I'm not racist, but....

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Azex said:
I really can't stand Batarians or Vorcha. They look like crap and they probably all smell. And 4 eyes? gross man. Gross.

The thought of a Batarian having some sort of artform or literature or even music makes me hate them more.
Its not racism. Its specieism as they are not the same species as you. So congrats, yer not a racist! ;)
 

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LostAlone said:
Surely you mean 'I'm not speciesist but...' ?
Seconded. This is something I always wondered about, especially in fantasy settings. Is there racism in D&D? Is the Man keeping down fellow humans while also hating orcs because they're too green and keeping elves out of his schools? Is it okay to be speciesist because the other guy is physically different and maybe ACTUALLY incapable of happiness and love and freedom or whatever?

And for the record, I would never let my daughter date a hobgoblin. That's just not right.
Are you kidding? Of course there's racism in D&D. Elves are huge racists, described as looking down at the "younger, less races" in the Players Handbook. Dwarves are basically isolationists most of the time. Humans also like to keep to themselves and only trade with other races when it's profitable. In Lord of the Rings, its even worse. Elves consider Orcs to be vermin, humans to be dirty and uncultured and Dwarves to be hairy, repulsive ugly creatures.

Of course, that's in game. When you look at the creation of fantasy universes, they're all terribly racist. Every Ferengi in Star Trek is a greedy little back stabber, all Klingons have exactly the same concepts of religion, honor and combat, all Bajorans are spiritual, all Romulans are very intelligent, etc. Star Wars races are developed from a single line in the movie, hence Bothans are a total society based around espionage, Jawas always smell bad, Wookies are always awesome, Qualish (the alien in the Catina that attacks Luke) are all aggressive, and Mon Cals (Ackbar) are all great with capital ships.

There are two conclusions here. One: there has to be a defining trait for a species. An alien race that isn't completely united under one religion, culture, government and world view? Unthinkable.

And two: I apparently know a lot more about different fantasy universes than I thought.
 

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Batarians believe in slavery so yeah fuck them and Vorcha are closer to animals.
 

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Batarians are definitely getting the short end of the stick when it comes to civilizations and races in Mass Effect. Just about everything I read or saw of them in the game seemed to confirm that every Bataraian ever was a either a racist pirate, slaver, terrorist or just an apathetic asshole.

Strange since the other races seem to fit a lot more roles... Want a Batarian squad member in Mass Effect 3 who isn't an asshole
 

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Anybody else reminded of the enormous fights on the Oblivion forums about whether or not it's racist to hate the Beast Races in that game?

I'm also reminded of Evan Narcisse's musings on the Krogans from ME2 and his claim that he identifies with the Krogans because he's black.
 

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Azex said:
I really can't stand Batarians or Vorcha. They look like crap and they probably all smell. And 4 eyes? gross man. Gross.
What the hell you on about? Can you clarify a bit? I have no idea what we are going on about?

But, I though this topic's subject would be about something totally difference.
 

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Azex said:
to clear up the whole racist/speciest/xenophobic thing...the way the word racist is used is outdated in ME as in our current context it subdivedes humanity. in ME we know humanity is one of many galactic races so when i say racist i mean non human aliens
the word racist is outdated anyway

there is technically only one race, the Human Race
 

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Azex said:
I really can't stand Batarians or Vorcha. They look like crap and they probably all smell. And 4 eyes? gross man. Gross.

The thought of a Batarian having some sort of artform or literature or even music makes me hate them more.
so a batarian walks into a bar... you think he would've seen it what with having 4 eyes and all

so a batarian walks into a bar and asks the bartender "do you serve batarians here?" and the bartender replies "yes, would you like him rare or well done?"
 
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You're right. That's because the word for it is Xenophobia.
Which means "A fear of Aliens" - Alien in this context being clinically defined as a fear or dislike of strangers not of your cultural or ethnic background. Ergo - racist.

Google is your friend
 

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Vorcha are awesome. They're like giant, bipedal earthworms with regeneration proteins. It's a shame they're so mindless.
As for Batarians, they're... uh... kinda' boring. That's all.
 

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Azex said:
I really can't stand Batarians or Vorcha. They look like crap and they probably all smell. And 4 eyes? gross man. Gross.

The thought of a Batarian having some sort of artform or literature or even music makes me hate them more.
Nah just a fictional xenophobe. I have a friend like that, its so funny watching him play sci fi and fantasy games.
 

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thanks for all the replies guys. i was just trying to make a point about how i see batariens as kinda under developed, at least in terms of basic "interestingness", compared to the other races. and i tried to do it in a fun way... kinda RP-ing a bit of my Renegade shepard...but those 4 eyes really do make it hard to kill reapers knowing they will benifit too :p

I think my main complaint is even the vorcha have that "one interesting thing" that even though they are pretty one-note its still excusable; i.e an entire culture and way of expressing oneself through pain.

The Baties got nothing...except maybe really cool designs for sunglasses? :p
 

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Why does every anime/Final Fantasy geek post on here assuming that everyone who plays video games/likes movies will know what the Hell they're talking about? I'm a retro gamer and I listen to indie music but you won't see me posting a thread about Heat Man or Steve Malkimus without explaining who they are.
 

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Azex said:
I really can't stand Batarians or Vorcha. They look like crap and they probably all smell. And 4 eyes? gross man. Gross.

The thought of a Batarian having some sort of artform or literature or even music makes me hate them more.
At least they're not those filthy orcs. Or Belgians.
 

Azex

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McMarbles said:
Azex said:
I really can't stand Batarians or Vorcha. They look like crap and they probably all smell. And 4 eyes? gross man. Gross.

The thought of a Batarian having some sort of artform or literature or even music makes me hate them more.
At least they're not those filthy orcs. Or Belgians.
depends on the orcs in question tbh... Orcs from the WoW universe are very cool have a deep history and culture and have been victims of intense racism and hate crimes from the humans.

More generilised orcs i can see your point since they are they stereotypical bad guys