable media." I think that might work.
Really though, gaming doesn't need a new name; it needs an academic name. Just like movies have the term "film," to which it is referred in circles that study and care about it. Video games will always have a game-like quality to them, and that's fine; what we need is a term for a specific study of games as an art form rather than games strictly as games, and it will be used in the academic and research circles that really matter, and as a result, by those who may not belong to those circles but really admire and enjoy the medium.
A university I know calls their game studies "playable media." I think that might work.
Really though, gaming doesn't need a new name; it needs an academic name. Just like movies have the term "film," to which it is referred in circles that study and care about it. Video games will always have a game-like quality to them, and that's fine; what we need is a term for a specific study of games as an art form rather than games strictly as games, and it will be used in the academic and research circles that really matter, and as a result, by those who may not belong to those circles but really admire and enjoy the medium.
Won't work, and is also unnecessary.
Comic Books are probably the best example. Renaming them Graphic Novels does nothing except show how desperately you're trying to convince people that what your reading is not a comic book, really...
People who call Comic Books Graphic Novels for the sole purpose that they think it sounds somehow 'smarter' or 'more mature' are like people who bought the 'adult' covers of Harry Potter. I refer of course to wankers and pretentious gits.
For the same reason, people who started calling Video Games Interative Entertainment would just give off the stench of someone trying desperately to justify their hobby. And if you feel like you have to justify it, then you should probably evaluate how your self-esteem is tied to other people's approval.
If you like something, call it what it is and screw anyone who thinks it's childish. I read comic books, I play video games and I have absolutely no misgivings about either.
Comic Books are probably the best example. Renaming them Graphic Novels does nothing except show how desperately you're trying to convince people that what your reading is not a comic book, really...
People who call Comic Books Graphic Novels for the sole purpose that they think it sounds somehow 'smarter' or 'more mature' are like people who bought the 'adult' covers of Harry Potter. I refer of course to wankers and pretentious gits.
For the same reason, people who started calling Video Games Interative Entertainment would just give off the stench of someone trying desperately to justify their hobby. And if you feel like you have to justify it, then you should probably evaluate how your self-esteem is tied to other people's approval.
If you like something, call it what it is and screw anyone who thinks it's childish. I read comic books, I play video games and I have absolutely no misgivings about either.
I think this said it best. Every time someone posts something like this they always come up with something just sounds... not bad, but wordy and sounds like it's trying to hard. I somewhat agree with the idea of renaming, but I really don't think a good solution is going come from just thinking about it.Vault101 said:
Also, lesser point but you know what else is an interactive entertainment? Sports. Hell, even reading and using your imagination is interactive on some level.
Well let's sum this up. The usage of of the newly so called "Interactive Entertainment" aims at what? Fun!
What does the word game imply? Fun!
Besides: Entertainment won't in the least better the genres stand, because what is called entertainment today? Dull TV Programmes and more alike. Why do we always need to try to redefine the value of things by renaming it, even when the whole content remains the same, that is, having fun in a simulated (non-)reality.
So: Deal with it. I think it is not the sake of the name that is to be dealt with but with the perception of it in the eyes of non-gamers.
(Won't find an end) besides: nearly everything aiming at fun by active participation is called game. think of it
What does the word game imply? Fun!
Besides: Entertainment won't in the least better the genres stand, because what is called entertainment today? Dull TV Programmes and more alike. Why do we always need to try to redefine the value of things by renaming it, even when the whole content remains the same, that is, having fun in a simulated (non-)reality.
So: Deal with it. I think it is not the sake of the name that is to be dealt with but with the perception of it in the eyes of non-gamers.
(Won't find an end) besides: nearly everything aiming at fun by active participation is called game. think of it
A someone who hates this push for games to be seen as art (as well as the term "Graphic Novel") I see nothing wrong with the terms Gaming and Gamer. As time goes on, like the film and comic industry before it, those that like games and see them as acceptable and relevant material will increase and those that don't will decrease. The problem is everyone is too impatient.
Why? What do we care? Why should we care? Whenever anything fun comes along there is going to be haters who hate it. Will make up blatant lies about it to define it as evil. SO you can either take the low road and feed the trolls or you can take the high one and ignore them and let things continue and enjoy it inspite them. Afterall they haven't had any effect on D&D, movies, music, or comics. Everyone of these things not only were called evil and demonized by a small number but evolved and grew inspite them. Everytime a gamer gets their panties in a bunch because someone dismisses games they are just feeding the fire not helping the evolution.Kavachi said: