If you could delete one game forever, what would it be?
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The problem is that I need to come up with a game that doesn't have sequels that sent the industry careening down a path that I didn't much care for. It's pretty clear that gaming has diverged from my own tastes pretty substantially. It's sad when I can pick up an issue of Game Informer (yeah, yeah, it's crap, I hear you), and only really be intrigued by one or two games in the issue, almost none of which are actually the featured game.
Part of me wants to get rid of Final Fantasy VII, not because it was a bad game, but because of what the long-term effects have been on the RPG genre as a whole. But the same effect would have been wrought with FFVIII, so it's useless. A similar effect occurs with Grand Theft Auto III. Games that had strong effects on the market are typically not one-hit wonders, so they stick around, and games that weren't very successful were just that, and don't have the sort of influence on the market to make it worth deleting them, especially in the case of games that are just awful.
We could delete those CD-i Zelda games... but those don't exist. I don't even know where that idea came from.
Actually, let's go with FFVII. I can imagine an alternative history where SquareSoft doesn't pursue their CG-laden vision, and still produce games for the N64, keeping Nintendo's profile sky-high and dooming Sony's initial bid in the market, and perhaps even keeping Sega as a hardware manufacturer alive. The subsequent games just end up on a different platform, and maybe, just maybe, S-E focuses more on gameplay than the budget.
Or we could just delete Big Rigs, or Drake of the 99 Dragons, or Superman 64.
Part of me wants to get rid of Final Fantasy VII, not because it was a bad game, but because of what the long-term effects have been on the RPG genre as a whole. But the same effect would have been wrought with FFVIII, so it's useless. A similar effect occurs with Grand Theft Auto III. Games that had strong effects on the market are typically not one-hit wonders, so they stick around, and games that weren't very successful were just that, and don't have the sort of influence on the market to make it worth deleting them, especially in the case of games that are just awful.
We could delete those CD-i Zelda games... but those don't exist. I don't even know where that idea came from.
Actually, let's go with FFVII. I can imagine an alternative history where SquareSoft doesn't pursue their CG-laden vision, and still produce games for the N64, keeping Nintendo's profile sky-high and dooming Sony's initial bid in the market, and perhaps even keeping Sega as a hardware manufacturer alive. The subsequent games just end up on a different platform, and maybe, just maybe, S-E focuses more on gameplay than the budget.
Or we could just delete Big Rigs, or Drake of the 99 Dragons, or Superman 64.
Isn't there one game you know of that doesn't have a right to exist?Racecarlock said:
I believe that you can learn things even from shitty games, but New Super Mario Bros. U has nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to offer ANYBODY that 8 other Mario games didn't already offer.
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
This loathsome pile of garbage is the single canonical stain on an otherwise fantastic series.
Repetitive gameplay using a control scheme unfit for the hardware and a micro-managing mechanic which didn't work very well.
A plot that plodded at sub-snail pace, focusing on a brand-new character rather than the actual protagonist, needlessly complicating the terms of the protagonist's existence/abilities and altogether missing an obvious opportunity to flesh out the many pre-existing characters who were even given fully-playable status for the Mission Mode.
Days is a huge missed opportunity, a boring narrative which teeters on the border between canon and filler... and the gameplay couldn't even try to be fun.
This loathsome pile of garbage is the single canonical stain on an otherwise fantastic series.
Repetitive gameplay using a control scheme unfit for the hardware and a micro-managing mechanic which didn't work very well.
A plot that plodded at sub-snail pace, focusing on a brand-new character rather than the actual protagonist, needlessly complicating the terms of the protagonist's existence/abilities and altogether missing an obvious opportunity to flesh out the many pre-existing characters who were even given fully-playable status for the Mission Mode.
Days is a huge missed opportunity, a boring narrative which teeters on the border between canon and filler... and the gameplay couldn't even try to be fun.
Considering that this game was one of the reasons, that the 80's video game crash occurred which almost killed video gaming. I would also delete the game from existence.Magnus Greel said:
I would say delete Halo Reach or Halo 4. Halo 3 should of been the last game of the series... At least I would only have good memories instead of bad ones with bloom, armor abilities, join in progress, camping in swordbase, crappy maps in Halo 4, etc etc.
Alright, I'm a Sonic the Hedgehog fan so there is one game I want erased from the world. And that game is:
You thought it was Sonic 06 didn't you?
What can I say, the Hedgehog's 15th Anniversary was indeed a troubling one, but while 06 was terrible this game was worse by the sheer fact that it took something good, and completely screwed it up.
What is Sonic Genesis you might ask, well SEGA decided to port of Sonic the Hedgehog 1 onto the GameBoy Advanced for Sonic's 15th Birthday, and this game was released the same day as 06. What's added to it, well the speed cap on Sonic is removed, and he can now spin dash. That's where the only 2 good things about the port end. Time to get into the terrible parts.
For one, the framerate will chug miserably on the GBA, emulators as well, in certain areas for some unknown reason. Second, the music was bit-crunched...that's right, SEGA decided to bit-crunch a game that was on the Genesis, a 16-bit console, for a handheld that could play Donkey Kong Country and was just about as powerful as a Genesis, was bit crunched. It's like when Capcom bit-crunched the Legends music when they ported the games to the PSP.
