I think I found the most pretentious video game review site ever.

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JourneyThroughHell

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zeldagirl said:
A) My point is, just because it's obvious to you doesn't automatically make it pretentious.
The way it presents itself makes it so.

zeldagirl said:
B) Again, missing the point. Yes, change the whole system to develop *a new way to study* and more importantly, and new way to *learn* and retain knowledge. They didn't say this was a foolproof plan, but they are making an effort to step in the right direction for our educational system.
No, they're making videos for the Internet that nobody but gamers watch.

A 6-minute video of WTF concepts is not an effort.


zeldagirl said:
c) Oh. I see. You don't value people encouraging you to play *good* games? Because it's somehow wrong to want to encourage consumers to buy well-made products? And they don't encourage valuable discussion, despite the fact that many people on this site seem to disagree and actively talk about the subjects they discuss (and furthermore, share their videos with non-gamers to promote different kinds of discussions)?

And you're telling me *they* are the pompous ones?
Exactly. I don't value people encouraging me to play "good" games when they're "good" by their definition. If I want to play Blacksite, who the hell are they to tell me that game is bad and I should stop me and my friends from buying it.

That phrase, depending on how you view it, is either extremely obvious or frankly mean-spirited. I watched that video, as well as a bunch of other EC videos, and I'm leaning towards the second one.

Also, I hate to break out the "ESCAPIST WAS BETTER BEFORE" card, seeing how I have only been here for less than two years, but what happens in the EC threads is not my idea of interesting, valuable discussion.

So, yes, they are the pompous ones.
 

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JourneyThroughHell said:
zeldagirl said:
A) My point is, just because it's obvious to you doesn't automatically make it pretentious.
The way it presents itself makes it so.

zeldagirl said:
B) Again, missing the point. Yes, change the whole system to develop *a new way to study* and more importantly, and new way to *learn* and retain knowledge. They didn't say this was a foolproof plan, but they are making an effort to step in the right direction for our educational system.
No, they're making videos for the Internet that nobody but gamers watch.

A 6-minute video of WTF concepts is not an effort.


zeldagirl said:
c) Oh. I see. You don't value people encouraging you to play *good* games? Because it's somehow wrong to want to encourage consumers to buy well-made products? And they don't encourage valuable discussion, despite the fact that many people on this site seem to disagree and actively talk about the subjects they discuss (and furthermore, share their videos with non-gamers to promote different kinds of discussions)?

And you're telling me *they* are the pompous ones?
Exactly. I don't value people encouraging me to play "good" games when they're "good" by their definition. If I want to play Blacksite, who the hell are they to tell me that game is bad and I should stop me and my friends from buying it.

That phrase, depending on how you view it, is either extremely obvious or frankly mean-spirited. I watched that video, as well as a bunch of other EC videos, and I'm leaning towards the second one.

Also, I hate to break out the "ESCAPIST WAS BETTER BEFORE" card, seeing how I have only been here for less than two years, but what happens in the EC threads is not my idea of interesting, valuable discussion.

So, yes, they are the pompous ones.
Nobody but gamers watch, at first maybe. But you realize how often that video was linked? It was even featured on a few news sites - it got a lot of TEACHERS' attention. So, more than just gamer. And yes, 6 minute video, but that doesn't mean it doesn't generate discussion - on and offline.

You're right, taste is subjective - but the overarching message is *demand good products* - technically, artistically, and entertainingly (don't know if that's grammatically correct, but it's 3am and I don't care).

Heh, you just sound like a curmudgeon. "Back in my day!" *waves cane* I've only ever seen EC be extremely affable and accessible. If that's pompous to you, good riddance.
 

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zeldagirl said:
Nobody but gamers watch, at first maybe. But you realize how often that video was linked? It was even featured on a few news sites - it got a lot of TEACHERS' attention. So, more than just gamer. And yes, 6 minute video, but that doesn't mean it doesn't generate discussion - on and offline.

You're right, taste is subjective - but the overarching message is *demand good products* - technically, artistically, and entertainingly (don't know if that's grammatically correct, but it's 3am and I don't care).

Heh, you just sound like a curmudgeon. "Back in my day!" *waves cane* I've only ever seen EC be extremely affable and accessible. If that's pompous to you, good riddance.
I take it those teachers were also mostly gamers. You know.

