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retyopy

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GigaHz said:
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Don't you have to be 13 to sign up for an account here, or any website?

Also, 10 year olds haven't lived long enough/experienced enough/learned enough to have much of an opinion that I would consider worthwhile.

I'd love to meet one that proves me wrong, but I'll bet a dollar I won't anytime soon, if ever.
Very much this.

Sure, there are exceptions like certified geniuses but one would have to question their genius if they went around broadcasting that they are 10 years old.

For the average case though, 10 year olds are fairly oblivious to what goes on in the real world. All experience they can draw from stems from what they are able to digest on the internet, how they were raised, what they expose themselves in their real lives and school.

They just don't have the maturity level to properly digest and interpret the intricacies of life... Then again, I could say that about some adults I know.
Well, I would have to disagree. When I was ten, I was pretty aware. I read the news. I looked up current and past events. And most of my friends were like that.

Also, I was joking! It was a joke!
 

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Listen to it while realizing that the little kid has got next to no life experience and a developing brain (which is not an insult, insisting children have adult brains is the insult).

There's some 10 year-old who sometimes have value-able opinions, so not listening at all will lead to missing those. But on average they're easily dismissed.

Unless you're their parent in which case you should listen unless they're arguing against your opinion. In which case the child should refer to these two rules:

1. The parent is always right.
2. If the parent is wrong, refer to rule #1.
 

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Of course it bloody does.

Being 10 years old, you will not have lived nearly as long as an adult, had as many experiences or learned as much information. Their opinion will be formulated with less reasoning, based on less prior knowledge, and phrased with less coherency. Unless you're discussing something that a ten year old would actually have a further or more developed understanding of, but that's obvious.

Also everyone thinks they were smarter than their parents. Unless you have stupid parents or you're in university, you probably aren't.
 

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Hagi said:
Listen to it while realizing that the little kid has got next to no life experience and a developing brain (which is not an insult, insisting children have adult brains is the insult).

There's some 10 year-old who sometimes have value-able opinions, so not listening at all will lead to missing those. But on average they're easily dismissed.

Unless you're their parent in which case you should listen unless they're arguing against your opinion. In which case the child should refer to these two rules:

1. The parent is always right.
2. If the parent is wrong, refer to rule #1.
Well, that's pretty one sided. No other sides are right? Ever? The child has no chance in hell?
 

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I don't think anything. Just don't use the mic when your voice sounds like a rubbing glove rubbing a plastic surface. It's really annoying to have squeaky noises come from the mic when you are playing a game which involved murder, blood, and de-limbing.
 

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It really depends on the 10 year old in question.
Maybe a few can hold their own, but most can't which makes their opinion less valuable because they can not bring it across or aren't smart and/or experienced enough to have a grasp of the situation/idea/debate.

Any opinion is worthless in a debate if you can't bring it across clearly!
 

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retyopy said:
Well, that's pretty one sided. No other sides are right? Ever?
In an argument between parent and 10 year-old child? Nope, never.

Anyone else is free to disagree with the parent, and there's no rule saying the parent has to be a dick. And if it goes out of hand the authorities have every right to interfere.

But a child of 10 listens to his parents, they're supposed to raise him. That means he's supposed to listen.
 

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There is a reason kids need to go to school :p

Hell, there's a reason i'm still in education. A ten year old cannot put together an argument well and if one does its known as the exception to the rule. Yeah, that last bit was totally put there to put off those assholes who show one video of a smart 10 year old and try to pass if off as the only example of 10 year old's in the world.

Kids are usually loudmouthed and whiny, even online. The few that haven't been are usually the ones who are smarter, but usually, they'll still not have the experience to argue their point across.
 

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Well, it depends on the context. I wouldn't expect you to be much of an authority on the mood after 9/11, or to have a real opinion on the O.J. Simpson trial, or just how amazing an athlete was Bo Jackson.
 

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It depends on the topic. A 10 year old's thoughts on, say, a game is just as valid as any other person's opinion. But if we're discussing something that relates to real world experiences or general adult stuff, then you have to question the 10 year old's knowledge and credibility in the discussion.

And generally they aren't as sophisticated, intelligent or educated enough to hold much weight in certain discussions.
Pretty much this, If you want to see the limits of a 10 year olds reasoning and intelligence, watch Newsround on the BBC. It's basically the news for teenagers. Yes, they are able to dicuss the mature topics, but usually it's heavily watered down and simplified so the complexity of the situation is kind of lost, and then teens can text in their opinions of the issues, and usually you find that they say two things, either: "Everyones ignoring our opinion, and that's terrible." Or "Adults are so dumb, the answer to the problem is clearly this."
 

