In what games do we torture people?

[RDubayoo]

The definition of the word "torture" as it is currently does encompass violent interrogation as a form of torture. In my not motherfucking humble at all opinion, the definition is wrong, and violent interrogation is not a form of torture.

Now quit fucking quoting me with attempts to change my opinion with your bullshit.

your basically saying electrocuting someone to get information is violent interrogation but electrocuting someone for kicks is torture.

Also is it beyond you to be able to have a civil debate or do you have the same debating skills as a doped up drug addict who has just been arrested by the cops?

Precisely. Thank you for understanding what I was trying to say.

I'm not a very "civil" person when it comes to debates (or arguments) over anything, really. I prefer to get my point across as aggressively as possible. Unless of course I'm in my very rare zen-ish state of mind.

Okay, let's say it's a female prisoner and she's sexually assaulted as part of her interrogation. Do we still get to call it rape, or is it just interrogation?

See, I think the point you're missing, Mr. Witchwood, is that torture is, potentially, a component of interrogation, and they are not mutually exclusive. I mean, it's like saying that if you build a house with bricks, it's a brick, and not a house. Or maybe you say it's a house, but you refuse to acknowledge it was made with bricks. See? It's ridiculous.

Is Sam Fisher torturing people in Splinter Cell: Conviction during the interrogation scenes? Damn right he is. But the real issue is that he has no other choice if he wants to avert a catastrophe. He's dealing with some really nasty people in that game, and simply asking them nicely how he can foil their plot just isn't going to cut it. Trying to redefine torture and interrogation in an attempt to avoid this moral dilemma does a disservice to his character, I think.

 

[Lilani]

I quite enjoyed torturing guests in Roller Coaster Tycoon. I'd trap them in circular pathways with all drink stands and no bathrooms. Then when they're all unhappy and have to pee, I'd make a water patch that gets bigger and bigger, eventually drowning them all >

Either that, or I'd build a roller coaster that flies off into nothingness, killing everyone. Fun times, fun times.

 

[Vault101]

Probably been mentioned before but

that interrogation part in Mass effect 2, usually I can't get the dialoge to work so I just smack him around

That part in fallout new vegas where you can beat up a leagonarie (to be honest he is a slimy basterd and deserves it)

though if you have high enough intelligence you can pull a mind screw on him and convince him your part of the leagion and here to punish his incopitence, causing him to spill his secret...its much more satisfying than beating him up!

 

[k-ossuburb]

Ultima 5.

Seriously, don't let Lord Blackthorn catch you.

 

[TheYellowCellPhone]

In World at War, when you were a Russian assaulting Berlin, you had an option of A: Killing surrendered Germans by shooting or 'nading them or B: torturing them with a Molotov.

And you HAD to do it.

 

[ShadowsofHope]

Too Human and Two Worlds. The game themselves are torture for the player.

..Oh. You meant in the game "torture"!

Call of Duty. But then again, Call of Duty is.. well, Call of Duty.

 

[Lem0nade Inlay]

Black Ops

 

[astrav1]

Manhunt ladies and gentlemen.

 

[inFAMOUSCowZ]

Lots of games do it, But the only graphical one are Black ops,and Splinter cell. You put a guys face in paper shredder, and a stove top.

 

[War Pony]

I can immediately recall two torture quests in WoW's Wrath of the Lich King content. In one example you're being an asshole because you kind of have to in order to progress in the area, and in the other example you're being used as a loophole for a group of short-sighted assholes to use to save one of their own.

The first example takes place in that totally hilarious death knight starting area where you're given a pair of "Persuaders" (white-hot pokers) to slap around Scarlet Crusaders, the local "If you're not one of us then you're DEAD!" group. Some of them are just asking for it with comments along the lines of, "Look out! There's a bee loose and it's on a stinging rampage!" and "ARGH! That was my last good tabard!"

The second example is being sent out to capture a live local enemy, then told right after that they need info and to slap the guy you just captured (now chained to a chair in the nearby tower) in the head with a fancy rod. You have to do this five times, and after each hit he whispers to you, acting all tough guy at first then pissing himself and asking you to stop before giving up the information. This info is needed to save an archmage or something. I don't know her significance other than when you finish saving her, you get a free ride to Coldarra.

And for some reason the Kirin Tor already have the torture-sticks made even though they...can't use them because their code says so. Flavor text! "Use: Inflicts incredible pain to target, but does no permanent damage."

For extra amusement brutality, you can get another stick off another mage and go back and keep torturing the prisoner after you're done with the quest.

 

[runedeadthA]

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/VideoGameCrueltyPotential

Mwhahahahaa! TO some people ^ that is torture.

OT: Blackops is a no brainer. Games with tazers and non-lethal weapons let you hurt without killing (in siphon filter the tazer set people on fire if used enough > )

 

[Numb1lp]

The SIMS!

Ooh, good one. You potentially can in GTA games, or any game for that matter.

 

[Kud]

Playing RDR free roam on Friendly mode, then chasing people all across the map running them over with your horse and shooting their horse whenever they call it.

Fire bottles and dynomite when nessissary.

That is the ultimate torture because they can't even kill you, they just have to quit.

 

[merf1350]

I happen to think it can be nearly any game, where you can wound, especially multiple times instead of kill.

I did this a lot with various GTA games, shoot feet, hands, knees, etc.
I know I'm not the only one either. Anyone who has ever used a sniper rifle to shoot a leg then laughed while the npc limped away in pain before hitting them again has done this in a video game and its a lot easier to accomplish than most realize.

Where this is a problem is only when it serves as a catalyst for someone to copy the behavior, but then the reality is if you copy said behavior from a game you were mentally unhinged to begin with. A point that many anti-gamers seem to overlook.

 

[Calbeck]

Desert Bus?

 

[PinochetIsMyBro]

In Mass Effect 2, you can beat a prisoner strapped to a chair for nothing other than giggles.

In Dragon Age 1, you can let your cousin get raped(technically YOU aren't torturing her, but you're letting it happen) for a sweet, sweet 50 or so gold pieces.

 

[GodofCider]

Google "Catcher in the Rye" and have your mind blown. Every medium of expression has been lambasted by critics and idiots.

I'm aware of the odd critic out; but my point still stands as it's nothing by contrast. One doesn't find 'heated' controversy on news, outlets over literature and violence.

 

[Varanfan9]

Just to say you have to do the torture in order to proceed. It can't be you just doing it for fun it has to be required.

 

[Ftaghn To You Too]

Argument about semantics of torture

...Bit Orwellian there, aren't you? Torture=causing pain on purpose. As much as I loathe to say it, you are wrong and the rest of us are right.

 

[Shoggoth2588]

The Punisher game from a few years back has you interrogating people rather violently. But that usually consists of just banging someones head against a wall, it only gets ultra-violent when you kill them.

You beat me too it. That was on the PS2 and Xbox and, I need to find that game. It wasn't bad for a 3rd person action game. Too bad it was censored though. I'm sure if it was updated, remade or, if a sequel was brought out for current gen consoles it would be far more violent...well...maybe...it's hard to judge. Left 4 Dead 2 showed us how to rip a zombie's back out. The Punisher showed up (through a gritty blur) what it would look like to jam a human beings face, eye-first, into a drill bit...then toss his out of a window.