Also, I just sound like a curmudgeon, huh? I guess you haven't seen many on this site. All in good time.

There's a difference between "accessible" and "condescending". This show is Escapist's Avatar.
 

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Wolfram01 said:
Then don't call it a review.
No, call it a freaking review. Call it a terrible effing review, because under any circumstances this is a horrible effing review. By any's standards!
I mean if he wanted to write some short story, fine! But he has a freaking job on a review site, that means that he better effing get some good reviews. That's like if you're a movie director and you want your film to be a book.
 

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I'll admit, that website's reviews are a lot more interesting than almost every other review I've ever read. Then again, that doesn't mean that they're good.
 

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Dr Jones said:
Wolfram01 said:
Then don't call it a review.
No, call it a freaking review. Call it a terrible effing review, because under any circumstances this is a horrible effing review. By any's standards!
I mean if he wanted to write some short story, fine! But he has a freaking job on a review site, that means that he better effing get some good reviews. That's like if you're a movie director and you want your film to be a book.
I liked it, and I understood all his points from it. Its not a bad review, is just not presented the same as everyone else's. It still discusses the mechanics, but there's nothing wrong with discussing the feeling of a game.

If all you want to know about is mechanics, then that's fine, but the review is not bad because it doesn't discuss criteria specific to you. People must obviously read it, so obviously people feel they are doing a good job. Its not like he's writing for a massive site like IGN.
 

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Pretty decent story, horrible review. If he takes down the "grade" at the end of the game he might get more positive feedback.
Not impressed, either way.
 

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Palademon said:
From what I could be bothered to read, this guy hasn't played a game before and therefore can't understand how only your actions accomplish anything.
If anything he was seeming a little too much like H.P. Lovecraft with his writing. He focuses all his points and attention to the little detail so much that eventually the big picture loses it's impact at all.

Dude was just nit-picking and while I'll admit he had a point about all the cars miraculously stopping for you, (Seriously I dare you to try and pull that crap in L.A. without getting flattened)
It seems he might have lost his main point along the way. At least Lovecraft has the courtesy of returning to completely "Skull Fuck" you with another gruesome image to keep your interest just as you recover from the prior one and start to lose interest in the story.
 

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Yeah dude I'm fairly sure that People are entitled to hate it (obviously they're wrong =P) but they're entitled to say that, just ignore it.
 

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Didn't read much of the review, but what I did read - it seems to be written in a film-noir-narration style. Considering the game he's reviewing, I don't see what the problem is, its just a little different than the millions of dreary "THIS GAME HAS AWESOME GRAPHICS AND... BLAH BLAH BLABITTY BLAH" reviews that fill the internet. :)
 

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I found this website a few weeks ago...

...because some of it's articles get posted on Pitchfork:

http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/7982-kill-screen/
 

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I LOL'd !!

Obnoxiously pretentious and really a dickhole of dimensions.. I will probably have to follow all his articles from now on, just to verify whether he's an idiot or just a phoney cultivated snob.
 

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Nautical Honors Society said:
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Wow, it looks like Yahtzee has lost the pretentious bastard of the year award to who ever wrote that. that guy is a grade A twat.
Check out his review of stacking...look how he formatted his paragraphs.

http://killscreendaily.com/articles/reviews/review-stacking
... I don't understand how you could get motion sickness from that game... This reviewer completely baffles me and does a very poor job of actually reviewing games.
 

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I quite enjoyed the writing style- maybe not for a review, but certainly for a work of fiction. I'll admit that, given the lack of actual criticism, the blaring "50" at the bottom is somewhat out of place.
 

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Soylent Bacon said:
Wait, that was a review? As I was reading it, I thought he was parodying the game, and I thought it was actually interesting. It looked like he picked a flaw in the game and told a story about it, narrating the thoughts of a man living in a world that actually seems to revolve around him.

It kept my interest and I was enjoying the read until I got to the big, fat 50 at the end, showing that he took half the credit off for basically one flaw he was focusing on. I might keep reading these if I can just ignore the review score at the end.

As a review, it was bullshit, but as a short parody, it wasn't bad.
He actually covers quite a few points, much more than just one flaw.
 

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I like this guy. He makes lots of good points, however, that was NOT a review of the game. It was a review of one aspect of a game with many elements. What he said is true, though.