I'm getting back into Warhammer 40k

[The Maddest March Hare]

Well that explains the classics I spose, any idea on the lack of sprues or was that one not as announced?

Well I suspect they just don't want to sell individual pieces of a kit when they know the average workshopper will buy a whole kit just for that one specific arm pose... yes I've done this.

I used to work for them until they found out I didn't know how to play the games very well... They didn't follow their own rules when they hired me they just liked me hehe.

Hehe don't worry, I've been collecting the models for about 6 years, only played like 3 battles. I like to have a few of each just for the sake of conversion and display XD

It's why I was so bummed out to come back and find I'd either need to pay a truck load more for the pieces or make do with less parts =|

 

[juraigamer]

Yes but the Space Marines have so many more units

How funny that you are complaining that one of the newest races to 40k has only a few units, while the space marines basically have the same guys in the same power armor, but with more addons. Is it because the Tau don't have a drop pod? Or because the Tau don't have melee? (not really... kroot/vespid are melee oriented, but you know what I mean)

 

[The Kangaroo]

Imperial Guard! cause painting aand assembling 400 guys is easy!

Ye but I'm the kind of guy who if I don't personalise a model I will look at it with disgust forever

 

[The Kangaroo]

Tried them not enough units to keep me interested

The Imperial Guard have a rather large selection of units, plus all the different designs of each Guard regiment available, so I'd say the Guard.

They also don't take a lot of effort to assemble, you get a large army in a small amount of time and you can get away with a two-colour colour scheme, possibly a 1 colour scheme if you're very boring.

Tried them but i like every model to be unique and i hate painting but I love converting and the sheer effort of converting 400 units then painting them all is mind numbing

 

[ZeeClone]

Space Marines have really anal levels of detail, but badab black and devlan mud make any model awesome.

You can also knock up half way decent models of space marines with a day or so's effort.

EDIT grammar fail. Corrected.

 

[The Kangaroo]

Space Marines have really anal levels of detail, but badab black and devlan mud make any model awesome.

You can also knock up half way decent models of space marines with a day or so's effort.

EDIT grammar fail. Corrected.

Yes I know but they'll feel unfinished

 

[Rajin Cajun]

Ok I simply dislike tau for their strategy since they get boned very fast and very well by any fast moving assault units, I'll take my orks with the turbo-boost rule (and extra mayo) please.

Exactly, Tau eat Chain-Axe when facing my World Eaters Warband. As to an easy to assemble army I would say Space Marines or Chaos Space Marines both good standard stock armies.

 

[EscapeGoat_v1legacy]

Tried them but i like every model to be unique and i hate painting but I love converting and the sheer effort of converting 400 units then painting them all is mind numbing

OK, that's fair enough, I can understand where you're coming from since I like to do the same, albeit only with officers and the like.

So, what you want is a small, but elite army, one with loads of troops available, but only has to field a small number of them for a battle to allow for conversions?

If so, I'd say either go for an Eldar battleforce, since that offers a great range of troops, or perhaps a Chaos warband, since Chaos or Space Marines are all *adopts mighty booming voice* great heroes/villains, each with a thousand battles to their name and a hero in the eyes of their subordinates and that lends itself really well to personalising models. Oh, and I say Chaos over Marines because Chaos can be anything if they have any contact with daemons, thus offering a wider scope for converting, whereas Space Marines have more of a stock look.

Also, Chaos can include Daemons, Traitor Guard, Mutants and Chaos Marines, so you can't tell me that's not a wide range of models to choose from

 

[The Kangaroo]

Tried them but i like every model to be unique and i hate painting but I love converting and the sheer effort of converting 400 units then painting them all is mind numbing

OK, that's fair enough, I can understand where you're coming from since I like to do the same, albeit only with officers and the like.

So, what you want is a small, but elite army, one with loads of troops available, but only has to field a small number of them for a battle to allow for conversions?

If so, I'd say either go for an Eldar battleforce, since that offers a great range of troops, or perhaps a Chaos warband, since Chaos or Space Marines are all *adopts mighty booming voice* great heroes/villains, each with a thousand battles to their name and a hero in the eyes of their subordinates and that lends itself really well to personalising models. Oh, and I say Chaos over Marines because Chaos can be anything if they have any contact with daemons, thus offering a wider scope for converting, whereas Space Marines have more of a stock look.

