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Boneasse

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Walker100 said:
AS a fellow writer I think it sounds interesting. I'd read more.
wildwind1290 said:
Cool! I'm working on one, too. Here's to our mutual success.
wildwind1290 said:
Cool! I'm working on one, too. Here's to our mutual success.
Here here, mate!
The Lawn said:
I found it a quite interesting read, and I would enjoy reading more.

Best of luck on your venture! I wish you and your story the best.
And thanks to the rest :-D I'm glad so many people decided to read it.
 

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Agree with those asking for more descriptions. Also, I would like to add that you should probably add some more distinction between thought and speech. That's what turned me off when I read the first bits of Eragon when the dragon starts "talking"; not to be disrespectful to the author, but it was a clusterfuck having no distinction between normal text and "telepathy".

In general, I've seen italics for purely personal thoughts, and "parenthesis" for regular talking, with whispers being in 'these' (forget what they're called, sadly enough... and I did so well in high school English D: ). Also, using "'smaller parentheses' within larger ones" usually denotes when a character is quoting another character.

For me, myself, if there's two people speaking to each other via some sort of telepathic communication, I use a 'combination' of the "three", depending upon what I want, and whether multiple methods are being used or not (ie- soul-speak and telepathy at the same time). But that's just me o:

There's different styles depending upon the author, but the first three I mentioned are the most common standard. I've seen telepathy in ~italic squigglies~, but for long speeches that can get confusing. Point is, try to make some distinction, so the audience knows how one is speaking. Even when telling the audience beforehand or afterwards, its best just for distinguishing what is what.

What I do like is your distinction as to who is talking. Some people (and I've caught myself doing this) tend to just have their characters go on and on, with no difference in who is talking, or if there was a pause or moment of consideration. They might use "...(add words here)" but that's it. I applaud you.

Also, the pacing was fairly good, though a bit rough. Some revision would help.

And yes, revision can mean rewriting. You wouldn't believe how many errors you can find just by revising a few paragraphs. It also means watching out for new mistakes as well, though. Spelling, punctuation, and grammar checks are crucial for the final version, but I would do them constantly, as that means less work later on. Finally, on a similar note to earlier, don't forget to keep your descriptions clear and clean, so people know what they are; even if you make up words for something, be sure that people can figure out what they are so they can enjoy your writing as much as you do.

If you want a solid, short example of a well-written novel/book, I would suggest The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho (the translated version, unless you can read Portuguese). Read it in my senior year of high school, and it gave me inspiration to write again after I'd given up :D Its short and sweet, but deep and enthralling all the same... like the game Portal o_O

On that note, I should get back to my own story, which I continue to neglect due to this forum and my ADHD complex (just more proof that boundless energy can be a curse DX ). To conclude, for a first draft, this is fairly excellent, and I don't say that very often, being the overly-opinionated and slightly-pompous bastard that I have become. Why IS Jaiden (or whatever his name ends up being) different from the others? WHY!? Keep writing, and never give up on your dreams and ambitions.
 

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swytchblayd said:
Agree with those asking for more descriptions. Also, I would like to add that you should probably add some more distinction between thought and speech. That's what turned me off when I read the first bits of Eragon when the dragon starts "talking"; not to be disrespectful to the author, but it was a clusterfuck having no distinction between normal text and "telepathy".

In general, I've seen italics for purely personal thoughts, and "parenthesis" for regular talking, with whispers being in 'these' (forget what they're called, sadly enough... and I did so well in high school English D: ). Also, using "'smaller parentheses' within larger ones" usually denotes when a character is quoting another character.

For me, myself, if there's two people speaking to each other via some sort of telepathic communication, I use a 'combination' of the "three", depending upon what I want, and whether multiple methods are being used or not (ie- soul-speak and telepathy at the same time). But that's just me o:

There's different styles depending upon the author, but the first three I mentioned are the most common standard. I've seen telepathy in ~italic squigglies~, but for long speeches that can get confusing. Point is, try to make some distinction, so the audience knows how one is speaking. Even when telling the audience beforehand or afterwards, its best just for distinguishing what is what.