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In of itself it doesn't. But I, unlike you (apparently) haven't met a 10 year old who can debate against an adult.

Just like most of the arguments you here on this forum from teenagers aren't invalid BECAUSE they're teenagers. But the fact that they're teenagers makes it more likely that their arguments will be shallow and poorly thought out. :)
 

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retyopy said:
Well, that's pretty one sided. No other sides are right? Ever?
Nope.

Parents are always right ..... regardless.

Especially my wife, she's never wrong ..... and if she is ever wrong and I point it out I get a night on the sofa ..... so she's never wrong.

I've never lost an argument with any of my kids. All arguments can be settled with 4 simple words "go to your room", argument over, I win.

I wouldn't say age makes much difference. My stepdaughter is 18 and there are times she gets the misguided impression she can win.

Also depends on the points being debated.
 

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For me, it depends on the discussion/opinion. But generally, in my opinion, most 10 year olds do not have as much experience in life or, for want of a better word, wisdom as older people. That's not to say they are worthless as human beings! But if I wanted a rational debate on something, I'd not immediately ask a 10 year olds opinion.
 

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It's a bit of an awkward issue, really.

Something said by a ten year old is not automatically wrong.

On the other hand, the thought processes and experiences of a ten year old are going to generally be considered to be of much less worth than an older person.

So, presumably the correct response is to listen to the ten year old, judge what they say, but not be surprised if they turn out to be wrong.

On the other hand, though, that logic means you have to put up with listening to every gibbering idiot, in case they aren't wrong this time.

For example, I've never been to Kansas, I've never met anyone from there, I've never researched it. If I was to come up with a long post about how Kansas people, you shouldn't pay too much attention to me at all. I can jump up and down and tell you all to listen, you don't know I'm wrong till you've you do (and won't all you Kansas people stop whatever you are doing and explain the truth to me so I don't have to research it myself), but nobody will blame you for ignoring me.
 

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retyopy said:
Or let's say, hypothetically, that I was. Does that lessen the value of my opinion? Does that make my part in a discussion less worthwhile?
That depends. For example, when it comes to sex related discussion then yes, your opinion is worth shit (even less than that).
Also, you probably didn't get self aware till about 3 and at that age, you just swallowed whatever anyone told you so during your kindergarten years, you were just a sponge.
When you got to school, you were busy learning how to write and count to form complex opinions of various subjects.
Basically, it all comes down to is who were the people you were growing up among (and genes, I guess) and what kind of knowledge you've absorbed in the few years you've spent on this planet.
I've met an 11 year old who was a much better discussion partner on the topic of religion than grown ups. Because of the fact that he was still in the process of forming himself (probably) he actually thought about the possibility that The Bible might just be false instead of what the grown ups present at the time said (the best answer I've got was "Scientists have recently found evidence of the existence of a soul"). He also didn't have that sense of superiority over others (age thing I suppose).

So I think that 10-year can be good discussion partners... but they're usually not since they're still dumb fucks like everyone else, except with less knowledge :)
 

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Yes.
A 10 year old has no life experience. They don't have the credentials to back up their aguments. They've never had to work for a living, they've never had any responsibilities, they've never done anything of merit. Their brains aren't even fully developed yet.

They're 10 years old, they're children.


You can't judge everyone on the standards of the few superior individuals.
They will prove themselves despite any preconceptions.
 

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No, but the likelyhood of your opinion being valid on its own merit is far lower than if you were, say, 20.

Not due to age, but due to -

* More life experience
* Having had more time to accumulate knowledge
* Having had more time to develop your critical thinking skills
 

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Yes it does. For a number of reasons:

1 They lack knowledge and life experience. Their arguments are most likely based on faulty of incomplete information. They are not yet well educated in how to present an opinion with proper arguments. Very normal, everybody has to learn this stuff, nobody is born with it

2 Their brains are still developing. As such they do physically lack the mental ability of adults, they have shorter attention spans leading to faulty logic, a predisposition to accept things without thinking about them or questioning them and a narrower view of the world around them

3 Kids are less likely to form a cold, logical argument, and more likely to color their opinions with emotional value.

That however doesn't mean that a 10 year old can't be right or think things through or win an argument. It just means that an average 10 year old is generally less capable of that than an average adult.