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blankedboy

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Hubilub said:
You think that's bad? In Morrowind, I couldn't even sell the most expensive swords, not even for smaller prices.

Bulldongle!
I had to hold the "barter price down" button for about 5 minutes (no fucking joke) just to sell my extra Daedric Dagger.

IT'S A FUCKING DAGGER! IT DID PRACTICALLY NO DAMAGE!

OT, Elder Scrolls bartering prices and having no feet piss me off.
 

fanklok

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SonicWaffle said:
Ohhh man buying the house in Skingrad is actually the easiest way to raise your mercantile gather up about 50k then buy the house and all the furishings from the store that sells them leave for about a day or so then come back there will be some chic in the store that you can hire to be the servant in your house hire her then head home and talk to her, you now have access to an infinite supply of pies to sell and use in alchemy

PoisonUnagi said:
I had to hold the "barter price down" button for about 5 minutes (no fucking joke) just to sell my extra Daedric Dagger.

IT'S A FUCKING DAGGER! IT DID PRACTICALLY NO DAMAGE!

OT, Elder Scrolls bartering prices and having no feet piss me off.
It's Daedric so it's rare plus 100 in daggers and 100% got it's damage up to about 20 which may not seem like much but daggers are the second fastest weapons
 

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lack of peripheral vision in first person game, no friendly fire, automatic top off clips on reload weapons, regenerative health, any form of sniping without securing the weapon first, human players, integrated tutorial with story, death, most moral system, scripted AI, weird npc behavior (like standing in one spot forever, repeating responses), realistic graphic (uncanny valley effect), etc etc etc.
 

Vrex360

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For me, there is no better example then continuing to play Mass Effect 2 after the final mission. I mean for me at the time the final mission was awesome and huge, beginning with a tender scene in which Commander James Shepard gazes longlingly at the picture of Ashley and ending with a fiery climactic showdown in which the whole team/crew escape the exploding Collector Base and Shepard tells the Illusive man that he was ressurrected to save the galaxy... without the help of Cerberus.
Seriously, it was an amazing final mission and yet, when I decided to keep playing for the sake of getting everything done, I was distraught to find the universe feeling quite empty and there characters all kept mentioning plans to prepare the Normandy for the 'suicide mission'.
Clearly unaware that we had just completed said mission. I dunno, it just ruined the feeling for me.

Plus I made a note of going around and covertly rejecting all the other love interests so that there was no way the game would mess up and think I was pursuing a relationship, so now me and most of the NPC's had fuck all to talk about.

Finally I was given two Cerberus based missions to complete, and while in the first one I gave away valuable Cerberus info to the Alliance (I really hate Cerberus you see) in the second there was no way to complete it without helping Cerberus.
So I get an email from them thanking me, even though I have retired Cerberus, blown up their Collector station, told the Illusive man to go to hell and sent valuable detail to the Council, THEY STILL SAY THEY ARE LUCKY TO HAVE ME

I plan to replay it sometime over my holiday break on a different account, probably going to make all the same decisions save for one:
GET EVERYTHING I COULD EVER WANT DONE, DONE WELL IN ADVANCE OF THE FINAL MISSION!!
 

ShotgunSmoke

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Invisible limbs. Nothing puts you off like a protagonist who's a floating camera.

No hands on the steering wheel. *looking at you, Half Life*

Giant "RELOAD" letters on the screen.

Weapons instantly change, your character doesn't holster them.

Doors open by themselves, weapons instantly teleport to your inventory, the protagonist teleports to a car seat - lack of animations for actions. Far Cry 2 was perfect in this aspect, your hand opened a door, you didn't teleport between car seats, everything had an animation. FC2 aced the immersion.

Mute protagonists with no personality. *looking at the majority of FPS games*

Your character gets burned alive, who cares? He was just a floating camera with arms. When will developers learn? Mute characters don't add to the immersion. It just completely destroys the bond between player and the protagonist. It makes you care less about the story. And don't give me the "it's supposed to be you" bullshit. If I was supposed to be the protagonist, it wouldn't have a fixed name, sex, nationality and biography. You're supposed to experience a game like an interactive movie, not pretend that you're there. (That doesn't go for games like Fallout, where you can build your character from scratch.)
 

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fanklok said:
SonicWaffle said:
Ohhh man buying the house in Skingrad is actually the easiest way to raise your mercantile gather up about 50k then buy the house and all the furishings from the store that sells them leave for about a day or so then come back there will be some chic in the store that you can hire to be the servant in your house hire her then head home and talk to her, you now have access to an infinite supply of pies to sell and use in alchemy
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, at this point in the game (50+ hours, head of all guilds but Mages, about to start the main quest) I have absolutely no need of money. I'll remember it if I ever play through again, though!

fanklok said:
PoisonUnagi said:
I had to hold the "barter price down" button for about 5 minutes (no fucking joke) just to sell my extra Daedric Dagger.

IT'S A FUCKING DAGGER! IT DID PRACTICALLY NO DAMAGE!

OT, Elder Scrolls bartering prices and having no feet piss me off.
It's Daedric so it's rare plus 100 in daggers and 100% got it's damage up to about 20 which may not seem like much but daggers are the second fastest weapons
Daedric is rare? I come across so much Daedric crap I don't bother to loot it anymore, and I've not even started the main questline yet. Even bandits seem to have Daedric weapons!
 

SonicWaffle

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Vrex360 said:
- Stuff about Mass Effect 2 -
Dude, spoiler tags :-(

I'm going to be buying ME2 today and now I know half the stuff that happens!

I agree with your point though, I hate when characters can't keep up with events. I'm seeing a lot of it in Oblivion currently, people talking about things I've done - that they know I've done - and remarking "I wonder who could have done that?"

What gets really annoying is the "I hear there is a new Arena champion! I can't believe someone beat the Gray Prince!" that you get from asking about rumours. A lot of NPCs seem to say that after introducing themselves to you with "Hey, you're the new Arena champion! I saw your fight against the Gray Prince!"
 

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I remember in Silent Hill 2, I got yanked out the game in a certain place where you have to complete a puzzle, and you hear a completely out of place and not very scary scream.

In that second, I thought "Ah c'mon, this game has been so much scarier than other horror games till this point!"

Thankfully, it didn't persist.
 

fanklok

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SonicWaffle said:
There where other words here
Sorry did I say rare? I meant highest quality, plus the ones in Morrowind looked fucking awesome

speaking of people saying silly things when they saw you do something then remark on who it possibly could have been, go on a guard killing frenzy some times for fun when you kill one another will shout "Some ones been murdered." Then run off to get the guards.
 

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fanklok said:
SonicWaffle said:
There where other words here
Sorry did I say rare? I meant highest quality, plus the ones in Morrowind looked fucking awesome

speaking of people saying silly things when they saw you do something then remark on who it possibly could have been, go on a guard killing frenzy some times for fun when you kill one another will shout "Some ones been murdered." Then run off to get the guards.
They do look fucking awesome. I'm wearing a full set of Daedric armour, not because it works the best, but because I look like Sauron. Hell yes :-D
 

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When you watch a whole (X) unskippable cinematic just (A) to have them throw QTE's at the (B) end that you (X) must complete, despite having set (Y) the controller down to watch it, and when you (X) inevitably miss he first one, you (A) need to watch the whole damn thing (B) again.