I'm worried about the upcoming Avengers movie.

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LarenzoAOG

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So the other day I got to see a Pre-release showing of Captain America, which I thought was pretty good, but I'm really worried that the Avengers movie is going to be very thinly spread, I also believe that the movie won't live up to the hype.

My first concern is that the studio is going to try to focus on all the heroes individually, rather than the Avengers as a team, I think that the strongest feature of all the super hero movies so far is that they get to flesh out the new interpretations of some of our favorite heroes, which works very well when you make a movie about one hero, but if they try to do that not only with the heroes that make up the Avengers team, but also all their love interests and secondary charecters, it will feel thinly spread.

Think about it, I may not be the biggest comic book/movie buff, also I can't remeber ever charecter's name, but I'll try to name off all the charecters that had considerable screen time and charecter building in the movies leading up to the Avengers.

The Hulk

Tony Stark

Tony Stark's love interest Pepper somthing or other

Howard Stark

Scarlett Johansen's charecter

War Machine

Nick Fury

Thor

Natalie Portman's charecter in Thor the movie

Natalie Portman's surrogate father/mentor charecter

The agent guy that shows up in Iron Man and Thor

Hawkeye or whatever the name of the Bow and arrow guy that had a bit part in Thor but was Shown in the Avenger teaser at the end of Captain America

Captain America

That's alot of charecters that we are probably going to see in the Avengers movie, and if they are all given even 15 minutes of charecter building or team chemistry scenes then the Avengers is going to be one long ass movie. And even if the movie is a masterful production focusing on fleshing out the charecters even more, I'm afraid that the whole conflict of the movie might suffer.

My second concern is that we've all been looking forward to an Avengers movie since 2008, and I'm afraid that when the movie does come out it will be killed by the huge amounts of hype, we all know that hype can be a very bad thing or a very good thing, and I'm worried that the Avengers will be a good movie but that everyone will hate it because it didn't live up to the massive amounts of hype.

TL;DR: Afraid that the movie will have too much charecter/relationship builing and the main narrative and conflict will suffer or vice versa, and that the considerable hype will create unrealistic vision of what the movie will be and affect how people judge the movie.

What do you guys think? Are you looking forward with giddy delight or are you apprehensive like me?
 

Saelune

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A former Marvel Comics writer is the director. Never have I been more confident in a movie adaptation.
(Imagine if the Hitman movie was directed by someone from IO?)
 

NickCaligo42

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Joss Whedon is directing it. He specializes in writing ensemble teams like this. Oh, don't you worry, it's in good hands.
 

Gxas

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Well, since I'm able to control myself, I am not overhyping the movie at all. The problems you list are not problems to be concerned with. The problem to be concerned with is the fact that Edward Norton still has not signed to the movie, leaving us Banner-less. Sure, you can throw the Hulk in Hulk form forever, but it pulls away so much when you don't have Banner as a part of him.

Screw you, Norton. You should have signed.
 

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Saelune said:
A former Marvel Comics writer is the director. Never have I been more confident in a movie adaptation.
(Imagine if the Hitman movie was directed by someone from IO?)
Yeah, Joss Whedon is going to be directing the Avengers movie.

I have no doubts that this movie is going to be freaking amazing.
 

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Every film like this will have some fanboys somewhere all butthurt (not that I am implying you in this statement). This series of marvel runs has been in essence a reboot and for Joss "firefly" Whedon to be at the helm is quite frankly one of the best results any of us could have hoped for. IMO yeah it is possible that the characters may be too individual and not coherent as a team but if I'm honest I think it will be intentional. Take Ironman 2 for example, that film is all about Tony Stark not playing nicely with others, tell me that doesn't sound like its setting up for some interesting character conflict in the avengers? I am not saying this will be the best film ever but it has HUGE potential and I believe in the Whedon.
 

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Joss Whedon, the man has a gift for ensembles, read his run on Astonish X-Men and Runaways, he can handle a large team, if that isn't enough watch Buffy and Angel, again lots of characters working together in one screen. I have hope, THIS IS THE AVENGERS. It has to turn out amazing. No excuses. The man can write, the actors are fine, and production is high, there is no excuse that this movie shouldn't be AMAZING
 

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I don't think that Jane Foster, Pepper Potts and assorted others are going to feature that heavily, they'll probably be in there providing some background, but they won't get much development, that will be saved for their respective films (Thor 2, Iron Man 3 etc).

I think the key focus of the film will be the Avengers interacting, mainly Iron Man, Thor and Captain America's iconic friendship, with Hawkeye, the Hulk and Black Widow providing a smaller amount of screen time.

I think Joss Whedon can write a good ensemble cast film after Serenity.
Josue Rodriguez said:
Joss Whedon, the man has a gift for ensembles, read his run on Astonish X-Men and Runaways
I actually can't stand his Runaways run (but probably just because he isn't Brian K. Vaughan)

Gxas said:
Well, since I'm able to control myself, I am not overhyping the movie at all. The problems you list are not problems to be concerned with. The problem to be concerned with is the fact that Edward Norton still has not signed to the movie, leaving us Banner-less. Sure, you can throw the Hulk in Hulk form forever, but it pulls away so much when you don't have Banner as a part of him.

Screw you, Norton. You should have signed.
Mark Ruffalo is playing Bruce Banner, also I believe the rumour is Marvel didn't offer Norton the role again, because while he's a fantastic actor supposedly he can be very hard to work with.
 