Second, the physics in the game are wonky as all can be, seemed to be a staple of Sonic's 15th Anniversary, maybe he had some sort of grudge against Newton or something. Anyway, your momentum jumps around like crazy, and you speed up when going up an incline. Yes you read that correctly, you go faster when going up a hill rather than down. Combined with the framerate issues there will be instances of you going very fast to suddenly extremely slow, and when you try to stop you still fly forward. The reason for the whacked out physics is because SEGA got lazy and literally has Sonic Genesis running of the Sonic Advance engine. For anyone who ever wants to go into game design, never just port an engine exactly over for a game than never used something like it. Want another example of whack out physics see Sonic 4 Episode 1 as that actually runs off a straight port of the Sonic Rush engine...
Worst of all, and this was something many ported games for the GBA were known for, the lovely screen crunch. The screen crunch makes certain obstacles even more deadly. You will be blind-sided by Badniks, crushers, and bosses constantly because of how bad the screen crunch is. It's especially bad in Final Zone when facing Dr. Robotnik for the final time.
Sonic Genesis needs to be wiped away for good, because while Sonic 06 was bad, it was bad from the start. While Sonic Genesis took a game that was well loved and adored, and somehow managed to ruin it for many.
You thought it was Sonic 06 didn't you?
What is Sonic Genesis you might ask, well SEGA decided to port of Sonic the Hedgehog 1 onto the GameBoy Advanced for Sonic's 15th Birthday, and this game was released the same day as 06. What's added to it, well the speed cap on Sonic is removed, and he can now spin dash. That's where the only 2 good things about the port end. Time to get into the terrible parts.
For one, the framerate will chug miserably on the GBA, emulators as well, in certain areas for some unknown reason. Second, the music was bit-crunched...that's right, SEGA decided to bit-crunch a game that was on the Genesis, a 16-bit console, for a handheld that could play Donkey Kong Country and was just about as powerful as a Genesis, was bit crunched. It's like when Capcom bit-crunched the Legends music when they ported the games to the PSP.
Second, the physics in the game are wonky as all can be, seemed to be a staple of Sonic's 15th Anniversary, maybe he had some sort of grudge against Newton or something. Anyway, your momentum jumps around like crazy, and you speed up when going up an incline. Yes you read that correctly, you go faster when going up a hill rather than down. Combined with the framerate issues there will be instances of you going very fast to suddenly extremely slow, and when you try to stop you still fly forward. The reason for the whacked out physics is because SEGA got lazy and literally has Sonic Genesis running of the Sonic Advance engine. For anyone who ever wants to go into game design, never just port an engine exactly over for a game than never used something like it. Want another example of whack out physics see Sonic 4 Episode 1 as that actually runs off a straight port of the Sonic Rush engine...
Worst of all, and this was something many ported games for the GBA were known for, the lovely screen crunch. The screen crunch makes certain obstacles even more deadly. You will be blind-sided by Badniks, crushers, and bosses constantly because of how bad the screen crunch is. It's especially bad in Final Zone when facing Dr. Robotnik for the final time.
Sonic Genesis needs to be wiped away for good, because while Sonic 06 was bad, it was bad from the start. While Sonic Genesis took a game that was well loved and adored, and somehow managed to ruin it for many.
Zelda: The Ocarina of time because I didn't get the chance to steal Christmas.
OT I can't think of any title I've played that the world could do without. Even crap games, as they show that great games really are great. For example, if more of us played Retribution Ride to Hell we might have realised Dead Space 3 was a good game in spite of some silly design choices.
OT I can't think of any title I've played that the world could do without. Even crap games, as they show that great games really are great. For example, if more of us played Retribution Ride to Hell we might have realised Dead Space 3 was a good game in spite of some silly design choices.
Tomb Raider: Anger of Darkness.
There's a reason they took a break and started the franchise over after that bomb hit.
There's a reason they took a break and started the franchise over after that bomb hit.
Hm.
If we're going at this from a greatest social good standpoint, I'd say World of Warcraft. I know people who lost jobs, who stopped eating and bathing because of that game; and while I suspect more of the blame goes to the individual than to the game, still. It would bum me out that there'd be no inspiration for Mogworld, though.
If we're going at this from a charity angle, I say Ultima 9, because with any luck the game would be replaced with a much better ending than the one it got.
...But I can't delete either of those, since the rules of the game are it can only be a game I've personally played, so, sorry, Final Fantasy X-2, your name is being erased from the Book of Life. Nothing about you was interesting or amusing, and when you can say that about a game that includes scenes of three hard-bodied girls wrestling in a spa, something has gone very wrong.
If we're going at this from a greatest social good standpoint, I'd say World of Warcraft. I know people who lost jobs, who stopped eating and bathing because of that game; and while I suspect more of the blame goes to the individual than to the game, still. It would bum me out that there'd be no inspiration for Mogworld, though.
If we're going at this from a charity angle, I say Ultima 9, because with any luck the game would be replaced with a much better ending than the one it got.
