[IGN]Top Five Reasons Dark Souls Will Eat Skyrim's Face

[TheDooD]

The article should read top 5 reasons IGN doesn't know anything about games..
I mean seriously anyone who cares that Skyrim doesn't have multiplayer doesn't get RPG's of the scope of Skyrim.
And the other points struck me and simply laughably wrong..
Anyone who thinks any other game would ever beat an elder scrolls games in terms of scope or completeness just plain hasn't played an elder scrolls game.

So you're saying that the combat in Skyrim is going to be better than the combat in Dark Souls?

Did I say the combat was better?
To be honest the combat will probably be plain different, I'm guessing dark souls combat will be twitch, god of war style hack and slash. While Skyrim will be standard for the elderscrolls series...
As to what is better that all depends on what you want..

Its like asking is ice cream with chocolate sprinkles better than a pickle and ham sandwich?

Dark Souls combat would be nothing like GoW. Like Demons Souls you have to pick your points, 8-way running, dodge rolling, parrying and backstabing is strongly encouraged with straight up melee combat.

OT

Ice cream w/ chocolate sprinkles with a pickle and ham sandwich sounds like something a pregnant woman would love.

 

[Zay-el]

What this thread has taught me is that PC exclusive gamers don't seem to be able to add anything productive to the discussion. Elitist my ass... more like... nevermind... I'll avoid the banhammer on this one.

Note to above posters: It's okay guys, you can buy a console, your computer won't divorce you if you do! Then you won't miss out on one the best games of this gen (if Demon's Souls is any indication).

I live in a university hostel and alternate between staying there, going home to my father's place, or my mother's place. I'll break my engagement off with my laptop if you tell me where a console fits into this equation, all the while juggling the cost of that and games for it(which cost more in Hungary than in your country, I'll bet you that) next to university.

 

[Aesmodan]

Stupid question time from the casual gamer who didn't know IGN had this rep:

I wrote off IGN a long while ago, but I chalked it up to having very different gaming tastes than most of its reviewers.

That said: what are considered the best/most authoritative game review sites?

OT: are the stories linear? How much essential storyline would I be missing by playing Skyrim and Dark Souls before Oblivion and Demons Souls? Should I absolutely play those first?

Cheers,
-Aes

 

[Gaijud]

Ok, seriously this article can't possibly be expected to be taken seriously. These games are so completely different that it seems foolish to even compare them. When you boil down to it, one is a story-driven rpg and the other is an action adventure game.

Anyway, troll article aside, I will still be getting both! Why should I love one more than the other?

 

[shadowelancer]

1. By there standards that means any Bioware, Bethesda and alot of other peoples rpgs are worse than one with multiplayer
2. your saying that getting things that cant dissapear because a server gets wiped or my computer dies IS A BAD THING. oh right and the whole "DLC IS A VERY VERY BAD THING COMPARED TO NOTHING BEYOND VANILLA GAME GRRRRRRRR" in my mind that makes everything else IGN says invalid
3. So before the game even comes out your already declaring skyrim full of "fetchy and to-and-fro quests" again your own writing has made your statement invalid
4. i will admit that challenging game play is new but again theyve dont NOTHING to change it, all they did was just import the engine from before and break for lunch.
5. Just because a game has "crazy ass, insane dragons" (a statement that in my mind again invalidates the article) doesnt mean a damn thing since theyve already done dragons, TES had no dragons and you even PLAY a dragonborn therefore IGN's article is wrong AGAIN

The fact that IGN gave NOTHING to Skyrim and every single thing was a Dark Souls win indicates that From Software has a REALLY good bribery department, and has also confirmed IGN's place on my website blacklist. Congratulations should go to IGN for confirming to gamers everywhere how willing they are to whore themselves out.

 

[T8B95]

Personally, I just think that we've just been trolled:

Spoiler

Annoying troll song:

If not, then I think that I'm amused and somewhat impressed at how authoritative IGN can state facts that they pulled right out of their asses. Neither game has been released, and therefore we will not know which one is better until we play both. I'll personally be getting Skyrim, as I didn't particularly like Demon's Souls and I loved Oblivion, Morrowind, and Fallout 3. I however accept that this is my own opinion and I`m not about to crucify anyone for getting Dark Souls instead of Skyrim.

