Idaho White supremacist builds kkk snowman

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UltraParanoia

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Signa said:
It's not like he tied and restrained a black man in his yard and then set up the snowman to look like it's lynching him.
Holy shit, you just gave me a great idea, and I know a couple of brothers who would gladly dress up in slave clothes for that amount of hilarity.
 

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Jonluw said:
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Jonluw said:
That's disgusting and all, but I don't think the man should have been arrested for it (if he wasn't, I misunderstood the article). Free speech and all that.

Edit: Oh, he wasn't charged. My bad.
Yeah, but inciting racial hatred and all that.

Still, I give the snowman itself a 7/10.
I don't know how the law actually goes on this topic, but my personal opinion is that someone should be allowed to paint a big swastika on their house if they feel like it.
A serious question to you then.

If someone wrote in large letters "Niggers burn in hell you fucking monkey faggots" on there front lawn, say with a billboard, would you be okay with that? Especially in a residential neighborhood?

Imagine you have kids, or, hell imagine you were black?

One might say that's a bit extreme but a Nazi-Swastika or a KKK snowman isn't that much different in the eyes of those who understand it's meaning.
 

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Honestly, It reminds me of a ghost.

If a man wants to display a message through a snowman, he has some problems.
 

Denamic

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We should have more people do this.
It's bound to make other racists realize just how retarded racism is.
Kagim said:
If someone wrote in large letters "Niggers burn in hell you fucking monkey faggots" on there front lawn, say with a billboard, would you be okay with that? Especially in a residential neighborhood?
Atheists gets that all the time from religious nutjobs.
How is that any different?
 

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Ignatz_Zwakh said:
I seriously lol'd. Not that I approve of what the dude did...but I just had a funny image for a snowman exhibit based around racial hatred.
Yeah, my first response was to laugh.

Honestly I think it's stupid to waste the time of the police on such a trivial matter. If my neighbor did something like that I'd just go over and smash the thing up.

"My kids asked me about it and I had to explain what that symbol means." I think this probably explains it "I'm mad because I had to explain something to my kids that I don't think I should have to because it could damage them (which it won't) so I called the cops" I think it's a good thing to teach your kids about rather than ignoring it until they end up being brainwashed by some neo-nazi group.

A couple of my friends in college built a giant snow penis and scrotum last year but they did it in their backyard so people going by wouldn't see.
 

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Denamic said:
We should have more people do this.
It's bound to make other racists realize just how retarded racism is.
Kagim said:
If someone wrote in large letters "Niggers burn in hell you fucking monkey faggots" on there front lawn, say with a billboard, would you be okay with that? Especially in a residential neighborhood?
Atheists gets that all the time from religious nutjobs.
How is that any different?
Please quote where i said that was any better. Thank you.
 

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Kagim said:
Jonluw said:
Woodsey said:
Jonluw said:
That's disgusting and all, but I don't think the man should have been arrested for it (if he wasn't, I misunderstood the article). Free speech and all that.

Edit: Oh, he wasn't charged. My bad.
Yeah, but inciting racial hatred and all that.

Still, I give the snowman itself a 7/10.
I don't know how the law actually goes on this topic, but my personal opinion is that someone should be allowed to paint a big swastika on their house if they feel like it.
A serious question to you then.

If someone wrote in large letters "Niggers burn in hell you fucking monkey faggots" on there front lawn, say with a billboard, would you be okay with that? Especially in a residential neighborhood?

Imagine you have kids, or, hell imagine you were black?

One might say that's a bit extreme but a Nazi-Swastika or a KKK snowman isn't that much different in the eyes of those who understand it's meaning.
I would hate the person for it and ask him to remove it, sure; but if he didn't remove it, I would accept it. Noone's throwing those Westboro baptist church people in jail, after all
 

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I live in Idaho, and I've raised the issue before about my being ethnically mixed, so I won't go into that. To anyone that thinks this is isolated, you're clearly not from around here. People like him are all over this state, and they're not exactly closeted about their feelings. It's not funny, especially since people like him have prevented people like myself from being employed, attending school, or participating in local church activities. It isn't something people talk much about, but it's here, in force, and it has been for decades. It's not trivial, and it will never go away around here.

Racism isn't funny, it ruins lives.
 

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I'm from another country and we obviously didn't have any kkk. If i make a pointy headed snowman is it still racist? I mean, without the whole historical implications thing.
In my opinion a snowman is a pretty ambiguous way of expressing hate so if the "builder" does not support that through other acts you can't really say what it was made for.
 

