In defense of using game reviews as purchasing aids

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For every mention on a forum of a particular game review I often see a common response being "I don't read reviews, their scores don't matter, I could care less what someone else thinks of it." Which at face value seems to make sense, but I think often ignores the hidden value that game, or really any media review ultimately offers, which is a (usually) non-endorsed synopsis of that media's content.

Bias, is inescapable, whether we're talking the often hyperbolic back-of-the-box descriptions, the oft-as-not pre-rendered trailers and the reviews themselves, all bound to the same convention of "we have an agenda" that ultimately does little to sway our final reception towards the experienced product.

Reviews seem to be marketed themselves as endorsements, which undoubtedly some, if not many gamers will accept unquestioningly as whether a product is worth their time. For the rest, this biased endorsement, often tidily summed up as a review score, has little to no value, yet the context of the review itself can often present a much clearer analysis of the game's content than the hyperbolic ad-speak that the game developer will try to present to entice potential buyers.

I've often gone on to buy games I read details about in a review that rated it very poorly and enjoyed the game immensely and by contrast avoided buying a game quite heartily recommended. The key lies in knowing what you like and dislike and seeking out the details.

Is it a turn based RPG or an action hack n slash?
Does it have a challenging endgame or is it very casual difficulty?
Is it properly designed for this system or is it a poorly done port?
Does it focus on story or open ended gameplay?
Is it really similar to this other game it looks like?
How do the mechanics of this system work?

There's so many potential questions that a good review can answer when you ignore the bias of their suggestion. I personally find the value of a good reviewer to not lie in how closely their opinions align with my own but in how well they present a clear picture of what to expect from the gameplay. Maybe they hate turn based RPGs with tile-based movements and call them slow, boring, outdated mechanics, but I personally love them and get a lot of nostalgia from it. The bottom line is we all have different tastes for how we will receive a certain game's content, but a review that details the content, be it gameplay, story, audio, or visual, we can make informed choices based off our own preferences.

So what do you think? Do you feel game reviews are useful aids in making purchasing decisions for games, regardless of reviewer bias?
 

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The thing about reviews, is if the reviewer doesnt share your views, they wont be good for you. Not that Im not going to buy them anyways, but if I wanted to read a review for a Dynasty Warriors game, I wouldnt trust say, Adam Sessler, cause I know he hates the series, and most other reviewers seem to copy paste, ignoring the actual game. But if Jim Sterling reviewed it, Id trust it cause he shares alot of my views on the series, and hed tell me what I want to know.

Personally, I mostly use fan reviews and compare a bunch of positive to negative, and see what is consistent across them, if I use reviews.
 

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So what do you think? Do you feel game reviews are useful aids in making purchasing decisions for games, regardless of reviewer bias?
Yeah, I do. My usual tactic is to get a variety of opinions, for instance by going on Metacritic and just read 1-3 negative and 1-3 positive reviews. To me, it's not about validation, it's about being able to get enough information and opinions to figure out if it's a game I might like. And I don't buy games just because they have a 90+ on Metacritic, because I know there's a good chance those games - no matter how great they are - just aren't my thing. And that's fine.

I also use reviews in the hopes of discovering interesting new titles. I probably won't buy it after reading just one review, but if the first one is positive, it's likely I'll read more reviews and buy the game (eventually).

The good thing about good professional is that they offer things most regular user reviews don't. Many user reviews come down to something like 'story is good, gameplay is fun, graphics look good' - but they can't explain why something is good or fun, making their opinion rather useless. Good critics know their opinions are subjective and serve as a tool for their readers to inform themselves.

As for preferences - it's fine for reviewers to have these because readers have preferences of their own. For instance, nobody is born having played several hundreds of point & click adventure games and any random point & click adventure game could be someone's first venture into the genre. While expert opinions are valuable, I think it's interesting and fun to see reviewers write about a game from that perspective. And it's great if the title leaves a good impression on that reviewer. It makes me happy to see people discovering new favourites. On the other hand, if they didn't like it, that's fine too, as long as they can explain why. The opinion might not be useful to me, what with point & click adventures being my third favourite game genre, but it may be of use to someone else, someone who's never played one of those games before.
 

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Reviews are useless regardless of the medium.

It's a coinflip as to whether or not the reviewer had any prior interest in the movie/book. And they're not special in any way. They don't have "professional opinions". They're just regular schmuks with regular views. It takes a special kind of ignorance to parrot someone else's opinion instead of formulating your own.

Especially for games. Games are unique in that you can experience games via Lrts Plays and Twitch streams, without spoiling the game for yourself. So with this far superior extra layer. Why should reviews be a factor?