...But I can't delete either of those, since the rules of the game are it can only be a game I've personally played, so, sorry, Final Fantasy X-2, your name is being erased from the Book of Life. Nothing about you was interesting or amusing, and when you can say that about a game that includes scenes of three hard-bodied girls wrestling in a spa, something has gone very wrong.
If I'm going to be honest and fair and everything, none at all, as others have said. The medium is still in its infancy and it's growing along with us. Any stumbling blocks are lessons to be learned, and we'll eventually reach a point where gaming might not necessarily be considered an art form by the truly pedantic, but where it might at least have gained a definitive form of refinement.
If I'm going to indulge in my own frustrations, however, I'd say Modern Warfare the first in name. The emergence of that series seems to coincide with the rise of gaming as a truly mainstream pastime, which is something I have no problems with, intrinsically. I do, however, have a problem with the caliber of people that jumped in. I've met great people in my time online, but I've also met idiots who sort of tear through the somewhat endearing label of "kidult" and careen straight into Entitled Mealy-Mouthed Douchebag territory.
Honestly, I think the entire industry could do without performance-obsessed thirty and fortysomethings that try and improve their gamer cred by spouting obscenities in a microphone. I can excuse adolescents and some twentysomethings, because a lot of folks in this age range tend to have a few years' worth of mandatory stupidity. I'm not part of the bitter sorts that retort with "L2P, nub!", but I'd really like to toss a reminder to all performance-obsessed mainstream FPS players. It goes as follows.
Ahem.
This is a game. Nothing but code sandwiched somewhere in the magnetic fields inside your hard drive. You are not your Prestige level. You are not your Kill/Death ratio. You are not the number of air strikes you've called. You are not your successful Quickscope shots. You are a grain of sand lost in an ocean of similarly frothing maniacs. You are not your supposedly ironic MLG kill montage you've put together to the sound of Skrillex because everyone else has done it ironically.
If none of that gets through to you, you Hypothetical Performance Player Person... You. Need. To. Get. Out.
Get some fresh air. Please, for the love of all that is holy, socialize. Leave your online exploits at home, while you're at it. Rediscover the joy of being a sociable person, instead of the ball of immature rage you've turned yourself into.
If I'm going to indulge in my own frustrations, however, I'd say Modern Warfare the first in name. The emergence of that series seems to coincide with the rise of gaming as a truly mainstream pastime, which is something I have no problems with, intrinsically. I do, however, have a problem with the caliber of people that jumped in. I've met great people in my time online, but I've also met idiots who sort of tear through the somewhat endearing label of "kidult" and careen straight into Entitled Mealy-Mouthed Douchebag territory.
Honestly, I think the entire industry could do without performance-obsessed thirty and fortysomethings that try and improve their gamer cred by spouting obscenities in a microphone. I can excuse adolescents and some twentysomethings, because a lot of folks in this age range tend to have a few years' worth of mandatory stupidity. I'm not part of the bitter sorts that retort with "L2P, nub!", but I'd really like to toss a reminder to all performance-obsessed mainstream FPS players. It goes as follows.
Ahem.
This is a game. Nothing but code sandwiched somewhere in the magnetic fields inside your hard drive. You are not your Prestige level. You are not your Kill/Death ratio. You are not the number of air strikes you've called. You are not your successful Quickscope shots. You are a grain of sand lost in an ocean of similarly frothing maniacs. You are not your supposedly ironic MLG kill montage you've put together to the sound of Skrillex because everyone else has done it ironically.
If none of that gets through to you, you Hypothetical Performance Player Person... You. Need. To. Get. Out.
Get some fresh air. Please, for the love of all that is holy, socialize. Leave your online exploits at home, while you're at it. Rediscover the joy of being a sociable person, instead of the ball of immature rage you've turned yourself into.
None, I couldn't be so cruel, though my answer isn't very original looking at this thread.
That being said, if I had a gun pointed to my head, I would probably ask what the guy's problems was, and say Wii Music. I don't think I need to say why.
That being said, if I had a gun pointed to my head, I would probably ask what the guy's problems was, and say Wii Music. I don't think I need to say why.
Clearly the OP has no idea how causality works.
everyone knows that if you erase any game from existence, Then Hitler wins world war II.
We shouldn't use such power irresponsibly.
everyone knows that if you erase any game from existence, Then Hitler wins world war II.
We shouldn't use such power irresponsibly.
What if the game was broken as all can be and can barely even be played. Perhaps like a certain Hedgehog's adventure on the Gameboy Advance. XDHero of Lime said:
Seriously, only way to enjoy this game is with a friend because then you have someone to rage with. Look at those framerate drops and listen to that bit crunched music...poor Sonic.
Also, in that video that is the game running on a GameBoy Player, you can tell because the colors are a bit washed out in some areas like how the GameBoy Player does sometimes.
...worst part is I'm gonna LP it on my GameBoy Player later this weekend...T^T
You see, even there, I would probably be taking away something moviebob enjoys and we probably wouldn't have yahtzee's angry mini review of it. So, yeah.IPunchWithMyFists said:
I could tell you about games I really don't like. Would that be fine?