What I do like is your distinction as to who is talking. Some people (and I've caught myself doing this) tend to just have their characters go on and on, with no difference in who is talking, or if there was a pause or moment of consideration. They might use "...(add words here)" but that's it. I applaud you.

Also, the pacing was fairly good, though a bit rough. Some revision would help.

And yes, revision can mean rewriting. You wouldn't believe how many errors you can find just by revising a few paragraphs. It also means watching out for new mistakes as well, though. Spelling, punctuation, and grammar checks are crucial for the final version, but I would do them constantly, as that means less work later on. Finally, on a similar note to earlier, don't forget to keep your descriptions clear and clean, so people know what they are; even if you make up words for something, be sure that people can figure out what they are so they can enjoy your writing as much as you do.

If you want a solid, short example of a well-written novel/book, I would suggest The Alchemist by Paulo Coelho (the translated version, unless you can read Portuguese). Read it in my senior year of high school, and it gave me inspiration to write again after I'd given up :D Its short and sweet, but deep and enthralling all the same... like the game Portal o_O

On that note, I should get back to my own story, which I continue to neglect due to this forum and my ADHD complex (just more proof that boundless energy can be a curse DX ). To conclude, for a first draft, this is fairly excellent, and I don't say that very often, being the overly-opinionated and slightly-pompous bastard that I have become. Why IS Jaiden (or whatever his name ends up being) different from the others? WHY!? Keep writing, and never give up on your dreams and ambitions.
Why eh? It's coming! Don't worry. Follow the story on my blog ;-) I've already improved the first chapter, though I haven't posted it yet!

I thought about the "direct thinking" thing, and maybe it would be a good idea to put that like this so I think I'll do that. It can seem very confusing otherwise?

Thanks for the long reply and praisde, though :)

EDIT: And good luck on your story :)
 

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I will try to follow as I get the chance to. Have like a hundred things going on all at once and none of them are finished. I'm sure we all know what that's like >..< That's actually somewhat helpful, as one can come back and read what was written years ago if they so wish o_O

Sorry about making it so long though. I have a terrible tendency to just begin rambling. Its usually how my stories start, even when I don't want them to. And actually, this current one is the most confusing thing I've ever come up with that will (hopefully, along with some serious development on all fronts) actually make sense eventually. Don't want to ruin anything good, but it involves a female soldier, her favorite game, a cat-chick-thing (no furry fan-flic pr0nz, thankfully), and some pendants.

See? I'm rambling. Can't help it.

Anyhow, thanks o: I'll try hard to keep up with it, and not let it die like my other projects.
 

Boneasse

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Yeah I know, it adds to the pile of things to do.

Sounds interesting though, I hope it works out for you and that it doesn't die on you!
 

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hand. 'So he hit me in the hollow of my knee,' he thought.
Just standing there, looking at Jaiden, Paul finally opened his mouth, pointed to his left and said, 'Hah! I got you good there, didn't I? We thought you might run, so I hid in the bushes there, waiting for you to run by!'

You can't use inverted commas for thoughts and for speech. For thoughts, italics is more appropriate.
 

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Queen Michael said:
hand. 'So he hit me in the hollow of my knee,' he thought.
Just standing there, looking at Jaiden, Paul finally opened his mouth, pointed to his left and said, 'Hah! I got you good there, didn't I? We thought you might run, so I hid in the bushes there, waiting for you to run by!'

You can't use inverted commas for thoughts and for speech. For thoughts, italics is more appropriate.
Yeah, I realized that, which is why I've changed it to being strictly italics. I just can't be bothered to do it on here, but it's done on my blog: http://endoraia.blogspot.com/
 

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Boneasse said:
Queen Michael said:
hand. 'So he hit me in the hollow of my knee,' he thought.
Just standing there, looking at Jaiden, Paul finally opened his mouth, pointed to his left and said, 'Hah! I got you good there, didn't I? We thought you might run, so I hid in the bushes there, waiting for you to run by!'

