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ThrobbingEgo

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Why isn't there any research on kleptomania and the Zelda games? I mean, it stands to reason that if a person is desensitized to violence by preforming virtual violent acts then disrespecting virtual property rights in Zelda or other RPGs (smashing pots, destroying people's hedges, stealing anything that isn't nailed down) should desensitize people from the shock of theft, breaking and entering, and destruction of property. It's the same logic.

I'd argue that stealing and looting is more prevalent in games than grotesque violence and murder. And stealing isn't as severe as murder - people are going to be more naturally repulsed by murder than they are by theft - so the effect that playing these looting games has on a developing person's conscious should be even greater.

Heck, I bet every high school aged burglar has played a video game in which he'd take items that didn't rightly belong to his character. They'd brake into a temple, off some guardians, and steal sacred artefacts - then they'd steal their neighbors' television. Correleation ALWAYS means a direct, non-reversible, causation.

Or maybe people just aren't all that influenced by what they play in fictional settings. :p

Your thoughts, internet people who are obviously predisposed to be murderers, rapists, and burglars?
 

Nageck

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You're arguing to a biased audience. Most members of the Escapist are going to agree with you when you support video games.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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pantsoffdanceoff said:
Oh it's just parents who don't want to take the rap for doing a fucked up job.
Perish the thought.
Nageck said:
You're arguing to a biased audience. Most members of the Escapist are going to agree with you when you support video games.
Consider this preliminary study "peer review."
 

rockingnic

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If this is true, then the cops should search through the achievements/trophies of games that require you to do bad acts to find "future criminals". It'll probably put those things to use finally. :p

If that happens, then I'll be sent to serve 10 life sentences (dammit inFamous and Mass Effect). >_>
 

Agrosmurf

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Escuse me while I go shoot up some hookers... I mean in GTA 4 of course haha!

No but in all seriousness there can been only the most meeger invaled points about linking video game violence and actuall violence. I think people who happen to be playing violent video games and kill someone, where probably going to kill someone regardless of what sort of video game stimulation they are exposed to.
 

Lazarus Long

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You know, there is a chance that my frighteningly poor social skills can be traced back to 8-bit RPG dialogue.
 

Agrosmurf

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Who cares what kind of bias he will find, every one's opinions are different and noted.
 

Akilles79

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Interesting that people tend to agree that violent games dont cause violence, but rape games (thread above) do cause rape, consistent wot?
 

Khazoth

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...It all makes sense now.

Americans are so fat because of Pac-Man!

DAMN YOU PAC-MAN! DAMN YOU!
 

brainfreeze215

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I suddenly feel the urge to go steal something.

Sadly, there will always be scapegoats for poor behavior in children.
 

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Pi_Fighter said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Correleation ALWAYS means a direct, non-reversible, causation.
I hope you are joking.
And I hope that was sarcasm; unless you didn't spot his sarcasm.
He even added a ":p" after his next sentence to make it more obvious.

Well, I agree with you, TE.
It's just easier to blame one specific thing instead of adressing more difficult issues such as the educational system, lack of positive prospects, bad situation on the job-market, mobbing in schools...
The list goes on and on.
Those things, however, can't be solved by introducing a single, populist law, so it's easier to draw everyone's attention away from the real issues at hand and make everybody hate what is "new" and "different".

The same thing happened when the television was introduced, if I remember correctly.
 

ThrobbingEgo

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Pi_Fighter said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Correleation ALWAYS means a direct, non-reversible, causation.
I hope you are joking.
Because if I wasn't 100% serious, I wouldn't have put "always" in capitals or mentioned the possibility of reverse causation...

It's not like I was lampooning a common argument for the purpose of showing how ridiculous it is, or anything. The internet is serious business. I mean, that's where lolcats and Rick Astley come from. There's no joking in their domain.
 

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madbird-valiant said:
I think I'm gonna come to your house, kill you, steal all your coins, and cut an escape hole in your wall.
No, you'll blow up the cracked bricks with your bomb inventory - then hide in a wheelbarrow filled with hay to evade the guards until your alert meter stops flashing.
dontworryaboutit said:
When people try to link violent video games with real violence...I want to brutalize them.
This just in: Anti-video game legislation is correlated to increased levels of aggression in adults.
 

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brainfreeze215 said:
Sadly, there will always be scapegoats for poor behavior in children.
I tend to agree with this.
I believe kids are born with some predispositions, but parenting is also somewhat responsible.

madbird-valiant said:
I think I'm gonna come to your house, kill you, steal all your coins, and cut an escape hole in your wall.
Oh, the irony. XD
 

Tech Team FTW!

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ThrobbingEgo said:
Pi_Fighter said:
ThrobbingEgo said:
Correleation ALWAYS means a direct, non-reversible, causation.
I hope you are joking.
Because if I wasn't 100% serious, I wouldn't have put "always" in capitals or mentioned the possibility of reverse causation...

It's not like I was lampooning a common argument for the purpose of showing how ridiculous it is, or anything. The internet is serious business. I mean, that's where lolcats and Rick Astley come from. There's no joking in their domain.
Sorry.
Being surrounded by idiots has left me rather presumptuous.

Depending on how objectively you view them, lolcats are among the most serious indicators of what is going wrong in society...
 

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Lazarus Long said:
You know, there is a chance that my frighteningly poor social skills can be traced back to 8-bit RPG dialogue.
So you only have one thing to say to any and everyone who crosses your path?