Immortality, but it's you or them

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Sansha

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So I've been thinking about the concept of immortality, and I figure the energy required to keep a person alive forever would be immense, even if helped along by magic.

I thought, what better source of energy than the life-force of another person?

So, the point - say you meet a warlock who can give you eternal life. You won't be indestructible, but you will never age or get sick. You'll still need oxygen, blood, food and water, and not getting blown up to function, but you'll stay as young as you were at age 21 and you'll be completely immune to any and all afflictions, diseases, cancers and mutations.

But here's the price - the lives of five people who mean something to you, and you mean something to them in return. The spell requires the lives/souls of people you have a positive emotional connection to, specifically family and friends.

You have to round up the five and bring them to the warlock, so when it comes time for the spell, they know exactly what's happening. Their death is instant, and painless. Their corpses are completely vaporized, their lives snuffed in a heartbeat.
The spell only needs to be cast once to set you for eternity, and the strength of the connection doesn't matter - but they must be people you will miss and mourn.
Again, you must also matter to them. A mutual connection. You can't fake your feelings, and they can't fake theirs - otherwise the spell will fail. They're dead, you're mortal and the warlock is really unhappy for having his time wasted.

So, could you do it? Are there five important people in your life you would willingly sacrifice for your own immortality?



Personally, yes. I argue that the things you could do in the next few thousand years could make up for taking their lives, and that using old people for the spell would offset some of the negativity of taking their lives. I have three grandparents, two of which are relatively healthy for their age and one is on death's door. I'm not sure about the other two people I'd need.

Bonus: What about ten people and you get the whole package - immortality and indestructibility. Nothing can ever kill you. I'd be more liberal with who I choose to die then, because the possibilities for doing good in the world to make up for their deaths would be endless.

Bonus: What if they didn't know it was you, and the warlock could take their lives remotely? Would that change your mind?

Bonus: Negative energy, but is weaker - 20 and 50 people who you hate, and hate you. I'd find this harder to achieve really - I can't think of five people who fit this criteria.
 

camsha

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first and no this would be an evil, terrible thing that would haunt me for the rest of my life and i'm immortal so that would basically foverer
 

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Nope, I have no wish to be immortal, I can achieve everything I want to in this lifespan so this is a non-starter. Plus I'm a good person so I wouldn't be so selfish as to sacrifice people, let alone those I love, to gain a worthless few extra years.
 

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As far as the base scenario yes I'd do it. I'd mourn them but immortality means more to me then family anyway. Mother, Father, Older Brother, just need two others, I'd do in a heartbeat.

Bonus 1: Hard to find 10 people, but again I'd do it.
Bonus 2: I'd take the deal even quicker then a heartbeat.
Bonus 3: I have the same issue I don't think I could find 20-50 people who hate me. Now 20-50 random strangers...again I'd do it in a heartbeat.
 

MasterOfWorlds

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I would never gain immortality at the cost of another person's life, unless they gave it freely, like they knew that they were dying or something like that. I don't think I'd accept it even then though. I wouldn't want to live at the expense of another person's life unless they were trying to kill me or something.
 

Pappytech

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What in the... I don't mean to be rude, but quite frankly, this is downright terrifying. Yes, I think immortality would be great, but...

This is just evil. I'm sorry, but it is.
 

Matt'TheBean'Hooper

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I could never do that, I have no wish to be immortal especialy at the cost of my loved ones lives... but it wouldent just be their lives its also the lives of everyone i know or will know, for all eternity i would outlive everyone thats just to much death for me to take.
 

Tentickles

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First off read this: http://akorra.com/2010/08/18/top-10-reasons-you-don%E2%80%99t-want-to-be-immortal/

I would never choose immortality. I can hardly stand living the few years I have already, why would I want to live through hundreds, thousands.... millions of years of suffering, death, disease and seeing humans be cruel to each other.

My loved ones are what make life worth living. If I took your deal, life would be pointless.
 

mayney93

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depends, if it wasn't immortality but some other power i could say, i'd contemplate it, if you've ever seen code geass i'd take that route, i'd put the world right again and then make it fair, because the only way to solve the earth's problems is to unite it, and the people of earth will hate whoever unites it as it will have to be taken by force, imagine, if we pool our wealths of knowledge, we could be in space and in the cosmos in a matter of decades, all because of one b*stard that had the balls to do the right thing for the sake of humanity, they'd hate him for it, they'd remember him, but most of all, they can't deny that he was the man that set humanity straight instead of spending countless centuries fighting and slowly gaining land and power via political or military means

one man to bring them together and lead them out of the darkness

otherwise, i'd take the 50 i'd hate, i have a deep hatred for many a person, and i'm pretty sure i can choose 50 people the planet would be better off without
 

Jonluw

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Umm, no?
I don't want immortality in the first place, and there's no way I'd be enough of an uncaring prick to kill someone I have an emotional bond with lest it is necessary to serve some greater purpose.
 

rutger5000

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If a warlock would come to me and say: "I can make you immortal" I'll respond with: "Okay what will you get me for that".

So for me the question would be reversed.
Would you sacrifice yourself and become immortal if it would save the life of 5 people you love? And the answer would be no, I wouln't. I would only make that sacrifice for 90% of the entire world population no matter how cruwsome their deaths might be.

Am I alone in this, am I the only person who sees immortality as the gravest cursed conceivable.
I never understood how a person who claims he/she loves life wishes to be immortal. I really don't, and I don't even want to understand.

Heaven must be hell.
 

emeraldrafael

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No, not at the cost of my friends lives. I'm stealing theirs (however long it may be left) and all the experiences that would result from it.
 

Tentickles

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KingmanHighborn said:
As far as the base scenario yes I'd do it. I'd mourn them but immortality means more to me then family anyway. Mother, Father, Older Brother, just need two others, I'd do in a heartbeat.
Take it from someone who has lost their father: You would regret it for the rest of your immortal days.
You need to reset your priorities if you think living forever is more important than your family.
 

William MacKay

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thats not true immortality: if you were immortal you would heal when you die (except head wounds) and wouldnt need oxygen/sustenance. also, i would do it, but i would need to make these friends...
 

MikailCaboose

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Ultimately, I would never want Immortality. I'd pretty much go insane after a while, and just keep looking for some way to reverse the process...
 
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There's a Rooster Teeth short that's perfect for this thread:
http://roosterteeth.com/archive/?id=1371

I'd do it. I could probably even put a list together of 50 people I could happily eradicate.
 

LongAndShort

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Nope, not a chance. I don't want immortality that bad.
And if one of my friends or family tried to sacrifice me and four other people for it, I think I'd try and kill them while they're still mortal. Alternately if I found out a friend or family member did this to however many people, I'd try and kill them. If they're indestructible, well there are ways to make an immortal wish they weren't. But hey, I'm a bitter, vengeful person.