I thoroughly hate Halo, yet I'm interested in ODST?
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One extra huge coming up! Here:Vrex360 said:
You don't have to thank me, it's what I do.
i think halo is an average series but ODST is shite. i would'nt recommend it get's boring after the first hour or so(so half way through the game it get's boring).
You just had to express that opinion, didn't you?crazyjay321 said:
I'm just happy this thread is not escalating into a flame war.
No. I was never interested in Halo and when ODST came around I decided to try to get on the band wagon but I just really didnt enjoy it.
renting is the best way to go, b/c if you just want the campagin just rent but fire-fight is addictive but you need 4 friends who also have it. The game is ok, like OK the campaign could be longer and it kinda feels like MW/MW2/WaW instead of a halo game. rent it if you like it buy it. like any other game
Heya! I thoroughly hated Halo 2 and Halo 3 (I'm not that much of a multiplayer gamer. . . more of an exposition and gameplay fanatic), but loved the first Halo game, after a gaming education that started in the early '90s.Lovelocke said:
My opinion of Halo: ODST is thus: It brings the gameplay of Halo: CE, with updated graphics and a suitably down-to-earth, human story (none of this saving the universe with an invincible, badly animated statue). It embodies everything that I have loved about the series, whilst eliminating everything I hated. It's a really. . . cool. . . story <3 which is UPLIFTED by the soundscaping, voice acting and lighting, all of which are amazing. The immersion is brilliant and it really makes you want to find out more about the characters and their universe (something I couldn't care less about with the characters in the previous games, save the first). It's made me consider buying Expanded Universe books, for goodness' sake. . .
Gameplay-wise, the weapons are all perfectly balanced for fighting the AI, and not a single one of them, save the brute shotgun, maybe, feels useless at any point. Each has a situation. The AI doesn't rely on simple damage and health increase either - you will find yourself being genuinely challenged by the computer - something not seen in the series since CE.
As to length, I've owned the game since release and I'm still re-playing the campaign (which took me a while to complete, but I'm a busy bee). That's how awesome it is. Multiplayer-wise, it's akin to playing Perfect Dark or Timesplitters with bots that get progressively and impossibly difficult.
Definitely worth a buy. Not at all like the crap iterations of the IP.
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Everything I wrote about Halo *was* about the first game! I've played Part 1 the longest to date (I'd say about 4 hours in total), part 2 the least (a couple of hours in co-op mode which was okay), and part 3 in passing on a store display. If anything that should say I *want* to like it and have given it plenty of chance...buy teh haloz said:
I assure everyone I'm reading every word you post... I really am on the fence, and it seems the jury is still quite undecided on this game.
Did want to point one thing out though: I don't know if I actually wrote it or not (I know I'm walking on eggshells around Halo fans), but I wrote "Halo was probably your first FPS" and published that - What I may/may not have said was "this would be an indicator of your age and inexperience with the genre as a whole, so by comparison you wouldn't really have a good frame of reference".
They also mentioned something to the effect of "No, lol stupid: Halo wasn't mein first FPS, it was Timesplitters 2!" as if that meant something. Halo (late 2001) happened to beat Timesplitters 2 onto the market by less than a year, so yeah, the age of that guy was firmly cemented.
For comparison's sake, my first FPS was Wolfenstein 3D... downloaded Episode 1 as a demo from a local BBS via 2400 baud Hayes-Compatible modem. You mentioned your first, I've mentioned mine: All I'm saying is, I've played all kinds... the games that stood out to me were surely clones of other titles, but they were improved/interesting clones (Shadow Warrior and Blood were gonzo Duke Nukem 3d... or a game like Rise of the Triad for that matter.)
Also a note on Half-Life 2: I also didn't care for Half-Life as a series, yet its spinoffs were amazing. I played far more Team Fortress Classic and Counterstrike (which used to be a free mod) back in high school than I did the core game: Never beat a Half-Life game, never played an expansion, tried many times. To Half-Life 2's credit though, there's a definite art style, mood, and the whole dystopian sci-fi gimmick that I loved in movies and really enjoyed about HL2.
Unfortunately, mood doesn't count for everything when you can't enjoy SHOOTING things in a first person SHOOTER... and as a result devote more time to playing with the physics engine than actually beating the title.