Now, if people get Modern Warfare 3 instead of Skyrim on the other hand...

 

[Nomanslander]

From the nine pages here on Escapist forums I can tell the Dark Soul fans and the Skyrim fans are taking defense and attacking the other game.

IGNs mission has been accomplished....>>

 

[IronicBeet]

The article should read top 5 reasons IGN doesn't know anything about games..
I mean seriously anyone who cares that Skyrim doesn't have multiplayer doesn't get RPG's of the scope of Skyrim.
And the other points struck me and simply laughably wrong..
Anyone who thinks any other game would ever beat an elder scrolls games in terms of scope or completeness just plain hasn't played an elder scrolls game.

So you're saying that the combat in Skyrim is going to be better than the combat in Dark Souls?

Did I say the combat was better?
To be honest the combat will probably be plain different, I'm guessing dark souls combat will be twitch, god of war style hack and slash. While Skyrim will be standard for the elderscrolls series...
As to what is better that all depends on what you want..

Its like asking is ice cream with chocolate sprinkles better than a pickle and ham sandwich?

You must not have played Demon's Souls if you think the combat is God of War-style.

And I was talking about your "And the other points seem laughably wrong" comment.

I'm not saying I like the article (Though I do agree with the basic idea anyway) but I don't think anyone can honestly say that the combat in TES is better than the combat in Demon's Souls/Dark Souls.

 

[TheAceTheOne]

You can't spell ignorant without IGN.
Damn, ninjas!
This article sounds a bit too much like someone got payed to write it in favor of Dark Souls. Jeez, they could have at least made it less obvious. Corrupt idiots.

Didn't Dark Souls win on every category? I think it did...

Definitely fixed. They paid attention to everything but the tried and true aspects of game design... You know, stuff like graphics, story, sound design, immersion and gameplay.

 

[Tehshi]

1: While I agree that multiplayer is NOT a necessity for a good game it most certainly DOES help. Its not like They took away from the single player for multiplayer either, Demon souls was kind of known for having it areas revolving around signle player where if you had a group of 3 it would be a tight corridored mess.

Wait a second, I'm legitimately confused here. What I see that they made poor accommodation for multiplayer, so I guess you're right that it didn't take away from singleplayer, but having multiplayer that feels tacked-on like that is generally just a bad idea, and not an argument that should be used for a game.

3: You have to admit this part of the article is TECHNICALLY true. It has been confirmed multiple times that skyrim will not be necessarily larger bur FEEL larger when it comes ot map size. On the other hand Dark souls has increased map size quite a bit. I think in actual scope skyrim won this one but please dont simply ignore dark souls effort here.

I wasn't trying to say that Dark Souls isn't an improvement, I'm just saying that it's silly to say improving makes it "better" in this category because (to me) it seems that Dark Souls is now on the same level as Skyrim as far as scope.

4: Wow, now I realize i am dealing with an ignorant twat who is just a fanboy of Skyrim because everyone else is. Good job. The gameplay for Dark souls is stunning. Weapon feel as if they have weight and you have a much greater and tighter control over your character. If you are choosing to ignore this simply to stick with your hype group go ahead, but your missing out.

I just didn't like the emphasis the article put on how "hardcore" the game is (they seriously said hardcore at least 5 times in this section alone), because I generally find that hardcore doesn't always mean "fun".

5: One must note that there has been alot more released information on Dark Souls. When looking at it we see alot more of whats in store than what skyrim has been showing. While alot of Skyrim information is udner wraps we can simply assume it plays like oblivion with quite a few changes. Dark souls on the other hand has alot of its information right out. For instance with Skyrim from what we have seen so far is there are fire dragons, ice dragons and they appear to fly around alot and eat guards. Thats awesome. However on Demon souls we have seen more of the different types of dragons in the world and what their abilities are and with the combat system of dark souls they are sure to be epic fights (unless they just stick to walls like in demons souls).

