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TheDrunkNinja

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RagTagBand said:
Not entirely sure how you "Dodged a bullet" here, tbh kinda sounds like she dodged a bullet.

Her problem with you is that she doesn't find you physically attractive due to your weight. As I have stated in the "would you date an unattractive person" thread, and people tended to agree, Finding someone attractive is a pretty important factor in a romantic relationship...It's almost the only demonstrable difference between it and a platonic relationship.

This is a reasonable reason for not wanting to be with you romantically. Her problem is a genuine roadblock. Your problem seems to boil down to "She'll probably ask me to take better care of my body and I'd rather not, so she should just lower her standards", This, to me, doesn't sound like a genuine problem, it sounds like laziness.

tl;dr - Her problem - I dont find you attractive
Your Problem - You dont find me attractive but i'd rather not do anything about it.

It's your loss, IMO, not hers.
There's two problems with your diagnosis, Dr. Phil.

1: I never mentioned I had some sort of fear of losing weight because I don't have one. Hell, at the time I was considering dating her, I rescheduled myself so I would have more time to work out at my YMCA. Not because I knew she had some animosity towards me for being fat, but so that I could, as you said, take better care of myself for her. You don't get that I really thought, if we started a relationship, it would be something that lasts.

2: She's overweight, too.

Yeah, great tragic love story: "The only thing keeping these starry-eyed lovers apart from their passion for each other is because of the guy's excess body weight!"

No, sorry, I lucked out of something that wouldn't last. And we're both better off friends anyway.
 

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Rin Little said:
If she doesn't accept him how he is now then why would she accept him if he did decide to get slimmer or whatever? It's shallow to expect someone to change something as mundane as appearance in order for you to be attracted to them when you've known them for a long time and like you're personality. And you're pretty much implying that being overweight, no matter how mild or severe, automatically bars someone from being attractive.
It's not about 'acceptance', i have no idea where you get that from. It's about sexual attraction. Finding a person physically attractive. If she didn't 'accept him', they wouldn't be close friends. Not being in a relationship does not stop two people from being best friends.

You need to understand the difference between emotional attraction and physical attraction. From what i understand, she is attracted to him emotionally, just not attracted to him physically. I personally wouldn't want to have sex with someone i wasn't physically attracted to, even if i cared for them a lot otherwise. I'd rather just be good friends. Are you saying you can't be really close friends with the opposite sex without the notion that you're either A) going to be entering a relationship or B) have sex with them?

I'm not implying anything. I'm saying that weight is something the OP could sort out if he put in the effort and wanted to win her over. I don't care what weight people are. I'm not trying to make a generalised comment about people of any particular weight. Lastly, i'd like to know why you think what i find to be attractive means that's what everyone must also find attractive. I could find tiny feet to be super sexy, but that doesn't mean i'm "implying not having tiny feet bars someone from being attractive".
 

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I want to know how the hell you "tricked" her when she's the one being a shallow *****
Yeah, how dare people not be physically attracted to fatties!!

Anyways, in a later post he does say she's overweight as well so perhaps she should have a bit more realistic expectations on that front. But accusing people of being shallow is tossed around too easily, physical traits aren't irreverent. If you love someones mind and not their body, there's no reason they can't be just a friend. If you want someone as more than just a friend, why would you not want a body you're attracted to?
 

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TheDrunkNinja said:
This story is just what I needed to read today. Thanks, I mean that.

I haven't really ever dodged a romantic bullet like this though. The closest I ever came was when I found out my old girlfriend stole her best friends boyfriend (already this is sounding like a soap opera) proving what a cold heared manipulator she was to both me and all my friends that took her side after the break up. That wasn't really a time to breathe a sigh of relief, more a time to say 'I told you so' while I watched all my friends queue up for their portion of humble pie.
 

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RagTagBand said:
Not entirely sure how you "Dodged a bullet" here, tbh kinda sounds like she dodged a bullet.

Her problem with you is that she doesn't find you physically attractive due to your weight. As I have stated in the "would you date an unattractive person" thread, and people tended to agree, Finding someone attractive is a pretty important factor in a romantic relationship...It's almost the only demonstrable difference between it and a platonic relationship.