Did want to point one thing out though: I don't know if I actually wrote it or not (I know I'm walking on eggshells around Halo fans), but I wrote "Halo was probably your first FPS" and published that - What I may/may not have said was "this would be an indicator of your age and inexperience with the genre as a whole, so by comparison you wouldn't really have a good frame of reference".
They also mentioned something to the effect of "No, lol stupid: Halo wasn't mein first FPS, it was Timesplitters 2!" as if that meant something. Halo (late 2001) happened to beat Timesplitters 2 onto the market by less than a year, so yeah, the age of that guy was firmly cemented.
For comparison's sake, my first FPS was Wolfenstein 3D... downloaded Episode 1 as a demo from a local BBS via 2400 baud Hayes-Compatible modem. You mentioned your first, I've mentioned mine: All I'm saying is, I've played all kinds... the games that stood out to me were surely clones of other titles, but they were improved/interesting clones (Shadow Warrior and Blood were gonzo Duke Nukem 3d... or a game like Rise of the Triad for that matter.)
Also a note on Half-Life 2: I also didn't care for Half-Life as a series, yet its spinoffs were amazing. I played far more Team Fortress Classic and Counterstrike (which used to be a free mod) back in high school than I did the core game: Never beat a Half-Life game, never played an expansion, tried many times. To Half-Life 2's credit though, there's a definite art style, mood, and the whole dystopian sci-fi gimmick that I loved in movies and really enjoyed about HL2.
Unfortunately, mood doesn't count for everything when you can't enjoy SHOOTING things in a first person SHOOTER... and as a result devote more time to playing with the physics engine than actually beating the title.
The only thing that I can really add to this thread is on characterization. The main, playable character somehow manages to have less character than Master Chief. And fanboyism aside (I really liked all 3 games, so sue me) there wasn't a whole lot to the Chief, even in the books. Luckily, most of the campaign is him traveling from lace to place in the city and quantum leaping into the viewpoint of people who actually talk. Also, due to the fact that they added a map, your objectives are always clearly marked, as are most of the enemies in your way and you can choose whatever path you want to get there. The only problem I have with the open map portions are that the whole city tends to look exactly the same, and it is sometimes easy to get lost.
Edit: I would like to add that, no, Halo was not the first FPS that I played, that was Chex Quest (A cereal-themed Doom clone made by Post Cereal) But, before that, I had grown up watching my older brothers play such timeless classics as Wolfenstein and Duke Nukem 3D. I fail to see how Halo isn't a "real" FPS. You run through corridors, shoot at things, and they die. I fail to see how a collection of religeously fanatic and xenocidal aliens is less original than nazis? I'm not attacking your position, I'm just a little confused about your meaning.
Edit: I would like to add that, no, Halo was not the first FPS that I played, that was Chex Quest (A cereal-themed Doom clone made by Post Cereal) But, before that, I had grown up watching my older brothers play such timeless classics as Wolfenstein and Duke Nukem 3D. I fail to see how Halo isn't a "real" FPS. You run through corridors, shoot at things, and they die. I fail to see how a collection of religeously fanatic and xenocidal aliens is less original than nazis? I'm not attacking your position, I'm just a little confused about your meaning.
Rent it. It's far too short to buy, and unless you have a lot of friends to play firefight with, there's not a whole lot to do afterwards, aside from achievement farming.
Oh, and if you do rent it, play it on Heroic.
On Normal and Easy, you essentially become the same bullet-sponge you are in Halo 3, albiet with a health bar, and it feels way to much like classic Halo.
On Heroic and Legendary, the designer's intent to make you feel more like a normal soldier really begins to stand out.
Also, while you can do the missions in almost any order, you should probably do them in the default order if you want to understand just what the hell is going on.
Oh, and if you do rent it, play it on Heroic.
On Normal and Easy, you essentially become the same bullet-sponge you are in Halo 3, albiet with a health bar, and it feels way to much like classic Halo.
On Heroic and Legendary, the designer's intent to make you feel more like a normal soldier really begins to stand out.
Also, while you can do the missions in almost any order, you should probably do them in the default order if you want to understand just what the hell is going on.
Only a theory, I didn't read much, but you may like it because your not playing as God in a suit.