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MaxTheReaper said:
This is where you lose me, though.
Simply put: What argument can you make against it being my decision whether or not to put someone to death?

Actually, we're not even talking about people, here.
We're talking about idiots.
Big difference.
I shouldn't need an argument; we're talking about human beings' lives.

Idiots are people. There's no difference; we're all equal.
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MaxTheReaper said:
...I recognize the language you are speaking but I do not understand the meaning of the words you are using as they are arranged.
Okay... simply put: I do not agree with you.

You may consider someone else to be an idiot, but that doesn't - in any way - mean that they deserve to die.
Are you two still going at this crap? Give it up already, both of you.

I also do not think idiots deserve to die. Someone has to clean out the port-o-potties and it sure-as-hell isn't going to be me, let the tardies do it. :)
I wouldn't call it "crap." It's me trying to defend the notion that people are all equal and that no one deserves to die just because someone else considers them to be inferior.
 
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It depends on how long you gonna serve, joining an army and contribute to your country is one in a life time experience. of course it depends what you are going to be, if you are sitting behind a desk it wont be much different then civilian work place.
 

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To quote you: "Okay... simply put: I do not agree with you."
I don't think we - as human beings - have the right to decide when someone else deserves to die.

Someone may think another person is inferior, and that they deserve to die, but why do they get to decide what "inferior" is?
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WHOA OKAY NO
That's insulting.
It shouldn't be insulting; it's the truth.

On a mental level, people are all different. But, in regard to a person's worth, we're all exactly the same.
 

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as long as your parents understand what you're signing up for, and don't complain then try to sue the government if you die in combat.

i hate those people.
 

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I don't know if Canada has Military Academies like the US (West Point, Naval, and Air Force) but if you have the grades go for that. Top notch education for free and you enter the force as an officer. They're just quite selective here in the states
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
Does not compute.
Oh... I think it does compute.
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Because they are superior.
Circular logic!
They're not superior.
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No, it is not.
It's what you believe to be the truth.
There is no such thing as an objective truth.
The fact that you believe you can just go around labeling things The Truth is part of what bothers me.
The other part is that you just said I am equal to rapists and idiots.
How do you know there is no objective truth?

Honestly, I don't care if it bothers you. We're all equal.

Yes, you are equal to rapists and idiots. So am I. As I have said, we're all equal.

Even if we were to go by your logic... you said that you enjoy it when others suffer at your hand. Rapists cause people to suffer. Some - I am sure - even enjoy it when their victims suffer. So, are you really that much different?
 

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MaxTheReaper said:
So you believe.
I know this.
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Because you claim to have it, yet you are possessed of obvious bias - therefore you cannot hold it, if it were to exist.
Can you prove one exists?
That's an argument you should be awfully familiar with!
So, because I claim to possess it, it is unable to exist?
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I've managed to avoid insulting you.
The least you could do is return the favor.
I truly wasn't trying to insult you; I was only providing the truth.
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Logical fallacy.
You use guns to shoot at people in video games.
That does not mean it's the same as actually picking up a gun and shooting someone.

Degrees exist - there is no slippery slope.
What - exactly - are you saying?

I was comparing you to rapists. Convince me that you are different.
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Yep!
If you'll recall, I'm not the one saying I'm equal to them.
You are.

And since you seem to think saying something makes it true, I can just say "I'm not."
Of course, that directly goes against your saying "Yes we are."

Which sort of throws a spanner in the works - you're either saying your viewpoint is more important than mine, and therefore overrides it (which puts us on unequal footing despite your protestations) or you're conceding the point that saying something does not, in fact, make it true, despite your actions indicating you believe otherwise.

Or maybe there's a third option: You believe yourself important enough to speak for your god. Which is interesting, because that would "logically" mean that anyone can make proclamations and claim they're coming directly from your god.
Or you've found some bit of writing in your holy book where he says "And also all men are equal, even the ones who commit horrible atrocities."
In which case I will have enough evidence to label your god "evil" without sounding like I'm going for controversy.

Either way, as you've compared yourself to the two worst groups of people in the entire world, I find your opinion suddenly matters much less than it did before.
So I'm going to do what I've always done when I tire of a toy: Move on to the next one.

In search of adventure!
Away!
How are you different? Both rapists and yourself enjoy it when you cause people to suffer, so what's the big difference?

If there is no objective truth, how can there be the "worst groups," anyway?