To illustrate the thread topic, I'll use that wacky ghost Beetlejuice (I know that's not how it's spelled in the movie but I don't care so bugger off). For a movie named after him, it struck me that Beetlejuice only gets three major scenes while getting relegated to the background between them. I understand that they can't have him turn into a snake or whatever else every scene but from my memory, Beetlejuice seems to drop off the face of the earth for good chunks of the movie.
Important Characters That Didn't Get to Do Much
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Cowboy Bebop movie. Poor Jet is one of the main characters of the series, and yet was reduced to little more than a glorified message courier in the film. Spike gets out into action, Ed is Ed, Faye was tracking the hacker. Jet went to the movies with his cop buddy and then hired a bunch of crop dusters.
I seem to remember Jet being the stay at home kinda guy in the series too. Always trimming his bonsai and whatnot.Soviet Heavy said:
What a coincidence that I watched this movie again last night since years. During which I was reminded why I haven't rewatched it in so long.
OT: Legion in Mass Effect 2. Not that there's any real plot to speak of in ME2, but you'd think the implications of a Geth ally would be worth exploring a bit more. Instead he gets introduced near the end of the damn game.
Ummm, maybe Carl in BlazBlue? He may not be THE most important character but I liked his character a LOT more than I thought I would. It's a shame how his role in everyone else's story modes is to occasionally pop up once, pick a fight, lose then be out of action entirely. It makes him look kind of pathetic really... Even if Nirvana keeps doing badass things on her own for him. His story mode is actually my favourite of the cast. Damn surprising.
Actually screw that, I want more Lambda. Even in her own story mode there is not enough Lambda to go around.
Oh and the damn Nurse in Katawa Shoujo. He only shows up a decent amount in Emi's route from what i've played and for a guy with a theme song as good as his that's a freaking crime.
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Actually screw that, I want more Lambda. Even in her own story mode there is not enough Lambda to go around.
Oh and the damn Nurse in Katawa Shoujo. He only shows up a decent amount in Emi's route from what i've played and for a guy with a theme song as good as his that's a freaking crime.
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Zepelle in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.
When he's training Jojo he's made out to be this complete badass and martial arts master. Then, the first fight he gets in with Dio he completely gets his ass handed to him, and then his next fight against Tarkis (or however the hell you spell that) he immediately dies and passes his life energy to Jojo. He ended up being next to useless in every fight he's actually in.
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Totoro in My Neighbour Totoro. He's in the damned title and he only makes three appearances with about ten minutes of screen time, yet he's the best character... EVAR, to grace anime... >_> ...
Totoro in My Neighbour Totoro. He's in the damned title and he only makes three appearances with about ten minutes of screen time, yet he's the best character... EVAR, to grace anime... >_> ...
Half the characters in Game of Thrones. They get introduced, given a small backstory chekovs-gun style, and never mentioned again. It's like George R R Martin was just testing his random name generator the whole time.
One of the problems with Freeglader (in the Edge Chronicles series) is when you look at it, none of the main characters did anything. Everything sort of happens and then ends almost entirely without involvement of the people in the book. And the person who connects to everyone else in the series and for whose lineage is an important plot thread, the best thing he does in the entire book is deliver a message
What's a Chekov's Gun? I've heard of it but I've never heard the definition.Tom_green_day said:
OT: I'm going to go with Fink and Songbird from Bioshcok Infinite
I just felt like Fink would be Bioshock Infinite's equivalent to Sander Cohen, a guy who leads you through a certain area whom you get to know. Instead he's just a generic evil businessman, and is killed behind a glass window by Fitzroy. You have one fight with a bunch of regular enemies with him talking to you, but you never really get to meet him or see what he does. And as for Songbird, the trailers and promotional stuff were hyping him to be a massive part of the game, as big as Atlus or Ryan from Bioshock. Instead we just get a few scripted sequences, no boss-fight or any sort of big in-game encounter with him (massive missed opportunity) and they essentially make him a destroy button at the end. His death meant nothing to me, I was more interested in seeing how accurate they had made Rapture.
