If people try to link violent video games with real violence...

[weeman3000]

I find playing games relaxing no matter what the content is, even on multiplayer games been killed repeated in fps or mmo games just dosn't get to me because i class it as a setback that comes with learning any new skill.

I admit that i probably wouldn't be as freaked out to watch somebody get cut up or die in front of me as much as maybe somebody whos never been exposed to violence through media but i've never classed that as a bad thing. I still despise people who murder and rape and i'm not that weak willed that i would ever ditch my morals and become the next jack the ripper, sorry if the anti-gaming crowd dosn't like this =(

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

More over, you aren't just mocking the idiots who say video games cause murder. You are also mocking the legitimate experiments which show it cause violence. That makes your mocking on the same level as their shouting.

How am I mocking any legitimate experiment? Show me an example from my text. I think you're just projecting that on my words.

It was clearly intended as a parody of Jack Thompson's murder simulator argument for school shootings. Please don't tell me what I am and am not mocking. I'm telling you right now.

 

[Jamous]

*snip*

Regarding my avatar: have you ever heard of irony?

Anyway, I'd argue that the video game debate has nothing to do with possible harm. If music, all music (rock, country, rap, metal, classical - all of it) was determined to be harmful - caused aggression, lowered test scores, whatever - would you get rid of it?

I'd argue that freedom of expression, including the medium of expression, is more valuable than dubious safety risks.

What if murder if your way of expressing yourself???

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

*snip*

Regarding my avatar: have you ever heard of irony?

Anyway, I'd argue that the video game debate has nothing to do with possible harm. If music, all music (rock, country, rap, metal, classical - all of it) was determined to be harmful - caused aggression, lowered test scores, whatever - would you get rid of it?

I'd argue that freedom of expression, including the medium of expression, is more valuable than dubious safety risks.

What if murder if your way of expressing yourself???

There's a fine line between "dubious safety risks" and making a diorama out of someone's intestines.

 

[Jamous]

*snip*

Regarding my avatar: have you ever heard of irony?

Anyway, I'd argue that the video game debate has nothing to do with possible harm. If music, all music (rock, country, rap, metal, classical - all of it) was determined to be harmful - caused aggression, lowered test scores, whatever - would you get rid of it?

I'd argue that freedom of expression, including the medium of expression, is more valuable than dubious safety risks.

What if murder if your way of expressing yourself???

There's a fine line between "dubious safety risks" and making a diorama out of someone's intestines.

Awwwwwww.... But I like entrails! The ancient civilizations did it to tell the future, why can't I put it in the Tate?

 

[Agent Larkin]

I feel that the whole violent videogames = violence argument is a crock of shit. Now I will agree that some people can be influenced by videogames but i doubt it is to the point they go on a killing spree i.e. Columbine.

 

[Lord George]

I wonder if I wonder if the Zelda games make children more heroic and more likely to save princess's?

 

[UltimatheChosen]

I wonder if I wonder if the Zelda games make children more heroic and more likely to save princess's?

A worthy question. Let's start investigating THAT.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

I wonder if I wonder if the Zelda games make children more heroic and more likely to save princess's?

Nah. It just makes little girls more likely to get kidnapped by enforcing gender roles.

 

[Havi]

About the book "Grand Theft Childhood: The Surprising Truth About Violent Vidoegames" which debunks the myth that violent videogames make kids more violent.
http://www.grandtheftchildhood.com/GTC/Home.html

Oh, and if you do some quick research you'll find that violence among kids has decreased each year in America since 1993.

 

[Trilby_V]

Correleation ALWAYS means a direct, non-reversible, causation.

Well, If this is the case then I state that since pirates have been dying, global warming is increasing! Thus, we need to breed more pirates to stop global warming!!!!!!

 

[Mackinator]

Ok of course theres gonna be violence caused by fictional violence at some point.
It is EXTREMELY hard to work out how much of an effect they have.
Many things link to real violence and much of what I see here is blaming violence on ONE thing alone.

 

[Lazarus Long]

I am reminded of Seduction of the Innocent here. For those who fell asleep in Comicbook History, Frederic Wertham was a psychiatrist, and by all accounts a pretty hoopy frood. Until he began working with juvenile delinquents and came to the shocking realization that they almost all read violent comics. Never mind that almost all of their law abiding Beaver Cleaver contemporaries did, too.

Every generation needs a demon to blame for man's inhumanity. Comics, TV, heavy metal, D&D, et cetera. Even Mozart was the Marilyn Manson of his day.

 

[ThrobbingEgo]

I am reminded of Seduction of the Innocent here. For those who fell asleep in Comicbook History, Frederic Wertham was a psychiatrist, and by all accounts a pretty hoopy frood. Until he began working with juvenile delinquents and came to the shocking realization that they almost all read violent comics. Never mind that almost all of their law abiding Beaver Cleaver contemporaries did, too.

I've got (access to) a shabby worn down first edition. My dad's a huge comic geek.

 

[weeman3000]

All science statistics are flawed because everybody is different and their is no 'average' regarding a bunch of people with free will.

If a survey is done down the road from me and it finds 7000 out of 7000 people like rice pudding for breakfast would that mean a 100% of people around me like rice pudding for breakfast?

Would. It. Fuck.

Please, i'm fed up with 'scientific' stats, there is no proof in random sampling. I'm not one of those people who were poked, prodded and monitored so who the fuck gets to say i 'might' get angry during playing games just because those 10,000 guys over there do?

Nobody.

Unless everyone in the world is tested at the same time all stats are strictly bullshit, please pass on this message to any inferior being that likes to hide behind statistics, hypocritical idiots they are.

/rant

 

[ajb924]

Great example of proving there is no link is madworld, i have yet to see a body which died with a tire around it and a sign soved through its skull and when i do see it i will shit myself...

 

[joshhewer]

... I think violent videos games don't cause violence - but agree forum posting may very well do!