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pookie101

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i will say the battles are a hell of a lot faster thats for sure, magic offensively is pretty useless from what ive experienced and due to the low income its very hard to have more than a couple of armies.
 

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Silentpony said:
Deep resigned sigh

I'm not convinced.

I enjoyed it last night, but its insanely...dull and uninvolved beyond "Go!" and "Attack" and the occasional "Cast!" Also in keeping with my just starting, victory vs. defeat seems entirely arbitrary.

I played 3 custom missions last night, each the exact same. I was Orks vs. Empire, with medium sized armies on a big open field, with the exact same armies and the exact same tactics.
1st mission was a pyrrhic victory. 2nd was a decisive defeat. 3rd was decisive victory. And for the life of me I couldn't tell you why either went which way. Nothing changed, and I made sure of that.

It just seems...random.
Tactics, respective army compositions and quality.

It's still a strategy game even when you autoresolve.

For example:
If you pit the Vampire Counts against the Dwarves the Dwarves will win most of the time because they are strong in melee,leadership and have artillery.
The Vampire Counts bank on breaking the morale of units simply by being on the field, can only go in melee (so take heavy losses over artillery fire) and have shamblers in high numbers for melee.
I actually had to drop my campaign last night because my allies pissed off the dwarf clans with higher tier fighters and my armies simply couldn't cope with that no matter the tactic I applied.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
xaszatm said:
Elfgore said:
Eh, it's alright. Feels a little bare-bones to me the more I play it. I'm usually quite bored of my campaign like fifty turns in. Magic is pretty much useless offensively, it's sole purpose is pretty much buffs and debuffs. It just feels like a lot is missing from it.
So...what you're saying is that it's like a Warhammer Fantasy Game? :p

OT: I do think it's a pretty average game. There's a visceral thrill of playing these characters in a video game where I don't have to buy a sea of models to represent the army. But the tactics could use a lot of work. I'm probably going to wait for a mod to make it more tactical like the old Darth mods but I am happy that we had a vanilla that wasn't broken straight out of the gate (yes, I know Attila happened. Still doesn't excuse Rome II)
I just hope the expansions will make it better.

I really want to play the High Elves because they have Dragons :(

And I wanna play Daemons of Chaos because they have Khorne Daemons like Bloodletters and Bloodthirsters.
1. Dark Elves laughs at your pathetic High Elves

2. Slaanesh > Khonre

3. Tomb Kings > All

4. Yeah I hope so. The army we currently have is decent for one centered around the old world though.

Samtemdo8 said:
And like 40k (or Dawn of War) they have to summoned by Sacrificing a Chaos Lord?
A big thing about the Warhammer World is that there are two Chaos Portals on the North and South Poles of the World. So summoning Greater Daemons are easier in this world. This is balanced by the fact the Old Ones planned this and weakened the portals so it is easier to kill Greater Daemons in this world than it is in 40k (In 40k one greater daemon/daemon prince is enough to destroy a whole world). The Daemon Princes in Warhammer Fantasy comes in two flavors. The type that has to be summoned by great sacrifice and the type that is created by a roving band of Chaos Warriors. Due to the feverish belief the Daemon Prince's subjects have, he can stay on the material realm without having to force himself into the warp as belief keeps in grounded in reality.
 

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I'm just going to say what I've said elsewhere: IF it turns out well then I'll eventually get the complete edition a year or so down the road.

My backlog is too big to justify a game that I'm getting very mixed signals about until its settled down; not to mention HoI4 comes out in a week and a half and I fully expect that to keep me busy for a while.

It looks okay. But I no longer have the faith in CA that I used to.
 

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Haven't played that much but enjoying my time with it. I do however agree that there seems to be a bit less stuff to do in battle. Like almost no unit have triggered ability and offensive magic just tickle enemy (a perfectly placed magic kill 2-3 enemy unit) so you just fall back to buff magic, which is pretty much the same as previous game, just instead of being "leadership" ability there magic.

I'm also disappointed that there's no special resource in the province that can be used to make special building to buff unit created there like in shogun 2. It gave the various province some personality, but now you pretty much just need one province to build all your unit and all the other can be just money maker.
 

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I'm getting it, but I'll wait for a complete edition with all (or most of the) factions rather than paying for them as DLC. Until then, I have Stellaris right now and Civ. VI in the fall.
 

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dohnut king said:
I'm getting it, but I'll wait for a complete edition with all (or most of the) factions rather than paying for them as DLC. Until then, I have Stellaris right now and Civ. VI in the fall.
Well have fun waiting four more years at a minimum for the other games games to come out.

I am having a blast with this game so far. I know little about warhammer but I bought the game anyways since I wanted a professionally made fantasy total war. I love how each faction plays extremely different from one another as it adds a lot of re-playability.
 

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Samtemdo8 said:
Bernzz said:
I'm enjoying my Greenskins campaign, slowly crushing the orc tribes in the south, but I'm wondering how the hell I am going to take Karaz-a-Karak when the time comes. Dwarfs are terrifying and orcs break quickly.
You have every right to fear the Dwarves of Warhammer:

I had nothing to fear.

 

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There's been a mixed reaction to this one?

Granted, I've been a bit busy playing it to check, but all my RL mates are loving it. Is it absolutely perfect? No, the economy could do with a bit of a tweak, the army limit was BS in Rome II and it's still BS here, and it can be stupidly hard to pin down Chaos raiding armies in your territory (while they burn it down, making the economy even more broken). That said some of these have long been a problem with the series.

I haven't found the battles any worse than any other total war game. There's a degree of faction variation never before seen in the series. The 5 playable factions offer so much more gameplay variation than, say, Shogun 2, where the dozen plus clans were functionally identical.

Really, it's easily the best Total War since Napoleon, and if I wasn't so enamoured with that time period it'd be the best since Medieval II. It's great. CA really delivered. And it should get even better when they add in more Legendary Heroes and Races (bring on the Brets!).
 

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Megalodon said:
There's been a mixed reaction to this one?

Granted, I've been a bit busy playing it to check, but all my RL mates are loving it. Is it absolutely perfect? No, the economy could do with a bit of a tweak, the army limit was BS in Rome II and it's still BS here, and it can be stupidly hard to pin down Chaos raiding armies in your territory (while they burn it down, making the economy even more broken). That said some of these have long been a problem with the series.

I haven't found the battles any worse than any other total war game. There's a degree of faction variation never before seen in the series. The 5 playable factions offer so much more gameplay variation than, say, Shogun 2, where the dozen plus clans were functionally identical.

Really, it's easily the best Total War since Napoleon, and if I wasn't so enamoured with that time period it'd be the best since Medieval II. It's great. CA really delivered. And it should get even better when they add in more Legendary Heroes and Races (bring on the Brets!).
Bretonnia is playable in the game, just in the multiplayer.....And they are weak ass fuck.

What I want are High Elves, Ogre Kingdoms, and Khorne Daemons.