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Jonluw said:
Kagim said:
Jonluw said:
Woodsey said:
Jonluw said:
That's disgusting and all, but I don't think the man should have been arrested for it (if he wasn't, I misunderstood the article). Free speech and all that.

Edit: Oh, he wasn't charged. My bad.
Yeah, but inciting racial hatred and all that.

Still, I give the snowman itself a 7/10.
I don't know how the law actually goes on this topic, but my personal opinion is that someone should be allowed to paint a big swastika on their house if they feel like it.
A serious question to you then.

If someone wrote in large letters "Niggers burn in hell you fucking monkey faggots" on there front lawn, say with a billboard, would you be okay with that? Especially in a residential neighborhood?

Imagine you have kids, or, hell imagine you were black?

One might say that's a bit extreme but a Nazi-Swastika or a KKK snowman isn't that much different in the eyes of those who understand it's meaning.
I would hate the person for it and ask him to remove it, sure; but if he didn't remove it, I would accept it. Noone's throwing those Westboro baptist church people in jail, after all
He wasn't charged either. He was never thrown into jail either. He likely wouldn't have been put into jail either and neighbors would have just defaced it inevitably anyway. He honestly wouldn't have been facing any of the charges people listed since what he was doing was just racist. The cops likely came to investigate the complaint, not to arrest him.
 

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Kagim said:
Jonluw said:
Kagim said:
Jonluw said:
Woodsey said:
Jonluw said:
That's disgusting and all, but I don't think the man should have been arrested for it (if he wasn't, I misunderstood the article). Free speech and all that.

Edit: Oh, he wasn't charged. My bad.
Yeah, but inciting racial hatred and all that.

Still, I give the snowman itself a 7/10.
I don't know how the law actually goes on this topic, but my personal opinion is that someone should be allowed to paint a big swastika on their house if they feel like it.
A serious question to you then.

If someone wrote in large letters "Niggers burn in hell you fucking monkey faggots" on there front lawn, say with a billboard, would you be okay with that? Especially in a residential neighborhood?

Imagine you have kids, or, hell imagine you were black?

One might say that's a bit extreme but a Nazi-Swastika or a KKK snowman isn't that much different in the eyes of those who understand it's meaning.
I would hate the person for it and ask him to remove it, sure; but if he didn't remove it, I would accept it. Noone's throwing those Westboro baptist church people in jail, after all
He wasn't charged either. He was never thrown into jail either. He likely wouldn't have been put into jail either and neighbors would have just defaced it inevitably anyway. He honestly wouldn't have been facing any of the charges people listed since what he was doing was just racist. The cops likely came to investigate the complaint, not to arrest him.
Indeed he wasn't. I did edit my original post after reading the story more closely.
 

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UltraParanoia said:
Signa said:
It's not like he tied and restrained a black man in his yard and then set up the snowman to look like it's lynching him.
Holy shit, you just gave me a great idea, and I know a couple of brothers who would gladly dress up in slave clothes for that amount of hilarity.
I have to admit, I almost laughed aloud from picturing that as I typed it. I find racism pretty damn funny until you are actually serious about it like this guy was.
 

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Yosharian said:
Jonluw said:
Yosharian said:
Jonluw said:
That's disgusting and all, but I don't think the man should have been arrested for it (if he wasn't, I misunderstood the article). Free speech and all that.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incitement_to_ethnic_or_racial_hatred
Yeah, I don't live in any of those countries.

Also, I stated earlier that I don't care what the law says, I was just talking about my personal opinion.
Point taken, but I guess what I'm saying is that in principle, I think there was nothing wrong with him being arrested.
I guess we just disagree on a fundamental level then. I really need to get to bed now, in any case; so maybe it's for the best that the discussion came to a halt.
 

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Icehearted said:
I live in Idaho, and I've raised the issue before about my being ethnically mixed, so I won't go into that. To anyone that thinks this is isolated, you're clearly not from around here. People like him are all over this state, and they're not exactly closeted about their feelings. It's not funny, especially since people like him have prevented people like myself from being employed, attending school, or participating in local church activities. It isn't something people talk much about, but it's here, in force, and it has been for decades. It's not trivial, and it will never go away around here.

Racism isn't funny, it ruins lives.
Then move next-door to us here in Washington, because there's no need to wallow in that filth. We're pretty cool with racial issues, or at least on the west side of the Cascades where I am. Too bad the cost of living is higher than it should be.