If something is given to you for FREE, do you have the right to complain or rant about it?

[Parasondox]

Time for me to fly my kite into the clouds.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I give to you, this tread.

*cued applause*

Free for you and anyone out there who will give a damn. Some may like. Some may hate it. Some may think I am just flipping strange, weird comment on everything... so I fit in well here at the escapist then.

I am messing around. But really if something is given to you for free, do you still have the right to complain and have a massive vlog/blog rant? I know most of the answers will be "it depends", but I want you to think outside of the box but within the sphere. Eg. this funny tweet. Damn you Funhaus!!!

https://twitter.com/adamkovic/status/576390110834393090

Something tells me many responses may be video game related. GTA Online, GT6 Vision GT content, what ever EA or Ubisoft did wrong and trying to make it up to you with free DLC... for 2 hours only.

And here is a picture of something cute. See, I can be nice.

You better not get offended by this.

 

[Scarim Coral]

Pretty much a no but you CAN refuse to accept it.

Sure you can still comaplain/ rant about it but it will only make you look like an jerk.

captcha- cats and dogs, how fitting.

 

[inmunitas]

Of course, you have the right to complain/criticise anything regardless of whether you've paid for it or not.

 

[Parasondox]

Of course you have the right to complain/criticise something regardless of whether you've paid for it or not.

But then should the content creators give a damn about your complaint?

 

[Keoul]

Yes.
I mean someone could seriously gift me shit wrapped in a box and I can't call him out on it just cause it was free?

But then should the content creators give a damn about your complaint?

Probably if they want more customers, I mean they should listen as criticism but not follow it blindly ya know? cause complaints come all the time but some of it does make sense and could be good suggestions hidden beyond a wall of swear words.

 

[inmunitas]

Of course you have the right to complain/criticise something regardless of whether you've paid for it or not.

But then should the content creators give a damn about your complaint?

Well that depends how you present your complaint and/or if there is any value in it.

 

[Jack Action]

But then should the content creators give a damn about your complaint?

Depends on how big a dick you're being about your complaining and whether they're actually interested in listening to their audience or not.

I mean there's the "here's a list of things that I don't like" vs "hurr worst x ever, go kill yourselves" complaints, but on the flipside there's also the creators' bit: "so, guys, I made this, let me know what you think" vs "I'm so amazing and talented but I'm doing this for free because I'm so generous, if you don't like it you're an ungrateful bunch of assmunchers and you should go kill yourselves."

 

[Hero in a half shell]

There's complaining and then there's constructive criticism (and an infinite mixture of both).

The Tweet you linked seemed to be a combination of both, as he does complain about the issue he has (LPers not knowing basics while playing a game), but also provides a solution (spend a while getting to know game before recording)

In this situation I don't think it's that bad, but really every situation would have to be addressed seperately because it depends how whiny/reasonable they are being.

 

[PsychicTaco115]

But then should the content creators give a damn about your complaint?

If you're giving it constructively, then they could at the very least consider it even if they don't think it's what they want

If you scream about how things are ruining other things while throwing your feces around then yeah, they don't really have to give your words much weight

As with most things, it's all in the presentation! Plus criticism done right is always a valuable thing c:

 

[Parasondox]

Yes.
I mean someone could seriously gift me shit wrapped in a box and I can't call him out on it just cause it was free?

But then should the content creators give a damn about your complaint?

Probably if they want more customers, I mean they should listen as criticism but not follow it blindly ya know? cause complaints come all the time but some of it does make sense and could be good suggestions hidden beyond a wall of swear words.

It's a shame though that the constructive criticism is often over shadowed by the bitter and stupid complaints. Mostly,

"They gave me a free 32GB iPad but I wanted a 64GB iPad"
or
"You are just shit and just selling out trying to make many by having short 10 sec ads in your videos AND SELLING t-shirts. SELL OUTS"

Something like that, I guess.

 

[Zykon TheLich_v1legacy]

It depends. Does it explode in your face or give you typhoid? If it wasn't an unexploded bomb or a labelled sample of typhi bacteria then you probably do. If you were given these things, then you really shouldn't have accepted them.

 

[Parasondox]

There's complaining and then there's constructive criticism (and an infinite mixture of both).

The Tweet you linked seemed to be a combination of both, as he does complain about the issue he has (LPers not knowing basics while playing a game), but also provides a solution (spend a while getting to know game before recording).

Oh I agree but with that tweet, they don't seem to realise, that is how Funhaus (formally Inside Gaming) works, They play awful and broken games and make their content fun. They aren't going to take a broken game seriously. Watch their past Ride to Hell and Chaser videos.

