In the riddle's (for Humpty-Dumpty's origins are as a riddle) original 19th-century form, Humpty-Dumpty was explicitly referred to as a "he" ("Threescore men and threescore more/cannot place Humpty Dumpty as he was before"), which is likely the source of the notion that Humpty-Dumpty is male.EeveeElectro said:As for a little story, my niece is 8; I picked her up from school one day and she had drawn me a picture of Humpty Dumpty, but she'd drawn Humpty as a girl.
I said, "You do know Humpty is a boy?" she replied, "it doesn't say in the poem that Humpty is a boy, so I drew her as a girl."
I was stunned, it was something I never picked up on in the past. Not all kids are stupid who don't deserve an opinion like a lot of people would have you believe.
Children have a certain knack for being very candid about their opinions, and can ignore certain things like connotations or bias when they look at things. Things like that come with age and experience, which at that point they don't have. So yes, I think children can provide refreshing views on things. Simpler views, and at times shortsighted ones, but we as adults have a habit of staring too closely at what is directly in front of us to see the big picture. Children don't have that problem as much.retyopy said:-snip-
There were gay Nazisretyopy said:Or let's say, hypothetically, that I was. Does that lessen the value of my opinion? Does that make my part in a discussion less worthwhile?
Let me explain. For reasons that have gradually been lost to mankind, I was thinking about age. This eventaully led to me thinking about the value of a ten year olds opinion, which eventaully led to this discussion: Does age lessen the value of opinions/the worth of their part in an argument or discussion? And I'm not talking about teenagers. I'm talking about 10-12 year olds, those idiotic little twerps that continue to call me a gay nazi ****** who sleeps with his dog(there beinng several problems with that statement, one that gay people were persecuted by the nazis, and two that I don't have a dog).
And you might say, 'It doesn't, but no ten year olds are going to put together a valid argument.' That is wrong. I have spoken to ten year olds that could hold their own in a debate with their parents. I was a ten year old like that. But apparently, age is the factor that decides how much your opinion is worth, and age can totally be used against you as an insult.
And no, I'm not 10. How could you think that? I'm 9! (By the way, that was me making a funny. So don't murder me. I was joking.)
To be honest I began maturing when I was 11.SirBryghtside said:Yes, you're less mature and experienced if you're 10. it gets fuzzier when you get older than that, but I have yet to meet a 10 year old who is socially mature.
Pretty much this. Taking part in a debate contest with adults and people of various ages I can say that while I met some very intelligent younger people (not as young as 10, more like 13) their ability to reason effectively from experience was pretty poor and they tended to make rasher jumps of logic in an attempt to hold an argument together. I saw that rather than concede a point the younger contestants would rather change their argument to the point that they made themselves sound weak at sticking to a point and very hard to pin down as believing in a point as absolutely true. This culminated in the wiki leaks debate where a younger contestant tried to push that (he is arguing it is good) that Julian Assange has the perfect right to tell and not tell us things that he feels like and wiki leaks can still hold integrity, when pushed time and time again about the fallible nature of the owner corrupting the concept of wiki leaks.Generic Gamer said:By and large ten year olds don't have the ability to appreciate the full consequences of their actions, the ability to logically follow a situation through to it's logical conclusion or the sheer experience needed to put together a complex hypothesis.
There's nothing saying that a ten year old can't be correct but they are less likely to be able to extrapolate an answer they don't already know because they are less likely to be able to interpret evidence correctly.