It's generally beneficial to be pretty informative before having an opinion. I mean, fair enough if you don't pay for a product because you've no interest, but no one should be letting reviews influence their purchase.
Reviews are so much better than let's plays, though. I can read a review in five minutes and get an opinion on the entire game. Am I gonna watch an entire let's play to find out if a game is good? what if a game has a fantastic first level but the rest of the game sucks?
If I had the money to buy every game that came out or the time to watch someone play every game I wanted to buy for five hours then yeah maybe I wouldn't need reviews, but for me they are a huge part of my video game purchasing process
 

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It's absolutely baffling to me that someone has to defend using a resource to research if a $60 game is a good investment but here we are I guess...

I use them because it's the quickest and spoiler freeest way to see if a video game is worth money. Look at a handful of reviews, see if everyone aligns and what they think. If they align, safe bet. If they don't, read a few more and figure out why X gave it a 7 and Y gave it a 9 and determine if I feel like the problems 7 had would be problems that would bug me. If I'm still interested even with trashy reviews, I'll just let the price drop and then pull the trigger on it.

Rinse and repeat. Hasn't bitten me yet.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
It's absolutely baffling to me that someone has to defend using a resource to research if a $60 is a good investment but here we are I guess...
Ah, well, there will always be people with unrealistic/downright dumb expectations ('reviews need to be 100% objective!'), a lack of self-confidence ('you need to validate my opinion/purchase!') and/or an overinflated ego ('my opinion is the only right opinion!'). They just happen to thrive in this current climate.

BTW holy shit, I just noticed your avatar blinks!
 

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Reviews are filled with information. Ignore information at your own risk. What a critic THINKS is not important, but providing information to allow YOU to think and decide according to your own values IS. This is why nearly every game I've ever purchased is entertaining to me. I didn't decide because of a score. I decided because I scored it well. Ya follow?
 

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Saelune said:
The thing about reviews, is if the reviewer doesnt share your views, they wont be good for you. Not that Im not going to buy them anyways, but if I wanted to read a review for a Dynasty Warriors game, I wouldnt trust say, Adam Sessler, cause I know he hates the series, and most other reviewers seem to copy paste, ignoring the actual game. But if Jim Sterling reviewed it, Id trust it cause he shares alot of my views on the series, and hed tell me what I want to know.

Personally, I mostly use fan reviews and compare a bunch of positive to negative, and see what is consistent across them, if I use reviews.
This is how I operate. Even back then, when I didn't like Dynasty Warriors, I knew most reviewers were full of shit and were copying from each other. Because it got me thinking, if the games are so "bad" or broken, then why is the series and its other spin-offs are selling so well and seeing new installments? The reason being that, usually, though not all the time, gamers know a good game when they see one. Or at the very least, know it's not as good or bad as professional viewers tend to make them a lot of the time.

I only trust mostly user reviews (well thought out critical one, not those high or low rankings with one or two sentences) and individuals on YouTube such as ACG, Jim Sterling (back then I had some problems with him when he was on Destructoid), GGman, Shintai, and others. "Professional" sites like GameSpot, IGN, and Game Informer are so full of shit now that there is literally no point in looking at them other than to see what crap they pull off next. Whatever professional I do trust are either gone now and only a few left. Even GameTrailersBetween 2012-2015, they seemed to get more snobbish and nit picky over the years. Not mention, hypocritical in some cases. For evidence, see their Killer Is Dead review, and compare that to their reviews of GTA V, any of the God of War games, and DmC: Devil may Cry were guilty of this during its later years before they shut themselves down. I know they're Easy Allies now, but I only keep them around for some nostalgia more than anything else. Especially when I am hearing Ben's voice, it can be comfortable and relaxing even when I disagree with them.
 

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Canadamus Prime said:
What else would you use them for?
I can be interested in other peoples opinions about games I have already played or about games I have no intention of playing myself. Maybe the saw things I didn't.

aozgolo said:
For every mention on a forum of a particular game review I often see a common response being "I don't read reviews, their scores don't matter, I could care less what someone else thinks of it." Which at face value seems to make sense, but I think often ignores the hidden value that game, or really any media review ultimately offers, which is a (usually) non-endorsed synopsis of that media's content.
I think reviews can be interesting and can be used to provide information but they have to be used with care. Just buying or not buying a game because a review said so is kinda dumb. Getting all upset about a review that doesn't match your expectations or is bad or whatever also deserves a response that firmly relativises the importance of reviews. Though goin 'I never read reviews, fuck them' seems like the other extreme. (never reading reviews is your own choice of course, but pretending they have no value at all seems extreme to me)
 

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We've gone over my opinion of reviews heavily. I think in regards to Triple A games and anything mainstream they are obsolete. Why take in a review when you can take in a lets play and make your own judgement? But we've been over this.