I am going to have to say skyrim wins on the dragons for now, simply because there is so much potential of what we know they can do, and will be able to do, along with the integral part of the story they represent.

Fully in agreement here, but you put it much better than I could. I was actually commenting on the fact that IGN was already touting the Dark Souls dragons when so little has been released from Skyrim so far. (I, for one, refuse to believe that there will only be fire and frost dragons in Skyrim. Because there can definitely be so much more.)

Overall I am getting both but think I will enjoy Dark souls combat and gameplay more over skyrim. I am sure Skyrims storylines and quests will be considerably more epic, along with the immense freedom you get in that type of world.

Don't be an ignorant bastard, give both games credit where credit is do.

I guess I felt the need to give Skyrim some extra credit since IGN had given it so little. I definitely agree with you, that they both have potential to be great games. However, based on my previous experience with each of the these games predecessors, I think I'll enjoy Skyrim much more, but I will definitely have to check out Dark Souls.

 

[kebab4you]

You can't spell ignorant without IGN.
Damn, ninjas!
This article sounds a bit too much like someone got payed to write it in favor of Dark Souls. Jeez, they could have at least made it less obvious. Corrupt idiots.

Didn't Dark Souls win on every category? I think it did...

Definitely fixed. They paid attention to everything but the tried and true aspects of game design... You know, stuff like graphics, story, sound design, immersion and gameplay.

Graphics SHOULD NOT be a point to consider when judging a game, switch that to aesthetics and I agree.

 

[TheAceTheOne]

You can't spell ignorant without IGN.
Damn, ninjas!
This article sounds a bit too much like someone got payed to write it in favor of Dark Souls. Jeez, they could have at least made it less obvious. Corrupt idiots.

Didn't Dark Souls win on every category? I think it did...

Definitely fixed. They paid attention to everything but the tried and true aspects of game design... You know, stuff like graphics, story, sound design, immersion and gameplay.

Graphics SHOULD NOT be a point to consider when judging a game, switch that to aesthetics and I agree.

Did you watch that episode of Extra Credits too? I (incorrectly) use graphics and aesthetics interchangeably sometimes.

 

[kebab4you]

You can't spell ignorant without IGN.
Damn, ninjas!
This article sounds a bit too much like someone got payed to write it in favor of Dark Souls. Jeez, they could have at least made it less obvious. Corrupt idiots.

Didn't Dark Souls win on every category? I think it did...

Definitely fixed. They paid attention to everything but the tried and true aspects of game design... You know, stuff like graphics, story, sound design, immersion and gameplay.

Graphics SHOULD NOT be a point to consider when judging a game, switch that to aesthetics and I agree.

Did you watch that episode of Extra Credits too? I (incorrectly) use graphics and aesthetics interchangeably sometimes.

Idd I did, why I got a new habit of correcting ppl that misuse the two words.

 

[TheAceTheOne]

You can't spell ignorant without IGN.
Damn, ninjas!
This article sounds a bit too much like someone got payed to write it in favor of Dark Souls. Jeez, they could have at least made it less obvious. Corrupt idiots.

Didn't Dark Souls win on every category? I think it did...

Definitely fixed. They paid attention to everything but the tried and true aspects of game design... You know, stuff like graphics, story, sound design, immersion and gameplay.

Graphics SHOULD NOT be a point to consider when judging a game, switch that to aesthetics and I agree.

Did you watch that episode of Extra Credits too? I (incorrectly) use graphics and aesthetics interchangeably sometimes.

Idd I did, why I got a new habit of correcting ppl that misuse the two words.

Had a feeling. Yep.