Also, Chaos can include Daemons, Traitor Guard, Mutants and Chaos Marines, so you can't tell me that's not a wide range of models to choose from

I might try that because my favourite conversion ever, where I took http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1300216&prodId=prod1040596 and put on http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1300216&prodId=prod1040596 's weapon and wrist except it was an older model so the gun was in the other hand, it turned out fantastic

 

[Ursus Astrorum]

Let's see, recently we've had Orks, Eldar, Space Marines, and Imperial Guard with revamps. Oh, and the rulebook's 5th edition. That's all I can think of.

Space marines have an awesome army set out now if you're made of money, though...

*eyes the Spear of Sicarius with longing*

 

[Combined]

Try Imperial Guard. Small and easy, with lots of choices and lots of units, as well as lots of variations. Can be supported by all other Imperial forces, like space marines, daemon hunters and witch hunters.

 

[ZeeClone]

Space Marines have really anal levels of detail, but badab black and devlan mud make any model awesome.

You can also knock up half way decent models of space marines with a day or so's effort.

EDIT grammar fail. Corrected.

Yes I know but they'll feel unfinished

Tell me about it. I've been working on a 500 point army for the last 4 months. I've only just finished the first trooper.

 

[Ultrajoe]

Look, if you like almost infinite options in unit variation and painting possibility, you really can't go past the Tyranids.

And besides, they just kick everyone's asses.

 

[dontworryaboutit]

I feel bad that people are ripping on Space Marines. They have a lot of depth if you actually read into it...yeah their units can be a little bland sometimes but I think they have good stories behind them. Also Ultramarine hate makes me sad...they have some badass aspects.

Personally, I was a Black Legionnaire player first and a Cadian player second.

And as for new codex (I'm not attempting the plural), those things come out every few months.

 

[Wadders]

Heh, wave goodbye to your disposable income bro'

Go for Guard, they're just so bad ass and you cn have great variety if you dont just go for Cadians or Catachans. Spice it up abit and invent your own regiment.

Failing that, if you feel unwilling to make/ paint 100's of little d00ds, go for Tau, for no other reason than they are Space samurai with laser guns and battle suits who (attempt to) convert alien species to do their dodgy deeds

EDIT: Hmm I neglected to read all the previous posts, cos I'm fucked after work, but now I have I'd say Chaos Space marines are the best choice for ya's. Good variets of units, and plenty of room for customizing/ converting your models.

Damn this thread almost, almost makes me want to go back to 40k...

 

[Combined]

And besides, they just kick everyone's asses.

Well, that's debatable, as we know that every army can beat every other army. It all depends on the skill of the commander.

The problem with playing 'nids is that if you pretty much go off and drive everyone into the ground constantly, it'll probably get boring and...and...oh, who am I kidding. It never gets boring.

If you want a Xeno army, go get the tyranids. They can win anything.

 

[Spacelord]

I'd say Necrons. They're so piss-easy to paint and assemble that you could have a 1000pt force painted if you took a single free day (mind you, you'd have to be painting from dawn till dusk, but you get the idea). Be sure to add a lot of heavy weapons though (Heavy Destroyers, Monolith(s?)), since them gauss rules got F'd in the A with the latest rule change. TLDR: VERY easy to paint.

As for playability: as I said, they're not as effective (or imba, as some might argue) as they were before 4th edition, but having a metallic, continuously regenerating wall of death closing in on another dude's army, backed up by what basically amounts to flying glass cannons is pretty much a hell of a time, even if you don't win all matches.

 

[The Kangaroo]

Damn this thread almost, almost makes me want to go back to 40k...

We'll just have to make it more awesome then

 

[The Kangaroo]

I'd say Necrons. They're so piss-easy to paint and assemble that you could have a 1000pt force painted if you took a single free day (mind you, you'd have to be painting from dawn till dusk, but you get the idea). Be sure to add a lot of heavy weapons though (Heavy Destroyers, Monolith(s?)), since them gauss rules got F'd in the A with the latest rule change. TLDR: VERY easy to paint.

As for playability: as I said, they're not as effective (or imba, as some might argue) as they were before 4th edition, but having a metallic, continuously regenerating wall of death closing in on another dude's army, backed up by what basically amounts to flying glass cannons is pretty much a hell of a time, even if you don't win all matches.

Yeah not much room for modelling though

 

[Spacelord]

Yeah not much room for modelling though

I'm sorry, I based my post on your OP, where you said you were mostly interested in actual playability as well as easy painting. I neglected to notice anything regarding additional demands later on in this thread.

If you also want to have a bit of fun with customising your dudes, I'd say space marines. They're still easy to paint, they can be quite unique if you customise your regiment with those oath things in the SM codex, and you can convert them accordingly at your leisure!