"if you don't like America then you can git out!"
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I wish I had time for a proper response. You have my sympathies in all of the above. Just don't come to the UK because we're tragically moving closer to the US model. Especially in terms of politicians who don't give a shit. Tragic when you think of the glorious politicians of the past, whose careers meant somethingPhanlix said:
Pshaw. That, a rant? Bah! That was a blurb, at best, I just happen to be quite wordy in my mannerisms and questions, no matter how full of rhetoric they may be. Were I to rant, I would see the phrase "AUGH WALL OF TEXT!!" repeated ad humorum, or ad nauseum for people who cannot stand those simple derisive posts. That I muse in text my opinions on such things is there really to amuse or entertain those of similar mind, note denote some poor fellow for being a silly about himself. No no, my dear friend, that was nothing akin to a rant, but merely a short little anecdote that crossed my mind as I read the topic, and the post therein.Bretty said:
Oh, and before I forget about that little bit, I'd like to bring up both Plato and Hobbes, both of whom had a profound, phenomenal impact on the creation of practically every new political document since their respective times, and both generally viewed quite favorably. But, let us not forget, they were extremely tyrannical in their own rights. Plato thought the world should only be ruled by the philosopher kings, because the people who were too ignorant to concieve the greater meanings and workings of life should have no place ruling the world, a thought I agree to with most of my being. Hobbes would say that people on their own are brutish, mean, nasty, unpleasant, greedy, selfish pissants (I'm paraphrasing a bit, and believe me on this, I'm actually being much nicer in my language than he was in his) who would sooner watch the world burn to the ground for a dollar than try and help it for the same price. Both said that the common people should be supressed, and kept way the hell out of politics in the first place, and believed strongly in the concept of autocratic democracy. Rousseau's no less guilty of this, he's just a little less verbose, and Machiavelli is practically joyful compared to some of Plato's more cynical writings.Bretty said:
Oh, whoo, another fan? Ooooh, and one who has had the good fortune of having studied? I'm amazed, I hadn't expected to hear that side of things in a rant thread. I tip my hat to you, sir, for your well-timed counter point for both the gentlemen you mentioned above.JaredXE said:
Dude this rant was awesome im only 14 and I love this frickin(pg)country i will admit it has flaws like u said but its still the best in the world think about it this is like the only country where there hasnt been killins over power and so forth everybody should grateful as hell( pg-13)
Phanlix said:
I've always said that America's economy should just cop out and start imitating Germany.
They're doing pretty well.
Imagine if Germany's economic policies were employed in a country the size of the United States, with a huge GDP. It'd be like having an America sized Germany, that runs on gasoline and puts ketchup on everything.
With a really big, well funded, army...
...
Watch out, everyone else...
They're doing pretty well.
Imagine if Germany's economic policies were employed in a country the size of the United States, with a huge GDP. It'd be like having an America sized Germany, that runs on gasoline and puts ketchup on everything.
With a really big, well funded, army...
...
Watch out, everyone else...
Git: Git is the Hillbilly's term for "get". It can be used for any sentences with the word "get". It just makes it sounds a little less intelligent and a hell of a lot more confusing.SplicedUp068 said:
Have you ever heard this quote? I'm not sure who came up with it, but it's relatively well known. Google it if you want to find the author. It goes like this:
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.
During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith
2. From spiritual faith to great courage
3. From courage to liberty
4. From liberty to abundance
5. From abundance to complacency
6. From complacency to apathy
7. From apathy to dependence
8. From dependence back into bondage
Several books that I've read have used this quote to describe the current downward spiral that America is in. I'm not sure exactly which step I would say that the country is in, but to make an educated guess, I would say we're nearing the bottom.
A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.
From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.
The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years.
During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:
1. From bondage to spiritual faith
2. From spiritual faith to great courage
3. From courage to liberty
4. From liberty to abundance
5. From abundance to complacency
6. From complacency to apathy
7. From apathy to dependence
8. From dependence back into bondage
Several books that I've read have used this quote to describe the current downward spiral that America is in. I'm not sure exactly which step I would say that the country is in, but to make an educated guess, I would say we're nearing the bottom.
The meaning of that saying doesn't mean to actually "get out" it just means "Leave me alone, you liberal idiots, we should drill in Alaska, go to war with Iraq, and not educate our kids in place of making them hulking and stupid football players." It's a patriotic-right wing saying. And I agree with it. As I'm a Christian, Right Wing, Patriotic person who believes Bush was right to send us in to Iraq. I'm not in the mood for flame wars, so please just scroll on down if you don't agree.
All this trouble stems from one problem- institutionalized theft and murder. If all you do is mind your own business, nonetheless persons whom you have never made contract with, and to whom you have incurred no debt will demand tribute from you on pain of death, and use it to great evil. Eliminate these ills, and all this becomes a moot point. Join the Counter-Economy, and eliminate these ills.
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God, not another anarchist. It's not as if the system even damn well works, let alone would create anything similar to the free market. In case you haven't noticed, every economist, intellectual, thinker and anyone half-sane for the past three centuaries has noted that for the existence of any economic activity beyond the primitive level, you need law and order. At least regular anarchists understood this, unlike these new idiots.Rooster Cogburn said: