I'm confused...

[Lord Krunk]

I really love this site but I think the excessive moderating just ruins everything.

Ah, it seems that someone hasn't heard of the legendary Joe.

Quite the contrary, actually. The heavy moderation is what keep this forum readable (and, thus, better than the others), and I have to give the Mods my kudos for that. However, they are getting really lenient as of late, and I don't like it one bit.

However, 14 day bans for March Mayhem? Wow, I think the glory of Escapist 2008 (PreAugust-ish) is returning. Huzzah!

 

[Maze1125]

It's my opinion that they were well within their rights to suspend you for resurrecting an obvious troll thread that was almost 8 months old with this "everyone has an opinion" non-statement.

But that's the thing, he had no idea he was resurrecting a thread, he found it on the front page and so, working that that assumption, he comment was perfectly appropriate.

 

[Fire Daemon]

Warcry is a very different forum to the Escapist, you should be on your toes whenever you visit a new forum, pay attention to whats going on before you post if you don't want to run the risk of pissing someone off. If the OP noticed the time none of this would have happened.

I suppose it wasn't his fault, he wasn't too know and that thread should have been locked anyway. Still, tough luck.

It would have been nice if our local Draconian [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draconian_(Doctor_Who)] didn't lock this thread though, I wrote out a post and it was locked just before I hit the post button, lost to oblivion. I hate it when that happens, but the mods here are pretty good.

 

[Knight Templar]

I really love this site but I think the excessive moderating just ruins everything.

Ah, it seems that someone hasn't heard of the legendary Joe.

Quite the contrary, actually. The heavy moderation is what keep this forum readable (and, thus, better than the others), and I have to give the Mods my kudos for that. However, they are getting really lenient as of late, and I don't like it one bit.

However, 14 day bans for March Mayhem? Wow, I think the glory of Escapist 2008 (PreAugust-ish) is returning. Huzzah!

Well its not consistent so don't bring out the party hats. I know that getting around to people causing trouble can take time and people under-use the report button and there are quite a few other factors, but it just annoys me when rules are not "fair" and consistent. For the most part here at the escapist, they are fair and consistent so I don't have much to complain about in general.

Anywho these threads are happening a lot lately, or is it just me?

 

[Lord Krunk]

I really love this site but I think the excessive moderating just ruins everything.

Ah, it seems that someone hasn't heard of the legendary Joe.

Quite the contrary, actually. The heavy moderation is what keep this forum readable (and, thus, better than the others), and I have to give the Mods my kudos for that. However, they are getting really lenient as of late, and I don't like it one bit.

However, 14 day bans for March Mayhem? Wow, I think the glory of Escapist 2008 (PreAugust-ish) is returning. Huzzah!

Well its not consistent so don't bring out the party hats. I know that getting around to people causing trouble can take time and people under-use the report button and there are quite a few other factors, but it just annoys me when rules are not "fair" and consistent. For the most part here at the escapist, they are fair and consistent so I don't have much to complain about in general.

Anywho these threads are happening a lot lately, or is it just me?

I think the original intention of March Mayhem has resulted in a massive influx of new users, that just don't seem to grasp the concept that not all forums are the same. That's why this thread has appeared so much; wouldn't it be a whole lot easier to read the guidelines?

The thing that makes this place great is not Yahtzee (who has his own forum), but the community, the excellent moderation and excellent contributions provided by the staff (My favourite being the Review Wars - when's that going to be on next, by the way?). Without them, this place would be nothing.

 

[timmytom1]

What would you prefer?

Idiotic posts everywhere or the odd probation for something silly?

The odd post? i saw 4 people suspended or banned for daring to state their numerical positioning on the same thread (to be fair some of them said nothing else whilst some contributed a bit)

 

[Iron Mal]

On the one hand, reviving an older thread can allow the continuation of an interesting discussion that may have gone onto other interesting (yet relevent) topics but this does often exclude others from joining the discussion (since they often have to read through six pages of back and forth discussion just to ensure that their opinion is going to be up to date) which in turn defeats the point of us having a forum.

On the other, creating a new thread for a previously discussed topic allows for more people to engage in debates about certain subjects without having to conduct lengthy research into what two people have written between each other (and most topics do have their moments of just being lengthy discussions between two people, and no more than two people) but I also understand that there is a risk of some subjects being overdone.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

The Escapist & Warcrys moderation issues are famous all over the net, so really you should know what you are letting yourself in for when you sign up here. It is purely the luck of the draw if you are banned/suspended or if your thread is locked etc. While there are some great moderators here, one or two of them have a temper and very much fly by the seat of their pants.

Best thing to do is not actually take any such moderation personally. Just chalk it down to poor moderation and let it go.

It's just that it's not the first time that this has happened to me, I was once put on probation for 3 days for saying the RE5 Zero Punctuation review was "great".
And I'm just pissed off with all the mixed signals I keep getting about what I'm supposed to and what I'm not supposed to do.

