I'm confused why do people hate Ronald Reagan?

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New York Patrick

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EClaris said:
Because after the Bush's Republicans aren't cool anymore so people hate him.

And honestly, Reagan is not to blame for the economic shit storm thats going on right now.
No, not at all. If anything, we should be thanking him for slowing it all down quite a bit.
 

TheTim

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REAGAN IS GOD!

In this time of crisis, government is not the solution to the problem, it is the problem
-Reagan


Pay attention to that Liberals
 

Valiance

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It's simple, really: They're just jealous they can't have a successful career as an actor like Reagan did.
 

Drodgyn

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TheTim said:
REAGAN IS GOD!

In this time of crisis, government is not the solution to the problem, it is the problem
-Reagan


Pay attention to that Liberals
That wasn't the case until he got through with it. One of those Republican self-fulfilling prophecies.
 

Souplex

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Because he created the economic policies that are destroying Freedomland.
 

seryoga

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when have we ever had a good or bad president, from my lessons in history the president just talks, he has very little real power the power is in the hands of congress, which is a good thing that way we can elect a charismatic dumass(obama, reagan, bush, any other president of the past 100 years) and still keep the status quo
 

nomadic_chad

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Read. There are resources everywhere and I suggest reading as many as you can, including those with differing points of view.

Any attempt to get a straight and honest answer here will likely be met with animosity by those who believe Reagan was a god among men, or derision by those who want to place all blame for all problems at his feet (or anywhere along that spectrum).

I would look up things like:

Iran-Contra
War on Drugs
Nuclear Proliferation
Afghanistan-Soviet Union
National Debt and/or Military Spending - Reagan Years

Some good places to start, and be sure to read differing opinions, then form your own.
 

CouchCommando

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Personally not been an American, I shouldn't really comment, But backing saddam to invade and in the process destroy the most western influenced city in Iran, after the Shah was toppled from power by the theocracy, the bungled rescue attempt of American hostages and subsequent parts for oil debacle with Iran, Along with his hypocritic remarks about America not dealing with terrorists whilst actually doing so, although in light of Bush I would not say he was a bad president but mediocre at best.
But like I say ,what would I know not having lived in the states during his administration.
Just an outsiders perspective.
Reagans economic model wasn't so bad it did cut a lot of red tape and did a lot to create job growth, its just unfortunate that people started to regard it as a kind of gospel and didn't actually pause to examine other models and causes and effects of policy, deregulation = good,
no regulation = bad!
 

internetzealot1

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Ronald Reagan = Republican

Internet = Liberals

You're just hanging out with the wrong crowd.

EDIT: Hundreds of points to argue on this thread, but I'll just mention that he nothing to do with the economy today and Afghanistan is an unfortunate externality, not something anyone could predict.
 

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I can understand if you dislike the man, but from what I learned about him he did a pretty good job as president. I will admite mabey it was just propagada they were teaching at school, but I don't really see anything he did bad. His fixed the ecomey in the 80's "During Jimmy Carter's last year in office (1980), inflation averaged 12.5%, compared to 4.4% during Reagan's last year in office (1988).Over those eight years, the unemployment rate declined from 7.5% to 5.3%, hitting highs of 9.7% (1982) and 9.6% (1983) and averaging 7.5% during Reagan's administration."
Persued personaly freedom for the people and try to make us less rreliant on the goverment. Quiltys I both like, nowif people can give a vaild reason for why he did a bad job then I will reconsider my take on him.
Al Quaeda
not mentioning AIDS until 7 years after it began
economy got fucked up after he left(used similar policies used before the Great Depression)
Drug policies didn't really change drug use but resulted in prison overcrowding
Nuclear Proliferation
Afganistan after Soviets stopped trying
lead to current ecomic policies
iran contra
lack of an energy policy
supporting dictators
...and he was still far superior to current republicans
 

Hollock

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we discussed Reagan for like a week in school last year, it was tough for my teacher because he hated his fucking guts and isn't allowed to speak his opinion outside of "I didn't like him"

He's the father of modern republicanism, end-o story.
 

jubosu

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Liberals want someone to blame other than themselves.
So they call Reagan crazy.
Even though several of their own party as well as others caused what is occurring right now
 

geldonyetich

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The overall scope of the Regan years were ones in which we comforted ourselves by spending ourselves under the table. As such, Regan is perceived by shallow-minded individuals as one heck of a sugar daddy who made his voters very comfortable.

