Idea For Fallout

[elvor0]

Any other country with clash with the established themes. If fallout took place in any other place other than 1950s Cold War America the game would suffer for it.

yes, because people in europe dressed like this until the 90's
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Er what? I don't think that was his point. Think of Fallout, think of how deeply engrained the whole 1950s aesthetic and themes are burned into it. You've got the whole Cold War going on with the Chinese/USSR, the USSR still existing in 2077 being a big thing.

I mean it's /doable/, there's nothing in the Lore that says England/Europe isn't completely lifeless, and given The Commonwealth was engaged with a conflict in the Middle East at the time, it's entirely plausable that they would have an equivalent of Vault Tech technology.

It's just that there have been 4 canon games that all have the 1950 US aesthetic (I'm not sure if the 2 BoS games are officially recognized as cannon), and to discard that and set it elsewhere might just make it seem...un-Fallouty

 

[Saregon]

As for Fort Knox, I don't see it as more than DLC. As was said above, it's in Kentucky. Also, it's been way too long since I played Fallout or Fallout 2, but do people in Fallout still recognize the value of gold? I mean, you don't see it much at all in 3 or NV.

I would love to see somewhere in Florida. The Kennedy Space Center, mutant alligators (which would probably be scary as hell, seeing as how chameleons became Deathclaws and all), Miami with the large difference between the poor and rich parts of it, high-class hotels, etc. So many possibilites.

 

[endtherapture]

Any other country with clash with the established themes. If fallout took place in any other place other than 1950s Cold War America the game would suffer for it.

yes, because people in europe dressed like this until the 90's
-snip-

Er what? I don't think that was his point. Think of Fallout, think of how deeply engrained the whole 1950s aesthetic and themes are burned into it. You've got the whole Cold War going on with the Chinese/USSR, the USSR still existing in 2077 being a big thing.

I mean it's /doable/, there's nothing in the Lore that says England/Europe isn't completely lifeless, and given The Commonwealth was engaged with a conflict in the Middle East at the time, it's entirely plausable that they would have an equivalent of Vault Tech technology.

It's just that there have been 4 canon games that all have the 1950 US aesthetic (I'm not sure if the 2 BoS games are officially recognized as cannon), and to discard that and set it elsewhere might just make it seem...un-Fallouty

50s UK aesthetic is just as cool and nostalgic and only subtley different to 50s America aesthetic, so no, it wouldn't be un-Fallouty.

 

[FalloutJack]

A little backstory, I've only played Fallout 3 and New Vegas but I've loved both, one of the main reasons is roaming around and finding all the locations, occasionally stumbling across a strange and/or interesting one.

Now I've recently watched Goldfinger and I had the idea that in the next or a subsequent Fallout game they should include Fort Knox as a location, imagine having to fight through heavily armoured ghouls and other creatures, traverse the building and finally make your way into the vault and to be rewarded with gold bars - much like Dead Money I know but it's more a surprise location you find instead of the whole plot.

To give this some discussion I'll ask two questions:
1 - Do you like the Fort Knox idea?
2 - What landmark would you like to see in a Fallout game, not a location but a specific building or statue or something like that?

Can I just point you in this direction? [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/540.386465-A-REALLY-Wild-Wasteland-The-Fallout-RP] I'm a bit ahead of you on that one.

 

[The_Lost_King]

A Fort Knox idea is a cool idea, but there are rumors it will take place in Boston.

I would like to see a Fallout set in London (destroyed Big Ben anyone?) too bad the purists would lose their shit, but the butthurt would be worth it! Imagine ghouls with British accents!

but there would be no one alive except for a couple of ghouls because there were no vaults anywhere other than the US. Plus Fallout is about America going through history never evolving from 50's thinking.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

but there would be no one alive except for a couple of ghouls because there were no vaults anywhere other than the US.

Alistair Tenpenny came from England. Alistair Tenpenny is not a ghoul. So I guess there would be other people alive except for ghouls. You are going on your assumptions based on fallout lore, not fallout lore itself.

 

[The_Lost_King]

but there would be no one alive except for a couple of ghouls because there were no vaults anywhere other than the US.

Alistair Tenpenny came from England. Alistair Tenpenny is not a ghoul. So I guess there would be other people alive except for ghouls. You are going on your assumptions based on fallout lore, not fallout lore itself.

What? Please reread that last sentence because it doesn't make sense.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

What? Please reread that last sentence because it doesn't make sense.

You mean you do not understand it (although I do admit it could have done with an extra comma). You are taking fallout lore (no vaults outside the US) and extrapolating from that (therefore no one outside the US could survive).

EDIT:
To add clarity, to say there are no vaults outside the US is in accordance with fallout lore. Saying that that means no one could survive elsewhere is not, that is just your interpretation. That is no more valid than someone else saying that due to the limited nuclear exchange in the resource wars the various European or Middle Eastern governments decided to build a few deep nuclear bunkers of their own. Or having people survive in caves like Little Lamplight in FO3.