This is a reasonable reason for not wanting to be with you romantically. Her problem is a genuine roadblock. Your problem seems to boil down to "She'll probably ask me to take better care of my body and I'd rather not, so she should just lower her standards", This, to me, doesn't sound like a genuine problem, it sounds like laziness.

tl;dr - Her problem - I dont find you attractive
Your Problem - You dont find me attractive but i'd rather not do anything about it.

It's your loss, IMO, not hers.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Being overweight can be fixed even though it's hard. Being together with someone who is superficial is really only a problem when it goes to far or you feel you don't meet the standards you should.
 

Moonlight Butterfly

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People in this thread are right in that she has a right to say shes not attracted to someone.

However it can be frustrating when you get along with someone so well to the point of being like finishing each others sentences and loving every minute with each other etc and then they say they don't want to be with you becuase of the way you look. Which is pretty much the impression I got from the OP.

To me it's kind of stupid because NO ONE is going to be beautiful forever. If that's how they pick what might be their life partner, purely on looks, then they can't really complain if they are miserable when their gorgeous hubby gets old and grey and saggy...and still has nothing in common with them.
 

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Nice story, TDN. I dodged a bullet myself. Was engaged to a chick and broke it off. When she ended up marrying this other guy, due to them about to become parents, they had a huge fight at their wedding reception. From my understanding, it was so bad people left. A few months later, she committed herself to a psychiatric hospital. So, that was what was waiting for me after the "I do". Glad I missed that train ride.
 

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TheDrunkNinja said:
Right now, I was told by her best friend that she's still embarrassed and kind of angry about what happened, saying she feels like I "tricked" her, even though I have no clue how.
Under no circumstances whatsoever is any man allowed to one-up any woman in a conversation, argument, or social situation. Stated another way: if she is unhappy, she will decide it is your fault. Don't go looking for a reason. There isn't one. It's just they way women are wired.

Good story. I wish I had one like it.
 

cthulhumythos

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good on you sir. this is the first 'love' thread that i've laughed with instead of laughed at the OP.
 

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TheYellowCellPhone said:
inb4 discussion value

Well played response, sir, this is a fresh breath of air from the bombardment of Forever Alones.
This, triple this. If you guys are gonna hit up the Escapist for relationship advice, something is deeply wrong with you

OT Great job!
 

Mumrik

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Good to know. You should probably lose the weight anyway though... just saying.
 

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Johnny Impact said:
TheDrunkNinja said:
Right now, I was told by her best friend that she's still embarrassed and kind of angry about what happened, saying she feels like I "tricked" her, even though I have no clue how.
Under no circumstances whatsoever is any man allowed to one-up any woman in a conversation, argument, or social situation.

Stated another way: if she is unhappy, she will decide it is your fault. Don't go looking for a reason. There isn't one. It's just they way women are wired.

Good story. I wish I had one like it.
I will turn this into a plaque and hang it up on a wall. That is literary gold right there.


OT: I don't really know how to interpret your story, as the current discussion is is it your loss or hers?

Personally, I think you both dodged a bullet. Obviously those two hang-ups were big enough to keep you two apart, and once outspoken were not going to go away easily. I've been with my bf for quite some time now, and I know his major "hang-up" about me is my lack of self confidence. This in turn causes me to go emo and angsty whenever I think about it, further detering my self confidence. What does this have to do with you two? Women don't like being pointed out their flaws (as it's already been stated) and depending on her personality/personal demons your comment might've really hit her hard.

Her hang-up was something "minor" that could "easily" be changed should you choose to.
Your hang-up was something ingrained in her personality, a part of her very being.

ergo: your hang-up >>>>>>>>> her hang-up. Basically, you had a real issue while she had something she thought you might be able to change, it might be why she brought it up. She might've really thought you two had a shot, and then come to find out your problem was something she'd really really have to work on, to the point of being impossible.

As for the trick. Not only were you "happy" to hear it, but it also coincided perfectly with her hang-up. It's just too good to be true, so I can see where she might think you planned it a bit.