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LarenzoAOG said:
So the other day I got to see a Pre-release showing of Captain America, which I thought was pretty good, but I'm really worried that the Avengers movie is going to be very thinly spread, I also believe that the movie won't live up to the hype.

My first concern is that the studio is going to try to focus on all the heroes individually, rather than the Avengers as a team, I think that the strongest feature of all the super hero movies so far is that they get to flesh out the new interpretations of some of our favorite heroes, which works very well when you make a movie about one hero, but if they try to do that not only with the heroes that make up the Avengers team, but also all their love interests and secondary charecters, it will feel thinly spread.

Think about it, I may not be the biggest comic book/movie buff, also I can't remeber ever charecter's name, but I'll try to name off all the charecters that had considerable screen time and charecter building in the movies leading up to the Avengers.

The Hulk

Tony Stark

Tony Stark's love interest Pepper somthing or other

Howard Stark

Scarlett Johansen's charecter

War Machine

Nick Fury

Thor

Natalie Portman's charecter in Thor the movie

Natalie Portman's surrogate father/mentor charecter

The agent guy that shows up in Iron Man and Thor

Hawkeye or whatever the name of the Bow and arrow guy that had a bit part in Thor but was Shown in the Avenger teaser at the end of Captain America

Captain America

That's alot of charecters that we are probably going to see in the Avengers movie, and if they are all given even 15 minutes of charecter building or team chemistry scenes then the Avengers is going to be one long ass movie. And even if the movie is a masterful production focusing on fleshing out the charecters even more, I'm afraid that the whole conflict of the movie might suffer.

My second concern is that we've all been looking forward to an Avengers movie since 2008, and I'm afraid that when the movie does come out it will be killed by the huge amounts of hype, we all know that hype can be a very bad thing or a very good thing, and I'm worried that the Avengers will be a good movie but that everyone will hate it because it didn't live up to the massive amounts of hype.

TL;DR: Afraid that the movie will have too much charecter/relationship builing and the main narrative and conflict will suffer or vice versa, and that the considerable hype will create unrealistic vision of what the movie will be and affect how people judge the movie.

What do you guys think? Are you looking forward with giddy delight or are you apprehensive like me?
War Machine isn't going to be in the Avengers at all and the whole point of giving each character their own movie (besdies all that money of course) is to do they're character building beforehand. This movie is certainly going to be about how these characters interact with each other and i personally think that will be the most intriguing part of the film.
 

LarenzoAOG

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clipse15 said:
LarenzoAOG said:
So the other day I got to see a Pre-release showing of Captain America, which I thought was pretty good, but I'm really worried that the Avengers movie is going to be very thinly spread, I also believe that the movie won't live up to the hype.

My first concern is that the studio is going to try to focus on all the heroes individually, rather than the Avengers as a team, I think that the strongest feature of all the super hero movies so far is that they get to flesh out the new interpretations of some of our favorite heroes, which works very well when you make a movie about one hero, but if they try to do that not only with the heroes that make up the Avengers team, but also all their love interests and secondary charecters, it will feel thinly spread.

Think about it, I may not be the biggest comic book/movie buff, also I can't remeber ever charecter's name, but I'll try to name off all the charecters that had considerable screen time and charecter building in the movies leading up to the Avengers.

The Hulk

Tony Stark

Tony Stark's love interest Pepper somthing or other

Howard Stark

Scarlett Johansen's charecter

War Machine

Nick Fury

Thor

Natalie Portman's charecter in Thor the movie

Natalie Portman's surrogate father/mentor charecter

The agent guy that shows up in Iron Man and Thor

Hawkeye or whatever the name of the Bow and arrow guy that had a bit part in Thor but was Shown in the Avenger teaser at the end of Captain America

Captain America

That's alot of charecters that we are probably going to see in the Avengers movie, and if they are all given even 15 minutes of charecter building or team chemistry scenes then the Avengers is going to be one long ass movie. And even if the movie is a masterful production focusing on fleshing out the charecters even more, I'm afraid that the whole conflict of the movie might suffer.

My second concern is that we've all been looking forward to an Avengers movie since 2008, and I'm afraid that when the movie does come out it will be killed by the huge amounts of hype, we all know that hype can be a very bad thing or a very good thing, and I'm worried that the Avengers will be a good movie but that everyone will hate it because it didn't live up to the massive amounts of hype.

TL;DR: Afraid that the movie will have too much charecter/relationship builing and the main narrative and conflict will suffer or vice versa, and that the considerable hype will create unrealistic vision of what the movie will be and affect how people judge the movie.

What do you guys think? Are you looking forward with giddy delight or are you apprehensive like me?
War Machine isn't going to be in the Avengers at all and the whole point of giving each character their own movie (besdies all that money of course) is to do they're character building beforehand. This movie is certainly going to be about how these characters interact with each other and i personally think that will be the most intriguing part of the film.
Why isn't War Machine going to be in the Avengers? War Machine was always my farovite Marvel hero, also Don Cheadle is one of my favorite actors.
 

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Eric Bana should play Banner. I might be the only one but I loved the 2003 Hulk movie and thought that he did an outstanding job.

Also, with a Marvel Comics writer and Joss Wedon directing, this will be made of win.
 

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The reason that I believe it can work is that, in my opinion, the most entertaining thing that the avengers do is beat on each other. They don't need many team building scenes because they frequently don't operate well as a team. The one thing this movie needs to do in order to please me, is include one everybody else versus the hulk fight.