Inception Question ( SPOILERS)

[Thurmer]

I've been wondering about this and haven't really seen anything as of yet thats brought it up but here it goes:

Cobbs spinning top, I think he said it was Mals(Moles) token originally but Arthur says to Ariadne that it loses meaning if someone else touches and holds it so therefore couldn't the spinning of the top, ie it not falling over, just be a construct in Cobbs own mind since it wasn't his own token?

edit: sorry i didnt really write it out properly as my head is still confused. my friend said the top falls over so you can see that the parts where they are making their team is real in comparison to the parts where they are inside someone elses dream where the top keeps spinning.

so what im trying to get at is could the entire operation of getting the team together and going into peoples dreams could be a dream cobb is having where his mind is trying to convince him what is a dream and what is real.

 

[CoverYourHead]

It's possible, yes. That's part of the whole question at the end of the movie "Is Cobb actually still dreaming? Is his whole reality just another layer of dream?"

 

[delet]

First, label this as spoilers. Second, there are so many damn threads about this already! Go to one of those...

And third, it's really up to you whether or not you think it's a dream or not. I think it is, but I should get to seeing the movie a second time to catch everything I missed.

 

[Thurmer]

It's possible, yes. That's part of the whole question at the end of the movie "Is Cobb actually still dreaming? Is his whole reality just another layer of dream?"

yea but not really my point, sorry i didnt really write it out properly as my head is still confused. my friend said the top falls over so you can see that the parts where they are making their team is real in comparison to the parts where they are inside someone elses dream where the top keeps spinning.

so what im trying to get at is could the entire operation of getting the team together and going into peoples dreams could be a dream cobb is having where his mind is trying to convince him what is a dream and what is real.

im confused

 

[CoverYourHead]

It's possible, yes. That's part of the whole question at the end of the movie "Is Cobb actually still dreaming? Is his whole reality just another layer of dream?"

yea but not really my point, sorry i didnt really write it out properly as my head is still confused. my friend said the top falls over so you can see that the parts where they are making their team is real in comparison to the parts where they are inside someone elses dream where the top keeps spinning.

so what im trying to get at is could the entire operation of getting the team together and going into peoples dreams could be a dream cobb is having where his mind is trying to convince him what is a dream and what is real.

im confused

Yep, sorry if I was unclear, but that's what I meant. The ending of the movie is meant to make you wonder if the entire movie has just been inside Cobb's dream. As in: Is Mal actually right the entire time and Cobb is still dreaming.

 

[TheSkaAssassin]

saw his kids faces = not a dream

/thread

 

[Thurmer]

saw his kids faces = not a dream

/thread

youre over simplifying as if it was a another layer within a dream he could finally get over the mental roadblock of not being able to see their faces and just made it up in his mind. also if he really wanted to see his kids in the "reality" he could of always asked Miles(the kids guardian and his mentor) to send him pictures of them. If that was reality you'd think he would of thought of something as simple as that.

 

[AWDMANOUT]

Wait, I thought near the end the top was beginning to fall over? Was that just me?

And OP, you're reading way too much into it, man.

 

[Thurmer]

Wait, I thought near the end the top was beginning to fall over? Was that just me?

And OP, you're reading way too much into it, man.

but its interesting!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[TheComedown]

Wait, I thought near the end the top was beginning to fall over? Was that just me?

And OP, you're reading way too much into it, man.

It was beginning to but its not uncommon for a spinning top to jitter like that before finding its balance again.

But agreed OP is reading way to far into it, yes it was a thinking movie, but it was all pretty clearly spelled out, there is no need to be digging.

The only question left about this movie was the question about whether or not he had made it out altogether, and in another thread it was mentioned that cob has a wedding ring on when in dreamland and not when in reality.. and apparently he isn't wearing it in the last scene.

 

[SL33TBL1ND]

It's possible, yes. That's part of the whole question at the end of the movie "Is Cobb actually still dreaming? Is his whole reality just another layer of dream?"

yea but not really my point, sorry i didnt really write it out properly as my head is still confused. my friend said the top falls over so you can see that the parts where they are making their team is real in comparison to the parts where they are inside someone elses dream where the top keeps spinning.

so what im trying to get at is could the entire operation of getting the team together and going into peoples dreams could be a dream cobb is having where his mind is trying to convince him what is a dream and what is real.

im confused

Yeah, it could be. That's what the point of the movie was.