However, it became clear to anyone who was really paying attention that it was all just smoke and mirrors, things were readily descending into shambles as the rich got richer. This shouldn't surprise you when the president's background was being an actor.

Love of Regan is a reason why America is slowly disowning its capability to be a democracy. When people vote with their hearts and not their minds, the result is an easy con of an entire country.

Modern Republicans try to follow in Reagan's footsteps as much as possible. Not only does it make their rich friends richer, but they know how this confidence trick works, and they've ensnared a good amount of America in it. Unfortunately for them, we simply can't afford it as well as we could in Regan's time, and that's why it's failed lately. Party time is over, and it's grimly clear that we'll be paying the piper for decades.

There's a split in the Republican party these days as they warm up to that idea. Gives me a bit of hope that America may finally be taking responsibility. It's been a few decades though - really, most of Regan's tricks can be seen employed by Nixon as well - change isn't easy.
 

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He had absolutely nothing to do with the economy righting itself, and in fact his economic policies were about giving money to the rich and hoping/praying it would trickle down into all people's pockets. It didn't work for Coolidge/Hoover, and it didn't work this time. The gap between rich and poor became wider than it had ever been in the history of humanity under his leadership.
He practiced brinkmanship with the USSR, which, if good old Gorby had half the balls/craziness of his predecessors, would have ended the world within a couple fucking weeks.
He was the person who lead the Republicans away from being anti-government and becoming the bible-thumping die-hard morons. He's the one who started the whole 'faith and family values' being an integral part of the presidential running policies. Basically, he's pretty much to blame for the Tea Parties and Sarah Palin in current events.
I wish he died of Alzheimer's while still in his fucking presidency. The world would be so much better without the shit he pulled.
 

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Mcupobob said:
I can understand if you dislike the man, but from what I learned about him he did a pretty good job as president. I will admite mabey it was just propagada they were teaching at school, but I don't really see anything he did bad. His fixed the ecomey in the 80's "During Jimmy Carter's last year in office (1980), inflation averaged 12.5%, compared to 4.4% during Reagan's last year in office (1988).Over those eight years, the unemployment rate declined from 7.5% to 5.3%, hitting highs of 9.7% (1982) and 9.6% (1983) and averaging 7.5% during Reagan's administration."
Persued personaly freedom for the people and try to make us less rreliant on the goverment. Quiltys I both like, nowif people can give a vaild reason for why he did a bad job then I will reconsider my take on him.
Are you asking for opinions from people who lived through the Reagan era or those who are only just now learning about it? Not to make a comparison but people look back these days with admiration at what Genghis Kahn did. I?m too young to comment, (I was only 15 when Reagan was bombing Libya. I remember people calling him 'Ray-Gun' and the years when he seemed to lose his mind or fall asleep a lot), but there must have been a reason someone tried to assassinate him right?
 

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TailsRodrigez said:
Mcupobob said:
I can understand if you dislike the man, but from what I learned about him he did a pretty good job as president. I will admite mabey it was just propagada they were teaching at school, but I don't really see anything he did bad. His fixed the ecomey in the 80's "During Jimmy Carter's last year in office (1980), inflation averaged 12.5%, compared to 4.4% during Reagan's last year in office (1988).Over those eight years, the unemployment rate declined from 7.5% to 5.3%, hitting highs of 9.7% (1982) and 9.6% (1983) and averaging 7.5% during Reagan's administration."
Persued personaly freedom for the people and try to make us less rreliant on the goverment. Quiltys I both like, nowif people can give a vaild reason for why he did a bad job then I will reconsider my take on him.
Al Quaeda
not mentioning AIDS until 7 years after it began
economy got fucked up after he left(used similar policies used before the Great Depression)
Drug policies didn't really change drug use but resulted in prison overcrowding
Nuclear Proliferation
Afganistan after Soviets stopped trying
lead to current ecomic policies
iran contra
lack of an energy policy
supporting dictators
...and he was still far superior to current republicans
Hmmmmmmm, I do not know what I can add to this. Good show Rodrigez!
 

joshthor

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"people" hate reagan because the internet, and particularly this site, is filled with democrats.