If the atomic bomb was developed in the Middle Ages...

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gmer412

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Inarticulate_Underachiever said:
I don't want to set the world on fire...
Just set Jupiter on fire. It burns surprisingly well.

OT: The crusades would have been the one crusade. I don't think anyone would've survived the first nuclear strike.
 

CapnGod

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Akalabeth said:
Uh . . . if there were people smart enough to make A-bombs there probably weren't people dumb enough to accuse others of witchcraft.

Similarly, you can't "drop the bomb" unless you either have planes, or rockets, and if you planes and rockets what do you need a-bombs for against your bow firing enemies? They wouldn't have used them during the crusades either, teh crusades were meant to retake the holy land. You don't nuke Jerusalem.

This is a pretty dumb thread all around. If someone in the middle ages is smart enough to have an a-bomb then it's not the middle ages anymore it's just the modern times 500 years earlier and if one group has that technology then just imagine a world where everyone's shooting bow and arrow except one country has tanks and plane and nuclear bombs.
People actually believe that Jesus is going to come and pick them up before the Antichrist unleashes destruction on this planet. I'm just saying, people will believe some pretty far out shit.

Also, pointing out the ridiculousness of the thread after the original poster said as much and said it was for wild speculation anyway is trolltastic.

As for on topic, well, it matters who had control of the bomb(s?). One bomb probably wouldn't change much. Bomb go boom, people die, end of story. No valid threat to hold over anyone. Bombs, on the other hand, would allow a group to demonstrate the power thereof and threaten others. So, in a multiple bomb situation, given the tendencies of people back then, we'd be ruled by the iron fist of some religion. Just depends on who had it. Except the French. We all know why.
 

lazzars

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without the dark ages napoleon would likely have been nuking moscow soooooo (where was i going?)

anyway, the whole point of warring in the middle ages was for money, remember nations didn't really exist in that time and without nationals you don't get patriotic wars. you only get wars for spoils and glory, no city = no spoils

in short i don't think they would really have much use for a nuke
 

Aptspire

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Christianity: believe, or we shall mutate you
also, the crusades would have lasted half a day
and we'd all be catholics now D:
 

CapnGod

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Ok, I know it was in the original post, but why assume that Europe would have had it? Of all the societies to have had it, the most likely would have been China. Europe in the middle ages was little more than a group of superstitious retards.

lazzars said:
anyway, the whole point of warring in the middle ages was for money, remember nations didn't really exist in that time and without nationals you don't get patriotic wars. you only get wars for spoils and glory, no city = no spoils
Also, I'm sorry, but can I get an ounce or two of whatever it is you've been smoking? That must be some good shit.
 

lazzars

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CapnGod said:
Also, I'm sorry, but can I get an ounce or two of whatever it is you've been smoking? That must be some good shit.
if not for their leaders to get richer and rule more people what other early point was there for people to go to war for in the middle ages

religion? always used as an excuse for the smarter people to force stupid people to die for them

scraps between siblings? when two princes only get half what do they want? the other half, this is wealth and power again

every war right up until the dawn of nationalism was to do with seeing something (usually wealth) someone else had and trying to find some way to take it from them



go on capt. smartarse wikipedia your way into a reposte



also there is no more chance for the chinese to get the bomb before the arabs.
 

CapnGod

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lazzars said:
nations didn't really exist in that time
Now, can I get an ounce of whatever shit it is you've been smoking? Middle ages? No nations? What the fuck are you talking about? I think the British, the Portuguese, the Italians, and maybe even the French would have something to say about that.

You know, when, in the Middle Ages, people fought The Crusades over supposedly holy land in Jerusalem? Or did you miss hearing about that?
 

Kikosemmek

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Sink, Albion! Sink!

No, seriously, I'd nuke the English and erase centuries of pretentious nonsense, except for their rock and roll.

More seriously, I'd sell it to some dodgy Middle Eastern (traitor, I know) buyer and use the funds to get started on Rapture early on. Imagine how awesome it would be to zap knights and champions with your hand in an underwater nucleus, completely out of touch with the proceedings of history!

That's about as serious as I'll allow myself to get. Silly discussion is silly, but amusing.
 

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Johnn Johnston said:
Odds are? Would have been used during the Crusades, then in most major international wars after that point. These were the Middle Ages; they weren't really keen on the whole "But you're murdering a city of innocents" mentality.
This. You could have waved goodbye to the French, Spainish, and Scots for a start, probably the English, Dutch, and Germans too, and thats before you get to the Middle East.
 

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Well the crusades, would have been easier, nuclear power would be a widely used, cheap source of energy.

We have to remember that when something bad is done it almost always leads to something good. Because we bombed Hiroshima The Japanese way of life drastically and for the better. World war two in general led to an technological boom in its aftermath for the entire world. imagine taking that boom, pun not intended, and starting it in the crusades. it would be a good thing all in all i think.

WELL, unless our less intelligent ancestors ended up causing a nuclear winter.
 

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Johnn Johnston said:
Odds are? Would have been used during the Crusades, then in most major international wars after that point. These were the Middle Ages; they weren't really keen on the whole "But you're murdering a city of innocents" mentality.
But they're infidels/heathen! They deserve it!
 

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If they had Nukes then the trade routes would have been gone because they wouldn't want to go to a place where all the inhabitants are dead from the inablilty to realize how to not set off the bomb they built. Also the east would have never known there were westerners do to the lack of people the Mongols might have gone the other way and yes they were being chased out by the more agressive tribes west and thus pushing them east and as for the Emperor of China he would soon grow in power do to their unique way to over come probelems.