Incest?

[Loop Stricken]

Oh look, people playing the genetics card.

Two random unrelated people having children have a roughly 2% chance of that child being born with a genetic abnormality.
Even if two closely-related people having children doubles that risk, that's still only 4%.
The only real risk with inbreeding is it increases the chance for any inherent medical condition to be expressed in the children. Obviously sustained inbreeding would take its toll eventually, but it's emphatically not the case that two cousins happen to shack up and it's suddenly the retard mutant apocalypse.

Anyway, as long as everyone involved consents, I don't care. I don't care so much that I had to type all of this. I just had to.

 

[DeltaEdge]

I don't like it because I think that it is gross because I was raised that way. Still, being a Christian, I don't see anything wrong with being with someone who is your cousin or further in terms of blood relation. Just close siblings like your mom, dad, brothers or sister, and half brothers/sisters. I can't in all honesty say "No, you can never do this with your mom, dad, brother, or sister! I make all the rules and decide what is right and wrong" I only hold myself to my personal standards, not others. But still, I just can't imagine having sex with your own mom. You slid out of that hole that you are putting your wang in however many years ago that you were born, and plus she is waaay older than you.

 

[Yopaz]

Well incest increases chance of kids born with defects, though not as much as some think, yet not as little as others do. I heard about a couple who were siblings and half their kids were having problem with brain development.

Consensual sex even without the chance of pregnancy is creepy to me, but people have weird fetishes out there and I don't think incest is the weirdest one.

 

[babinro]

I have no problem with it until children enter the picture as I understand it leads to increased health risks.

Want to marry your brother/sister? Go for it, please seriously consider adoption.

 

[Ryan Minns]

I don't have the slightest desire to have sex with a family member but a good friend of mine was in a long lasting sexual relationship with her brother and I honestly don't give a shit. Even when I found out I can't begin the explain how little of a fuck I gave. All I saw were two horny people not fucking random strangers and figured it was probably a good idea for them to be honest.

 

[Baron von Blitztank]

What a man and his sister do behind locked doors is entirely their own business but once offspring start becoming a bi-product of the relationship then, well...

 

[Arina Love]

incest in anime hell yeah i'm all up for it! especially twincest!

Spoiler

in real life it's ok but i wouldn't want to have children in that relationship

 

[Rosalia]

I love the fact that mature discussions gets an mix of mature and immature responses. I'm sure we know who the immature people are in this case.

That being said, incest has multiple points to it. For example, there's a saying that people are attracted to certain people because they remind them of their mother/father. Is that a sort of incest, or is that just logical attraction because you know what to expect of your potential mate since they are a lot like someone who had raised you?

I imagine that people being 'squinchy' about the issue is because they were raised to believe that it's so wrong and so disgusting by society that they need to put up strong barriers against the idea. Or may have had bad experiences with family members who had hit on them or even touched them.

Incest is alright as far as I'm concerned, but please think of the child/ren, prevent a difficult life from happening by not having kids with your sibling.

 

[Lt._nefarious]

Inbreeding is gross but the actual act of getting own and dirty with a relative isn't... That bad, I guess. Although there is something about the thought of a parent f-ing their child (who are both of legal age, of course) to be a tad, er, icky.

I personally wouldn't fuck any of my close relatives but I guess if I had, like, a really hot, older sister... No! Bad thoughts!

 

[CleverCover]

The thought of anything ever really happening between me and my brother freaks me the fuck out. Or any of my cousins for that matter. Eww no. Ewwwwww no. No. Ewwwwwwww.

But if it's two adults who really want to be together and decide on it together and stick with it, the romantic in me is totally okay with it. That part would even pelt you with rice from the wedding and cry tears of joy.

The rational part worries about genetic disease for a bit and then moves along. That part doesn't really focus long enough on one thing to care much.

 

[Ralen-Sharr]

both properly consenting adults? I don't really care if related people want to go at it. I don't even care how closely related they are.
Would I do it? Not with a sister, but maybe a cousin, and only if there is BC involved.