 

[Keoul]

It's a shame though that the constructive criticism is often over shadowed by the bitter and stupid complaints. Mostly,

"They gave me a free 32GB iPad but I wanted a 64GB iPad"
or
"You are just shit and just selling out trying to make many by having short 10 sec ads in your videos AND SELLING t-shirts. SELL OUTS"

Something like that, I guess.

Hey fair enough but those complaints might (and this is a huge might here) have some good reason behind it.

32GB iPad? What if they got it from their business and they need it to show something like massive architecture files in a place without internet and they really needed that extra 32GB?

Ads and t-shirts? maybe the videos itself lasts only 50 seconds with 20 seconds of it advertising their T-shirts?

Sure I'm pretty much making up bullshit scenarios outta thin air to prove my point but all I'm saying is to take both sides into account and not just disregard all complaints and criticisms as people being bitter and whinging.

 

[Hero in a half shell]

There's complaining and then there's constructive criticism (and an infinite mixture of both).

The Tweet you linked seemed to be a combination of both, as he does complain about the issue he has (LPers not knowing basics while playing a game), but also provides a solution (spend a while getting to know game before recording).

Oh I agree but with that tweet, they don't seem to realise, that is how Funhaus (formally Inside Gaming) works, They play awful and broken games and make their content fun. They aren't going to take a broken game seriously. Watch their past Ride to Hell and Chaser videos.

Ahh, fair enough then. If the aim of the game is making the playthrough as anarchic and broken as possible then the 'constructive criticism' provided isn't really in any way useful.

 

[Parasondox]

It's a shame though that the constructive criticism is often over shadowed by the bitter and stupid complaints. Mostly,

"They gave me a free 32GB iPad but I wanted a 64GB iPad"
or
"You are just shit and just selling out trying to make many by having short 10 sec ads in your videos AND SELLING t-shirts. SELL OUTS"

Something like that, I guess.

Hey fair enough but those complaints might (and this is a huge might here) have some good reason behind it.

32GB iPad? What if they got it from their business and they need it to show something like massive architecture files in a place without internet and they really needed that extra 32GB?

Ads and t-shirts? maybe the videos itself lasts only 50 seconds with 20 seconds of it advertising their T-shirts?

Sure I'm pretty much making up bullshit scenarios outta thin air to prove my point but all I'm saying is to take both sides into account and not just disregard all complaints and criticisms as people being bitter and whinging.

Do architects really need to save and show off their work on an iPad? And bullshit scenarios are my speciality.

Also, I am being neutral on the matter. Taking constructive criticism is a good and listening to complaints that may sound whiny because then your next product might take their whining away. Or they still aren't happy because the shade of blue you used isn't the shade of blue they like.

 

[Aeshi]

I'd say you have a right to complain/rant, but whoever gave you the free thing also has the right to not give a shit about your complaints whatsoever unless said thing actually maimed/injured you in some way.

 

[Random Argument Man]

It's a bit like freedom of speech. You can speak whatever you like, but it doesn't mean someone will listen to you or there won't be consequences.

While the complaint had a solution in order to help the creator, he did it in a massive dickish tone. If someone wants results, better prepare the complaint/solution in a way that the creator will listen to you in the first place and actually take your point into account. Then again, that scenario would be in a semi-idealistic world?

 

[Keoul]

Do architects really need to save and show off their work on an iPad? And bullshit scenarios are my speciality.

Also, I am being neutral on the matter. Taking constructive criticism is a good and listening to complaints that may sound whiny because then your next product might take their whining away. Or they still aren't happy because the shade of blue you used isn't the shade of blue they like.

Iunno man, I was thinking something like going to some big-wig architect being paid to design homes or infrastructure in some 3rd world country with no internet and then got shipped out to location to make sure everything is done perfectly. And also he's got a few other jobs going on at the same time so he has a few different blueprints on there or maybe he's just too goddamn lazy to delete it all.

 

[TheMysteriousGX]

Considering game review people are frequently given copies of games for free, I certainly hope they're allowed to complain about them! XD

 

[ForumSafari]

Of course you have a right. The entire FOSS movement is built on people expressing their displeasure with stuff that didn't cost them money. Hell there's another SSL issue being announced Friday, all of our Linux VMs are free, as is the software on them, but you can bet your arse I'm going to get angry when i see the fault.

Of course, this all comes with the expectation that the anger is driven by a desire to improve the situation.