I really love this site but I think the excessive moderating just ruins everything.

One question; did you post that before it was physically possible to actually have watched the video? Because the mods are always ready to get the First!ers in ZP. If not, direct me to the post and I can tel you what the problem is.

Dude, I'm not an idiot, I know what happens to the guys who post before watching.
I had posted right after I had seen the whole thing.

 

[Avatar Roku]

The Escapist & Warcrys moderation issues are famous all over the net, so really you should know what you are letting yourself in for when you sign up here. It is purely the luck of the draw if you are banned/suspended or if your thread is locked etc. While there are some great moderators here, one or two of them have a temper and very much fly by the seat of their pants.

Best thing to do is not actually take any such moderation personally. Just chalk it down to poor moderation and let it go.

It's just that it's not the first time that this has happened to me, I was once put on probation for 3 days for saying the RE5 Zero Punctuation review was "great".
And I'm just pissed off with all the mixed signals I keep getting about what I'm supposed to and what I'm not supposed to do.

I really love this site but I think the excessive moderating just ruins everything.

One question; did you post that before it was physically possible to actually have watched the video? Because the mods are always ready to get the First!ers in ZP. If not, direct me to the post and I can tel you what the problem is.

Dude, I'm not an idiot, I know what happens to the guys who post before watching.
I had posted right after I had seen the whole thing.

Just wanted to be sure. If you want to send me a link I'll take a look and see why it happened.

EDIT:Never mind, I found it. I thought that you said something other than "great"; the reason you were banned was that you didn't contribute anything to the discussion. Worth remembering that the mods are always hyper attentive on the ZP threads, what will work other places on this site may not work there.

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

There's been a lot of talk lately about repeat threads and how it is preferable to necro a thread instead of creating a new one, however just a couple of minutes ago I received a notice informing me of my 7 day suspension from the Warcry forums because I had accidentaly revived a long dead thread (not that I would of known seeing how it was on the first page).

Now, I dont really care for the suspension because I dont frequently visit WarCry and I actually prefer the Escapist but how can two sister forums have such different policies regarding threads?
Can someone explain this to me?

P.S. I also find a 7 day suspension a bit eccessive seeing how I dont have a troublemakers past.

The mods at Warcry are not the same mods as the Escapist. You may discuss their moderation policy with a member of their moderation team if you want to continue this discussion. Complaining about moderation publicly isn't the way to get things done on any site that I know of.

If you have an issue with the length or reason of your suspension consider sending the staff a PM or email with your concerns. Keep the tone of your message friendly and remain willing to listen to their opinion. Many people do, and have been acted reasonably enough that they have had their bans/suspensions lifted.

As for your case; since we decided to discuss this openly with the community I feel everyone should see the entire picture before they jump on the anti-moderation/warcry bandwagon.
http://aoc.warcry.com/forums/read/160.61118#1654871

It's my opinion that they were well within their rights to suspend you for resurrecting an obvious troll thread that was almost 8 months old with this "everyone has an opinion" non-statement.

This doesn't come across as a case of a moderator trying to confuse you with draconian rules, this is common sense. Don't spam threads with anti-site messages, and if they ban you use the proper channels rather than making this an Escapistmagazine.com issue.

One things for sure, I aint visiting WarCry again any time soon.

 

[cuddly_tomato]

Depends on the moderators in question. I am a mod myself at another site, and occassionally we do have to remove a mod because they make such a mess of it that it makes the rest of us look like assholes.

In the case of the Escapist, the actual moderators are great. The problem they have is they have given moderation privaledges to all of the staff members, and while most of those treat those powers with the respect they need, one or two think of it as a silver-tipped cane with which to lock/silence things they don't agree with and punish people they don't like.

And that's their problem. Not ours. We don't police their mods, they police their mods.

I was using the Somethin* - my forums as an example of how TYRANNICAL or INSANE moderators can be. Because this place is NOTHING like that forum. One slightly abusive moderator is a blessing compared to how many other forums that virtually crush the souls of the participants.

* I can't bring myself to say the full name, because 1) You probably already know what I'm hinting at, and 2) we don't need a flood of those people over here.

Ohh I know. This is their pad, and entirely up to them how they run it. I was not (and am not) complaining about anything, I have also never been moderated, banned, probated or otherwise had a run-in with any mods here and so have no axe to grind.

Justing saying - I would do it differently. As far as I am concerned the position of community moderator is extremely important. Such people are ambassadors between the company that the forum represents and the people that use the product. Here moderation seems to be more just a 'perk' of working for The Escapist as opposed to something that is thoughtfully considered. The effect of this is an extremely erratically moderated forum. There is no real consistency in the moderating decisions I can see.

I would personally either hire a community leader to do all of the tasks involving forum rules, moderation and community feedback, or I would get more volunteers to do the moderating. But that's a personal view, not a complaint.