I have said, reviews are good for things you might not of heard about, particularly indytitles, and when it comes to that consider Saelune's post here alone:

Saelune said:
The thing about reviews, is if the reviewer doesnt share your views, they wont be good for you. Not that Im not going to buy them anyways, but if I wanted to read a review for a Dynasty Warriors game, I wouldnt trust say, Adam Sessler, cause I know he hates the series, and most other reviewers seem to copy paste, ignoring the actual game. But if Jim Sterling reviewed it, Id trust it cause he shares alot of my views on the series, and hed tell me what I want to know.

Personally, I mostly use fan reviews and compare a bunch of positive to negative, and see what is consistent across them, if I use reviews.
This is very accurate. Yahtzee is one of the few people that when it came to titles I hadn't heard about.... Hotline Miami... papers please... ftl... it was his good review that got me to try them. I've found my taste in games matches very well with his tastes, so if he says a game is good it automatically goes on my "To Buy" list.
 

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The written review has 2 advantages over the video review. If you can read fast, you can do a whole bunch in the time the video ran. A written review can also be spoiler free, even for a puzzle game or an AG.
Main advantage of the vid is there's no explaining fast gameplay like just seeing it in action.
 

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DudeistBelieve said:
We've gone over my opinion of reviews heavily. I think in regards to Triple A games and anything mainstream they are obsolete. Why take in a review when you can take in a lets play and make your own judgement? But we've been over this.
Actually, we haven't, as you've never even tried to refute points others have raised.
 

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NPC009 said:
DudeistBelieve said:
We've gone over my opinion of reviews heavily. I think in regards to Triple A games and anything mainstream they are obsolete. Why take in a review when you can take in a lets play and make your own judgement? But we've been over this.
Actually, we haven't, as you've never even tried to refute points others have raised.

I was open to being put in my place for two whole pages before I lost interest, plus some people were frankly being rather dicks about the whole thing so at that point? Fuck it. Boring conversation anyway.
 

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tippy2k2 said:
It's absolutely baffling to me that someone has to defend using a resource to research if a $60 game is a good investment but here we are I guess...

I use them because it's the quickest and spoiler freeest way to see if a video game is worth money. Look at a handful of reviews, see if everyone aligns and what they think. If they align, safe bet. If they don't, read a few more and figure out why X gave it a 7 and Y gave it a 9 and determine if I feel like the problems 7 had would be problems that would bug me. If I'm still interested even with trashy reviews, I'll just let the price drop and then pull the trigger on it.

Rinse and repeat. Hasn't bitten me yet.
/sarcasm

Dammit tippy stop making sense. This kind of rational is no longer welcome here. /End sarcasm

I came here to say this. I mean how is this a hard concept to graps?

Come on Escapsists, you are better than this.
 

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inu-kun said:
4) It might look "shiny" but in essence is not as good, for example DA: Inquisition looks pretty cool... But the gameplay is shit and gets extremely repetitive after several hours, which you'll know in a review but not from gameplay footage.
Eh? Wasn't DA:I and its core combat quite well received, critically? I'm still working on the theory that BioWare or EA drugged 'reviewers' whilst playing... because for the life of me I can't understand why some saw content as opposed to 'content'. Kill Screen pretty much provided the most intelligent and truly critical/analytical written review, and that's an incredibly niche site.

5) You can get over some of this with watching much more gameplay footage... but then it's a waste of time, why watch 2 hours of gameplay when you can read 10 reviews in 20 minutes?
Maybe because you could read a hundred and one reviews and still never, ever get a real impression of how the game 'feels' and flows, moment to moment?

A reviewer can try to give their thoughts on one system or element, yet you can never tell how accurate or insightful they're being. With an LP you can see precisely how the system or element actually plays out. Why waste time on written review upon written review trying to cohere a mental picture, when you can just see the game for yourself?

And so to answer the actual question:
aozgolo said:
So what do you think? Do you feel game reviews are useful aids in making purchasing decisions for games, regardless of reviewer bias?
I'd say all forms of reaction and critique have their place, and it's a mistake - and frankly not very realistic or practical - to just consider the merits/drawbacks of one form. But I think the mainstream gaming press is as ignorantly meaningless as ever, which makes review sources worth a damn hard to find. LP's and streams, however, are far more immediate and quite literally revealing. 'Show, don't tell' us usually said about films, but I feel it's perhaps even more useful for gaming.

So personally I trust a combination of my own eyes/ears with LP's, word of mouth from people I know, and maybe one or two formal review bodies if they decide to cover a certain game. I do loathe the culture of review scores, though.