I'm so hungry, I could eat a horse-lasagne!

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If they don't know what the meat is, then they don't know whether it's fit for human consumption. If it was just a case of mislabeling edible meat, then fine. It would still be unacceptable, but we have absolutely no idea where this meat comes from, what is in it, when and how it was killed and butchered, the veterinary history of the animals involved and so forth, and it's been ages since since this scandal broke. If an actual criminal investigation can't reliably trace this meat, something is badly wrong.

Not all meat is safe to eat. Next time something like this happens, it could make people seriously ill. People could die as a result. This scandal isn't actually about how horsemeat is icky, none of the affected countries ban the sale of horsemeat. The issue is that if people are able to get away with passing off the wrong type of meat for profit, it's reasonable to assume that sooner or later someone is going to pass off meat which is unfit for consumption for the same reason.
 

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TizzytheTormentor said:
robot slipper said:
In the wake of the recent horsemeat-burger scandal, it has now been found that some frozen Findus lasagnes in the UK are 100% horsemeat.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21375594

My feeling on this is that it is not ok to package something as beef and it's actually horse. It's obviously being done on the sly by the suppliers, so who knows what condition it's been in and what drugs the horses might have been taking which people could now be eating. What are people's thoughts on this? Should the companies have legal action against them for not monitoring their suppliers properly? And what are your thoughts on horse-meat in general?

I know I feel slightly grossed out now, as I am usually lazy on the weekends and eat frozen ready meals, so who knows what is actually in them. Then again, I am partial to the occasional chicken nugget, and those probably don't have much chicken in them either.

And how many horse-meat related jokes have you heard on the radio or read in the news today? I've heard a LOT.
Lasangne? Personally, I prefer Speghetti Bologneighs!

Or perhaps some Filly Con Carni!

No worries though, at least people who ate the meat are in a stable condition!
I don't get why everyone's long in the face over it, I mean it's still food right?

Thats the mane thing I think, people here really need to get over the hurdle of eating horse meat.
 

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I'm actually pretty sure the UK is more worried about the chemicals that were once used on the horses that have suddenly ended up as meatbags.

With that said who's for dog and cat tongue?.
What about the still beating heart of a king cobra? I hear that's tasty!
 

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I'm actually pretty sure the UK is more worried about the chemicals that were once used on the horses that have suddenly ended up as meatbags.

With that said who's for dog and cat tongue?.
What about the still beating heart of a king cobra? I hear that's tasty!
My mother's eaten snake meat before and she claimed it was tasty as well as horse meat and my stepdad has eaten kangaroo and Ostrich meat before so I can tell they've been there already =P.
 

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Shadow-Phoenix said:
SkarKrow said:
Shadow-Phoenix said:
I'm actually pretty sure the UK is more worried about the chemicals that were once used on the horses that have suddenly ended up as meatbags.

With that said who's for dog and cat tongue?.
What about the still beating heart of a king cobra? I hear that's tasty!
My mother's eaten snake meat before and she claimed it was tasty as well as horse meat and my stepdad has eaten kangaroo and Ostrich meat before so I can tell they've been there already =P.
Awesome, I know in vietnam they'll kill the snake in front of you and give you the heart still beating with vodka and blood to wash it down. I wanna try it!

I also hear whale is pretty good, like chewy irony steak...

People also tell me insects are tasty but no thanks.
 

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Well I personally wouldn't eat a horse on purpose, unless I had to to survive, to me they're about as loyal as a dog, then again I heard pigs can be the same, then again bacon.

Either way, if I ask/buy a beef lasagne or beef whatever I don't the meat within to be anything other than what comes from cattle.
 

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Can't care if they put horse meat in whatever they sell, as long as there is a nice; OI! horse meat in here! sticker on it.

Selling horse meat as beef (or anything else) Can get you in a few fun lawsuits.
 