My own personal bullet? Well, I didn't dodge it, took it right to the face. First relationship, was only going out with him because I was desperate, and he was willing. Just.... just epic fail on both of our parts. Totally incompatible, the only thing we had in common was 1 friend and a club. We had different goals, different ethics, different standards.... hell I didn't even like him physically. Still, he broke up with me, probably when I needed him most. That afternoon (it was the morning) I had already come to the conclusion that I missed "my boyfriend" more than the actual person himself. Not the dates, the whatever else that went with it, just the slot in my life that now had a question mark instead of a face.

It did do some good though, I became slightly more confident in myself and became a little more flirty. 4 short months later and I started dating my current bf <3 been together 2.5 years now.
 

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RagTagBand said:
Not entirely sure how you "Dodged a bullet" here, tbh kinda sounds like she dodged a bullet.

Her problem with you is that she doesn't find you physically attractive due to your weight. As I have stated in the "would you date an unattractive person" thread, and people tended to agree, Finding someone attractive is a pretty important factor in a romantic relationship...It's almost the only demonstrable difference between it and a platonic relationship.

This is a reasonable reason for not wanting to be with you romantically. Her problem is a genuine roadblock. Your problem seems to boil down to "She'll probably ask me to take better care of my body and I'd rather not, so she should just lower her standards", This, to me, doesn't sound like a genuine problem, it sounds like laziness.

tl;dr - Her problem - I dont find you attractive
Your Problem - You dont find me attractive but i'd rather not do anything about it.

It's your loss, IMO, not hers.
Yeah, pretty much this.

While I did find OP's story to be entertaining, I think it's quite unreasonable to say she's some sort of horrible person just because she's not attracted to overweight people.
 

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No, every time I've had to deny someone the chance at a relationship with me they've been either really sad or really pissed I didn't "tell them earlier".
Sometimes it passes, but mostly it hasn't. Thank fuck it's only happened on a few occasions.

That may be(is) a whole different topic, but it really bugs me that if I tell them right away why I won't be interested in them or am very open about it, people feel I "shove my sexuality in their face" but if I just act friendly in the way I do(I like hugs and I'm social with people I get along with) and they take an interest in me they get pissed because me not telling them I like pussy apparently encourages them and sends out the wrong message.
Fucking hell.
 

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Being male myself, I have more girlfriends than male friends. If you don't make some things clear after a while there's always that "what if" between you (I guess this goes for gays and lesbians too). Saves a lot of drama. Kudos, dear sir!
 

Blow_Pop

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I get a lot of guys pissed at me when I deny them a chance at a relationship. I'm bisexual but at the moment really not interested in men at all. Yes I flirt, it is who I am. All my friends know this in fact it is part of how I introduce myself..."hi, I'm April Marie, I tend to be a really huge flirt but don't look too far into it. I'm also kind of cuddly and affectionate til you piss me off or get on my bad side...." So to be fair they know that is the type of person I am. I am very indiscriminate about who I flirt with. male, female, gay, straight, in a relationship, not in a relationship etc....I just do it with everyone I know. I know I do it subconsciously so I throw it out there and kind of intentionally do it half the time. There is a lot of times I unintentionally do it though(like conversations about cars or gaming or books). I'm a very touch oriented person as well. I need to have so much touch or i start going insane(i think it is because I am alone so much that it bothers me when i'm out with people and don't get any. but when i say touch i mean simple stuff like leaning against someone, holding hands, brushing against my shoulder, etc....doesn't have to be cuddling or long hugs or anything....)some people see this and automatically assume that in addition to how open i am about sexuality and all that, that i am easy. They get offended when I won't date them or even sleep with them. Mind you I'm only like that with people I know and am comfortable with. Sexuality topic you can ask me anything and I'll answer honestly. But the last one who got offended....my last job. I was hanging with one of my female friends and she was in process of molesting me and one of the guys came up and made a move on me. As previously stated at the moment I'm really not into guys(long story short been burned too many times by guys and need a break)so when I told him he needed to back off and I wasn't interested he got seriously offended. I told him that was one of the many reasons I wouldn't give him a chance ever. Is how offended he got at that. I also tend to have a lot more guy friends than girl friends as well(seeing as how i find it hard to talk to most girls since we have no topic in common that we are interested in)luckily I don't run into this problem often. Though if I am out with my guy friends and a random guy starts hitting on me its amazing how overly protective they get of me.....