My level of give-a-crap is pretty low. Of course my family isn't really "tight" with one another, so that may be part of why I don't see it as horrible as some.

 

[White_Lama]

If both parts are in on it then who cares who you have sex with.

 

[theblindedhunter]

I'm in the camp of "if there are two consenting persons who understand the issues involved, then I have no say in what goes on between them." Additionally, I'll add that the issues of children from incestuous relationships are often overblown regarding single generations, and in a ways its still just playing the odds.

 

[Smeatza]

Inherently wrong and should be illegal, purely due to the risk of an inbred baby being born.
Personally I think it's weird.

 

[Aurora Firestorm]

The whole reason incest was shunned in the first place was because of the genetic disabilities it causes right? that shouldn't be as likely in cousins.

This is kind of blown out of proportion because incest doesn't cause genetic disabilities in children.

Whoa, hey. Yes, yes it does. Have you heard what royal family lineages were like, back in the day? Inbreeding in those populations caused some serious issues. Notice how purebred animals have strong and specific medical issues, like torsion in Akitas and hip dysplasia in...I think German Shepherds. This is because of inbreeding.

No, your genes don't magically screw up because you're having sex with a close family member, but who knows what little genetic problems are lurking, and even with technology, chances are you'd never see them until they popped out in your kids.


My opinion is, really now, don't do that with your family. There are so many other people out there. Just...don't even. I'd certainly not do it myself.

 

[The_Waspman]

Is this..? Just, what?

Has it come to this? Really, has it come to this!?!

 

[Sparrow]

I'll compare this to another issue: You know how homosexuality has been proven by all non-religously funded science to be harmless? And that kids from families with gay people or gay adoptive parents tend to be very happy and healthy? And there are just (adjusted for proportion) just as many long lasting monogamous gay relationships as heterosexual ones. The gays are accepted cause science and empathy make it clear they're A-okay. If they have problems, it's not because they're gay.

Incest doesn't have that kind of track record. Biologically and psychologically there seems to be real harm.

A few decades ago, homosexuality also had a pretty bad track record, simply because most gays were in the closet, so man of the ones who got outed were the ones caught with their pants down, often while raping someone, thus enforcing the stereotype that gays are depraved pedophiles, and generally sex-obsessed people who would fuck anything that moves.

Maybe the same is the case with incest. It's such a big taboo, that even if an average person doesn't feel the westermarck effect as strongly as others, they would rather deny getting turned on by family members, or at least do it secretly, so we don't see them having well-adjusted incestous relationships, and the only ones that don't follow that, are the ones with abnormally strong sex drives, or otherwise unwilling the follow cultural norms.

That kid is going to get genetically screwed because you took it upon yourself to screw your genetics

What's your stance on allowing people with genetic disorders to reproduce?

Not one of the pleasant kind.

 

[Loop Stricken]

The whole reason incest was shunned in the first place was because of the genetic disabilities it causes right? that shouldn't be as likely in cousins.

This is kind of blown out of proportion because incest doesn't cause genetic disabilities in children.

Whoa, hey. Yes, yes it does. Have you heard what royal family lineages were like, back in the day? Inbreeding in those populations caused some serious issues. Notice how purebred animals have strong and specific medical issues, like torsion in Akitas and hip dysplasia in...I think German Shepherds. This is because of inbreeding.

Constant, sustained inbreeding. The occasional sprog-popping with a relative every ten generations or so is going to do sweet-fuck-all to the gene pool.

Is this..? Just, what?

Has it come to this? Really, has it come to this!?!

Give it a few months and it'll come to this again.

 

[Cavan]

As a geneticist I thought I would add an amusing tipbit to this.

If your parents are brother and sister, then it is technically possible for you to have the exact same DNA as a single on of your grandparents and therefore functionally be a clone of them.

In practice this is virtually impossible but still amusing to think about, in a slightly sick and twisted way.

I feel like this is how early research into cloning technology was 'handled'.

*is contributing to this thread*

captcha "Caesar salad"..why does that somehow seem inappropriate?