As an amateur reviewer, an amateur musician, and an amateur writer, I find that saying Game X is better than Game Y based on some features like "Dragons", "Combat", and "Ability To Kick An Orc In The Face" (last one came out of my twisted mind) isn't a good way to go. I have much less respect for IGN after reading this based on how the article was focusing on aspects of game design that aren't big enough. Sure, Dark Souls has dragons. So does Nethack, The Hobbit, Skyrim, Norse Mythology, Greek Mythology, and WoW. The fact that they rated the dragons rather than focusing on the primary aspects of game design, which I consider to be what I pointed out above, comes across as just... Bad coverage. Also, while Dark Souls and Skyrim are both fantasy games, they each have enough differences to make comparing them seem stupid. It's like comparing Star Wars and Halo. They're in the same genre (sci-fi), but they have so many differences in style and presentation and even experience that they're not seen as comparable by the standards of journalists (as far as I can tell)

 

[RuralGamer]

Who paid us more advertising money
Winner:
From Software, I mean Namco Bandai

What they should have called the article "Top Five Reasons Dark Souls May Try to Eat Skyrim's Face"; I have no doubt that Dark Souls will come out, be fun, have fans and make From Software "ahem" Namco Bandai lots of money, but my suspicions are that Skyrim will still beat it; its an Elder Scrolls game, the only series of RPGs I've seen entice hardcore Halo and CoD fanboys away from the FPS genre.
Oh and comparing a WRPG to an ERPG (Eastern RPG(?); because you can't exactly say its a JRPG, what else is it?) is like comparing peanut butter to strawberry jam; both have their lovers and their haters; some like both, some like neither and some only like one; point is, they aren't the same and both games have elements one over the other.

Ultimately though, I'll be playing Skyrim in December (because it sure isn't a good idea to do so before my exams) and not Dark Souls; I have limited income and my decisions will be base on where I know I can get a good, enjoyable game.

 

[TheAceTheOne]

You can't spell ignorant without IGN.
Damn, ninjas!
This article sounds a bit too much like someone got payed to write it in favor of Dark Souls. Jeez, they could have at least made it less obvious. Corrupt idiots.

Didn't Dark Souls win on every category? I think it did...

Definitely fixed. They paid attention to everything but the tried and true aspects of game design... You know, stuff like graphics, story, sound design, immersion and gameplay.

Minecraft

What about minecraft?

I love it as a game, but it's more like a creative tool really. Gameplay and sound design are good in it. I think of it as a postmodern game art form thing.

Aaaalso, Captcha:

HOW THE HELL DO I DO THAT EQUATION ON A CAPTCHA?!

 

[Andy Szidon]

The problem is that, for example, losing a lot does not necessarily to a whole new phsychological insight. The author is very confusing.

 

[Andy Szidon]

You can't spell ignorant without IGN.
Damn, ninjas!
This article sounds a bit too much like someone got payed to write it in favor of Dark Souls. Jeez, they could have at least made it less obvious. Corrupt idiots.

Didn't Dark Souls win on every category? I think it did...

Definitely fixed. They paid attention to everything but the tried and true aspects of game design... You know, stuff like graphics, story, sound design, immersion and gameplay.

Minecraft

What about minecraft?

I love it as a game, but it's more like a creative tool really. Gameplay and sound design are good in it. I think of it as a postmodern game art form thing.

The thing is that Minecraft would rank low in the "categories" but high if you're more flexible and look at it differently.

 

[TheAceTheOne]

You can't spell ignorant without IGN.
Damn, ninjas!
This article sounds a bit too much like someone got payed to write it in favor of Dark Souls. Jeez, they could have at least made it less obvious. Corrupt idiots.

Didn't Dark Souls win on every category? I think it did...

Definitely fixed. They paid attention to everything but the tried and true aspects of game design... You know, stuff like graphics, story, sound design, immersion and gameplay.

Minecraft

What about minecraft?

I love it as a game, but it's more like a creative tool really. Gameplay and sound design are good in it. I think of it as a postmodern game art form thing.

The thing is that Minecraft would rank low in the "categories" but high if you're more flexible and look at it differently.

Arguably, yes. However, the fact remains that IGN's article was about Skyrim and Dark Souls and the categories they compared the two with are stupid and shallow. "Dragons" shouldn't be a category when comparing games like that. It's like saying Twilight's automatically better than Dracula because the vampires are sparklier. It's a matter of opinion, and the fact that Dark Souls won on every level in addition to the stupid categories make me upset with IGN, as I feel like if they compared gameplay, story, sound design, immersion, and the other stuff I mentioned, Skyrim would have won out.