You have your own vision...in fact, fuck it, I've already said all this earlier, so I'll just quote myself:

Fallout is fiction and nothing in the lore so far says that Europe (or Asia, Africa etc) is a deserted lifeless wasteland, use your imagination and you can come up with a story that is just as viable as the rest of Fallout.

I can understand if people have their own view of what has happened in the fallout universe based on the lore they've read and would like fallout to develop according to their vision, but to say that you couldn't have a game set in Europe or elsewhere is just wrong. Not that anyone ITT has said that...yet.

 

[SajuukKhar]

and it doesnt matter that ghouls and mutants could only exist due to the forced evolutionary virus (FEV) combined with radiation.

nope, you get mutants and ghouls just through gama radiation.

I am sorry but that is wrong.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Ghoul

"There is some controversy, even among the makers of Fallout games, about the origins of ghouls. While Tim Cain said explicitly that ghouls are only a result of radiation, consistent with an understanding of the science of radiation as it stood during the 1950s, Chris Taylor said that a mix of both radiation and FEV was involved. While Chris Avellone initially supported the latter view in his Fallout Bible,[2] he was later convinced to support the radiation-only version.[3] Some people believe that ghouls were formed when the bombs fell, people who were not fortunate enough to be in a vault or die were exposed to the radiation and became ghouls. "

The original makers of the game itself don't agree on what makes ghouls, and even then, two of the three people involved in the controversy support the radiation only creation method.

Bethesda going the "radiation only" method would not be inconsistent with Fallout lore.

super mutants need FEV, but there is no reason for there not to be ghouls around the world.

 

[The_Lost_King]

What? Please reread that last sentence because it doesn't make sense.

You mean you do not understand it (although I do admit it could have done with an extra comma). You are taking fallout lore (no vaults outside the US) and extrapolating from that (therefore no one outside the US could survive).

Well fine. Very few people would survive, not really enough to host a whole game. The US had a wide spread system of vaults people could survive in while there might have been a few nuclear bunkers in everywhere else. Also the vaults were meant to house an entire community while a nuclear bunker could shelter 1 family at best.

 

[uzo]

I would like to see a Fallout set in the Australian outback. It could be called Fallout: A Town Like Alice.

A parched wasteland, where a drop of water is worth killing for. Strange country folk with six fingers and all of `em are itchy. You can quite literally walk for thousands of kilometres and never cross so much as a trail let alone a road. A place where crocodiles grow to the size of a city bus; wild dingoes drag your children away at night from their beds; and you often share your bathroom with spiders more than capable of killing you.



Hang on ...

... scratch that. Let's call it Fallout: Next Thursday in Darwin.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

Well fine. Very few people would survive, not really enough to host a whole game. The US hada wide spread system of vults people could survive in while there might have been a few nuclear bunkers in everywhere else. Also the vaults were meant to house an entire community while a nuclear bunker could shelter 1 family at best.

You're extrapolating again.

Also, see edit.

 

[uchytjes]

I still want a FO: Chicago or something in the midwest. Also, I kind of want one where trains are involved for some reason...

 

[blackrave]

Actually it would be awesome to base FO4 in Canada
(For those who don't know the lore- USA annexed/occupied Canada before the Great War)
Main character- member of Canada's freedom fighters
During one of operations Great War happens, and our main hero manages to survive nuclear war
So basically survival is much more important moment in this game
(imagine Metro2033 world situation, but with FO:NV basic needs system)
Hell, even ghoulification could be involved somehow (character slowly turns into ghoul and tries to find cure for it, for example)

Pros
much more mutated and disfigured critters (since war only just happened)- they were past the survival point to be present in further titles, but could be dangerous enemies
much more torn apart world
Some place besides USA that makes sense

Cons
no supermutants- they were created only during FO1
no Brotherhood of Steel- BoS was formed during the war but in California (Enclave on the other hand could be present, if not in full force, than at least in form of shadow operatives)

Not likely, but it could happen.

 

[Madman123456]

I don't think that would make for a good Fallout game. You'd need more Contrast, a Conflict around something important next to roaming around in the Wilderness. Sure, one could have some Factions, some known and some new, settle in Kentucky and fight it out over the big fat Bunker full of Gold. Then again, Gold is a rather useless Material. It wont corrode, which will give it at least some use in the wasteland.
Other then that, a Gold Bar would only be useful if i threw it against some Raider's Head really hard. A Shotgun would be more useful in that World.

I would like to know what happened to the Wastelands after the respective Games. If there's a Game in Boston, maybe we'll see some Lyon's Brotherhood scouting with a Vertibird. Maybe they'd be a minor Faction with some sidequests to find out about Technology from the "Commonwealth" that was mentioned in Fallout 3.
Same thing would be possible if a game where to take place somewhere east or north of NCR Territory. I figure that the NCR and the Brotherhood do well and wont get destroyed in the canon.

In a new game, the D.C. Brotherhood or the NCR are merely scouting about and at the end of the Game will be thankful that the Player has killed all the bad guys and they don't have to gear up for another bloody War.