 

[Enkidu88]

In the last scene though his kids are in the exact same position they were in when they appeared at every other moment in the movie. You telling me that the kids have just been sitting there like that for years? And why didn't they age? Time is very vague in this movie never really showing the passage of time in any kind of manner that is coherent, which also makes me think the whole thing was a dream.

Still the end was just too damn nice and tidy, I'm pretty sure Moll was right. Cobb was the one still dreaming.

 

[Sproingy]

In the last scene though his kids are in the exact same position they were in when they appeared at every other moment in the movie. You telling me that the kids have just been sitting there like that for years? And why didn't they age? Time is very vague in this movie never really showing the passage of time in any kind of manner that is coherent, which also makes me think the whole thing was a dream.

Still the end was just too damn nice and tidy, I'm pretty sure Moll was right. Cobb was the one still dreaming.

Exactly what I thought...

 

[Thurmer]

Wait, I thought near the end the top was beginning to fall over? Was that just me?

And OP, you're reading way too much into it, man.

It was beginning to but its not uncommon for a spinning top to jitter like that before finding its balance again.

But agreed OP is reading way to far into it, yes it was a thinking movie, but it was all pretty clearly spelled out, there is no need to be digging.

The only question left about this movie was the question about whether or not he had made it out altogether, and in another thread it was mentioned that cob has a wedding ring on when in dreamland and not when in reality.. and apparently he isn't wearing it in the last scene.

wedding ring also is way to minor, in the dream he believes hes overcome the shade of mal and as such takes off his weddingband. to me that doesn't mean a thing except one can have personal revelations in the dream world.

 

[TheComedown]

-snip-

wedding ring also is way to minor, in the dream he believes hes overcome the shade of mal and as such takes off his weddingband. to me that doesn't mean a thing except one can have personal revelations in the dream world.

Ah well like I said I saw it offered in another thread, I actually didn't notice it when I saw the film.

Anyway we all know Cobb likes to break his own rules, and the fact that his wife is dead may make it ok as he is the only living person that knows that token.

 

[PatientGrasshopper]

I've been wondering about this and haven't really seen anything as of yet thats brought it up but here it goes:

Cobbs spinning top, I think he said it was Mals(Moles) token originally but Arthur says to Ariadne that it loses meaning if someone else touches and holds it so therefore couldn't the spinning of the top, ie it not falling over, just be a construct in Cobbs own mind since it wasn't his own token?

edit: sorry i didnt really write it out properly as my head is still confused. my friend said the top falls over so you can see that the parts where they are making their team is real in comparison to the parts where they are inside someone elses dream where the top keeps spinning.

so what im trying to get at is could the entire operation of getting the team together and going into peoples dreams could be a dream cobb is having where his mind is trying to convince him what is a dream and what is real.

I actually thought of the possibility that the entire movie could be a dream. I mean at the end it is debatable;e weather he is still dreaming or not. On the one hand he sees his children's faces, but then they are the same age, and we never know for sure if the top does end up falling over. When his wife was about to jump I was wondering at that point if she could in fact be right.
I have often pondered the question "What if the world we think is real is really a dream?" of course I don't believe it but just wonder it for curiosity sake.

 

[S.R.S.]

Can't wait to see his face when he comes back inside and sees the top still spinning or not. The totem loses its ability to tell real world from dream world because it originally belonged to mal and cobb touched it. Cobb is in limbo but believes he is in the real world because the totem has an opposite effect without him knowing. We all called it at the start didn't we? "The whole movie is a dream!" The people in my row agreed with me when I shouted it out but none of us wanted to believe it. That movie has changed everything, it made TDK look terrible, just another comic book movie.

 

[yoyo13rom]

so what im trying to get at is could the entire operation of getting the team together and going into peoples dreams could be a dream cobb is having where his mind is trying to convince him what is a dream and what is real.

I'm just sad that people often don't consider this possibility.(this is the cooler ending guys!)

Spoiler

Oh, and am I the only one who thinks that when Cobb told Mal "we did grow old"(the old couple is shown) we glimpse at the real world(he and Mal were old in reality and young in their dreams, from which Mal escaped by "killing" herself)?