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I can certainly understand why people are concerned about this not only was the meat mislabeled and falsely advertised but where this meat came from and its history is unknown which is quite alarming.

As to taboo of horse meat meh after eating whale and deep fried cricket horse seems rather tame.
 

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I think mislabelling something is wrong, but I don't really care about the horsemeat. Heck, I've had Kangaroo (and it was damn good too.)
 

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This situation could be a lot worse they might find a guy called Sweeney Todd on the meat suppliers payroll.
 

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FolkLikePanda said:
Well I personally wouldn't eat a horse on purpose, unless I had to to survive, to me they're about as loyal as a dog, then again I heard pigs can be the same, then again bacon.

Either way, if I ask/buy a beef lasagne or beef whatever I don't the meat within to be anything other than what comes from cattle.
I share a somewhat similar sentiment. In my case since my grandparents live in a farming community I have been around pigs/boars, horses, deer, cows, and I found that the former two are just too intelligent to be relegated to a food source with pigs possessing a relatively high degree of sentience and horses bordering on the lower end of it. I would not mind if they took horses or pigs that were put down from suffering and made them into food but I could not make myself eat them deliberately otherwise. I personally cannot remember the last time I had ham or bacon not from a family farm after they put down an old breeding sow.

As for the latter two their position in the wild is of a high quantity prey species. Looking at the population count and mortality rates of various species in relation to their intelligence is more or less my way of determining whether or not my personal morals dictate I do not eat that animal. Furthermore I do not condone the shabby treatment that I have personally witnessed of animals in slaughterhouses, it is just cruel. Thankfully there have been improvements but I prefer to get some of my meat from my grandparents who get a lot of it from the surrounding farms where (I hope to God) they get better treatment.

I know I will be called out for over sentimentality, hypocrisy, or skewing this fact or another but quite frankly, I do not give a damn. I am not telling anyone to copy my morals or what they should think thus I cannot see how it hurts anyone speaking my mind in that regard.

Now where did I put my pen...
 

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Ziggy said:
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Frankly, I wish the English speaking world would just hurry up and get over its horsemeat = bad taboo.
Are you French? Because i remember reading that eating horse meat is not a taboo in France.
Nope, not French, just a 'Murican who likes trying new things. :)
I have eaten horse meat I think twice in my life. It was meat. Nothing special, but nothing to be grossed out or morally outraged about.

Never had dog or cat either (that I know of) but I wouldn't mind trying it... as long as I didn't know the dog/cat personally beforehand.
 

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BeeGeenie said:
Frankly, I wish the English speaking world would just hurry up and get over its horsemeat = bad taboo. Although mislabeling your product is still a scummy thing to do.
I agree!
I REALLY want a horse burger. They sound delicious!
Also, isn't horse like, really good for you (well better than beef anyway)?

However, it was really shitty of these companies to lie to people...
 

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Our Swedish horse meat is actually labeled "hamburger meat", but everone knows it's horse. But unlike you U.K folks, we don't care, and just eat our horse.
 

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as someone who has eaten my own coat of arms (emu and kangaroo) as well as dog it wouldn't bother me but truth in packaging is important
 

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If I can convince 1 person how stupid this whole thing is I will be a happy bunny.

Do you have any idea what's in anything you eat? How much meat do you think is in a sausage? I'll give you a clue, it's not even close to 50%. Go read the ingredients on the next "healthy" thing you eat... I bet you don't recognise half the shit in there.

Go to YouTube, type in "Britain's really disgusting food", watch it and then come back here and tell me how much you care about horse meat.

I'm surprised they have meat in there still, I don't care where the meat comes from.

You have to be ignorant to these things or you could eat anything, you don't think where the food in kfc has been/come from.... We all know of horror stories
 

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I'm not a fan of anyone selling me one thing when it's really another. What they did was a sucky thing to do, and I think punishments are in order. I've gotta say, though, that I'd much rather eat horse than American beef. The cows we raise here in the states are straight-up rank.