Sakura from naruto,for crying out loud she's supposed to be the lead heroine in the show yet the only important thing she's done is help kill sasori of the red sand and that's it T_T
If a gun is on a wall, it must go off at some point. Basically everything in fiction must have a reason for existence. A Chekhov's Gun is an element that never realises its potential or is unutilised.ToastiestZombie said:
The problem was that he was a professional ACTOR, not VOICE-ACTOR. Actors should leave voice-acting to the professionals. (It was Matthew Perry, AKA Chandler from Friends FYI).Roads said:
ToastiestZombie said:
That's almost certainly because Ken Levine has a big problem with consistency between drafts. The plot of Infinite (and the original Bioshock for that matter) was revised over and over during development, which is why in the finished product most characters seem underdeveloped or irrelevant. Don't know if you ever saw the trailers, but basically none of the trailers apart from the most recent one actually represents the game that was released, with Elizabeth having completely different abilities, an important character named Saltonstall who never appeared in the game and a greater emphasis on the war with the Vox.
It's also why the multiverse stuff and ending was so confusing. Elizabeth was telekinetic well into development; the entire concept of the multiverse wasn't a part of the story until relatively late in development.
Which was lame as hell. Sasori was built up as being pretty awesome. He killed the strongest Kazekage and was stated to be stronger than Deidara and at least on par with Orochimaru... and then? Sakura and granny chiyo kick his ass :/knight steel said:
What the hell? That makes everyone involved look bad, The third Kazekage, The sand Village, Deidara, Orochimaru etc...
...but aside from that, yeah sakura is pretty worthless. She's essentially the love interest, Tsundere, and healer woman tropes and that's about it.
OT: I always thought saria in Ocarina of Time was a weird character. Here's this person that is supposedly Link's best friend growing up, and you get to speak with her outside of Saria's song help like... five times? The one where she tells you to go to the great Deku tree, the one where she's in her house before you've beaten the great deku tree, when she's gives you the fairy ocarina, the one where she teaches you saria's song, and the one where she's already dead and awakened as a sage. That's it, and none of those are even in depth conversations anyway. Talon has more character than Saria, and he's a minor side character.
I know OoT doesn't have the greatest characterization to begin with, but still.
Well I wouldn't go that far,I mean Sasori only lost because Granny chiyo knew his weakness and even then if she hadn't had a partner to help act upon them she would still be dead-and even with a partner if that partner didn't have the antidote they still would have lost,and even them Sasori lost on purpose because of his reaction to the puppet's of his parent if it hadn't been them he would have won in the end >_<T0ad 0f Truth said:
Yeah, she doesn't seem to get to do much now except heal people. Of course, this hopefully means that Hinata will be taking over as the lead female because she's been getting a lot of time in the current manga. She's certainly done, and doing, more for Naruto than Sakura has. Yay!knight steel said:
Anyway, I'm going with Mara Jade--AFTER she gets married. Before she gets married, she goes on adventures and is on par with Luke in terms of action, missions, and combat. Then, she gets married, and...gets sick. She spends most of the Vong War being sick and fighting off a virus. Then, she spends her time taking care of her baby. And then, when she finally starts to show what she used to be like in the Legacy of the Force series, THAT happens.
It's just something that has sort of bothered me for a while. It seemed like, after she get got married, writers really didn't know what to do with her so they stuff her into the 'housewife who supports from the sidelines' role, although it didn't fit her too well.
I understand the reasoning behind it, but it was still a lame ending to one of the cooler Akatsuki members. The only one I thought was worse was Kisame's. Sure I get WHY they went down the way they did, it just lacked the gravitas and coolness of the others. Pein and Itachi, for example, lost, but they lost in one hell of a cool way, with Itachi technically even "winning" the fight.knight steel said:
One could argue it's aimed at creating a more believable world. Think about you, every person you meet has years of experiences, a life, hopes, dreams, goals. That gas station attendant had parents, who were they? Who were their friends? What does he or she do for fun?Tom_green_day said:
Having random characters who have names and back stories, and then turn out to be absolute nobodies, is a reflection on reality.
Exactly I mean Sakura manipulated, hurt and insulted Naruto while Hinata has supported Naruto and stood by him,I mean just look up Chapter 615 to see how far and how important Hinata has become,now if only Naruto would reply to her love confession >_<Sniper Team 4 said:
Yeah your right *sigh* and don't even get me started one on how:T0ad 0f Truth said:
easily sasori lost in the ambush squad battle-and how he gave in to his emotion because of talk-no jutsu