You can't use inverted commas for thoughts and for speech. For thoughts, italics is more appropriate.
Yeah, I realized that, which is why I've changed it to being strictly italics. I just can't be bothered to do it on here, but it's done on my blog: http://endoraia.blogspot.com/
I didn't know that. I withdraw my criticism.
 

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Queen Michael said:
Boneasse said:
Queen Michael said:
hand. 'So he hit me in the hollow of my knee,' he thought.
Just standing there, looking at Jaiden, Paul finally opened his mouth, pointed to his left and said, 'Hah! I got you good there, didn't I? We thought you might run, so I hid in the bushes there, waiting for you to run by!'

You can't use inverted commas for thoughts and for speech. For thoughts, italics is more appropriate.
Yeah, I realized that, which is why I've changed it to being strictly italics. I just can't be bothered to do it on here, but it's done on my blog: http://endoraia.blogspot.com/
I didn't know that. I withdraw my criticism.
Haha, is alright mate :) taking all the help I can get.
 

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ANTI-SANTA said:
I didn't get this much possitive feed back when I posted the first chapter of my book. *goes off and sulks quietly*
Sorry to hear that mate :-(
 

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Boneasse said:
barryween said:
Not bad. I find it interesting, but won't really be hooked until I find out why Jaiden is a "freak" and "Isn't like all the other kids"
Sounds mighty good if you can keep up the pacing and details.
I'm getting there, mate. Don't worry :)
Good, because you really got me wondering.
I would really go out and buy a copy if it ever got published, you'll have to PM me the title and where I could find it if anything does happen.
Also, I kinda agree with the name Jaiden. It's not the most heroic. i mean it doesn't matter too much, but if you think of a better one then by all means, use that.
 

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Slowly, panic started to take over Jaiden's mind as the five other Rats came hurrying towards the two. What was he going to do?
Stylistically, rhetoric is just plain weird in fiction. Find alternatives, make the reader infer his mental state, empathize with his character and worry about what he will do next, don't take shortcuts.
 

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I was thinking about starting another book today, and seeing this post sealed the deal.

*Fires up Microsoft Word*

What you have there is definately a good start. I would work a little on grammar and spelling in a couple of areas (yeah, that has been said already). There is definately room for the characters to grow, just be sure you don't get too carried away with character development... I did that with one of my (unfinished) books, and it became troublesome to read.
 

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barryween said:
Boneasse said:
barryween said:
Not bad. I find it interesting, but won't really be hooked until I find out why Jaiden is a "freak" and "Isn't like all the other kids"
Sounds mighty good if you can keep up the pacing and details.
I'm getting there, mate. Don't worry :)
Good, because you really got me wondering.
I would really go out and buy a copy if it ever got published, you'll have to PM me the title and where I could find it if anything does happen.
Also, I kinda agree with the name Jaiden. It's not the most heroic. i mean it doesn't matter too much, but if you think of a better one then by all means, use that.
Yeah I might change it. I just liked the way it sounded.

Uncompetative said:
Slowly, panic started to take over Jaiden's mind as the five other Rats came hurrying towards the two. What was he going to do?
Stylistically, rhetoric is just plain weird in fiction. Find alternatives, make the reader infer his mental state, empathize with his character and worry about what he will do next, don't take shortcuts.
So, not let him wonder in a question, but actually diverge into the options he has.

KingTeabag said:
Nicely done, man.

I already feel a deep hatred for that Simon, what a bastard.
Gets worse!

tsb247 said:
I was thinking about starting another book today, and seeing this post sealed the deal.

*Fires up Microsoft Word*

What you have there is definately a good start. I would work a little on grammar and spelling in a couple of areas (yeah, that has been said already). There is definately room for the characters to grow, just be sure you don't get too carried away with character development... I did that with one of my (unfinished) books, and it became troublesome to read.
Well, again I'm glad to be of assistance :-D And I'll not let it get too complicated.
 

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I know I'm posting in an old thread, but I FINALLY read the rest of Chapter 1. It's good.I like James better then Jaiden. Good pacing and all that jazz.
Like I said before, can't wait to find out what James' "freaky-ness" is!