I honestly don't care, but I DO question the mental health of anyone who wants to have sex with a close relative.
Incest.
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hell yeah its wrong! imoral, disgusting and against the law!
like that one story a while back about some 70 year old woman in an relationship with her grandson... like seriously! what the hell?!
like that one story a while back about some 70 year old woman in an relationship with her grandson... like seriously! what the hell?!
I've got to say I think that's a little strong!Funkiest Monkey said:
Morality is also something expressed by people and different people have different morals.ImprovizoR said:
I'm sorry, no. It happens to be your mother that I'm interested in.kaizen2468 said:
I'm fine with incestuous relationships if others find themselves wanting them, but I personally have no desire of it. Reproduction within incestuous relations tends to almost always be very genetically and physiologically dysfunctional though, which leads me to highly question any attempts within those relationships for such.
Only when one of the members of the "relationship" cannot consent (or isn't human), is when I draw the line personally. Like marriage to pillowcases, or bestiality.
Only when one of the members of the "relationship" cannot consent (or isn't human), is when I draw the line personally. Like marriage to pillowcases, or bestiality.
Dun wanna. Really[ don't care all that much about this sort of thing; I only commented as, after readin the OP, my brain threw up Westermarck and I thought I'd be clever enough for nobody else to know.BGH122 said:
Alas.
Actually there is proof, it's not necessarily biological family members, so much as the people you are raised with. Studies turn up people who where adopted who where not attracted to their siblings in their family who met their real siblings and admitted to some form of attraction to them.BGH122 said:
It's not learned behavior either, most people are not attracted to people they where raised with.
Sure, what the problem with a father fucking his daughter? That's completely normal.
Are you fucking kidding me? This is a deranged thread, right from the off. "Just cuz'" not being accepted as an argument because you already know that basically the only argument there is, when you count "Because it's wrong" and "Not morally, socially or ethically acceptable" as "Just cuz'".
This is a damn joke.
No, incest is not okay. Not now. Not ever. Not in any case, ever.
Are you fucking kidding me? This is a deranged thread, right from the off. "Just cuz'" not being accepted as an argument because you already know that basically the only argument there is, when you count "Because it's wrong" and "Not morally, socially or ethically acceptable" as "Just cuz'".
This is a damn joke.
No, incest is not okay. Not now. Not ever. Not in any case, ever.
You realize you sound like a person akin to a fanatical opposer of gay marriages, right?HTID Raver said:
I must admit I am quite surprised at how this thread has gone so far. I make no judgments, but I would not have guessed it ahead of time!
As far as the brain being wired to not be attracted to siblings or offspring, that is not as simple as you might think. There is a critical period during childhood development, during which you will develop that sort of aversion to sex with a sibling. However, there are cases where siblings have been separated early in life and thus have not developed that aversion. Usually what happens is that, if they do not have this early development aversion, they are INCREDIBLY attracted to each other because they have so many similarities in behavior and temperament. In other words, the "natural" aversion siblings have to each other comes about because of environment, not genetics. Sibling incest is by far the most common form, followed by father-child incest.
As far as parent-child incest, I'm not sure about the psychological mechanisms. I know that mother-son incest is the rarest form, and considering how much psychological rewiring occurs when a woman gives birth it's not too hard to figure out why. But I don't know about father-child incest.
Also, as far as reproduction goes, even between siblings it is often not a huge genetic problem as long as it only occurs for the one generation. The genetic problems people usually point to occur when there has been generation after generation of inbreeding, like with noble families. The risks are higher, obviously, but it's not like most people assume it to be.
By the way, I am a psychology (actually biopsychology) major, so I do have a reason to know this stuff!
As far as the brain being wired to not be attracted to siblings or offspring, that is not as simple as you might think. There is a critical period during childhood development, during which you will develop that sort of aversion to sex with a sibling. However, there are cases where siblings have been separated early in life and thus have not developed that aversion. Usually what happens is that, if they do not have this early development aversion, they are INCREDIBLY attracted to each other because they have so many similarities in behavior and temperament. In other words, the "natural" aversion siblings have to each other comes about because of environment, not genetics. Sibling incest is by far the most common form, followed by father-child incest.
As far as parent-child incest, I'm not sure about the psychological mechanisms. I know that mother-son incest is the rarest form, and considering how much psychological rewiring occurs when a woman gives birth it's not too hard to figure out why. But I don't know about father-child incest.
Also, as far as reproduction goes, even between siblings it is often not a huge genetic problem as long as it only occurs for the one generation. The genetic problems people usually point to occur when there has been generation after generation of inbreeding, like with noble families. The risks are higher, obviously, but it's not like most people assume it to be.
By the way, I am a psychology (actually biopsychology) major, so I do have a reason to know this stuff!
Depends on how close. And while there's nothing technically wrong with siblings if no reproduction is involved, I'll still go "EWH!" for about 10 minutes any time I hear a story like that.
For your analogy to work, you'd have to have scientific evidence of God, comparable to the cited studies.BGH122 said:
Considering the imprinting in question doesn't have a cultural explanation (the societies in question don't have taboos against non-related children marrying, and yet they still rarely do), and your distinction between "behavioral" and "biological" strikes me as a false one, a biological explanation makes the most sense.
Let's dispel that myth right here. Hauser et al (2010), written up very nicely here [http://bps-research-digest.blogspot.com/2010/03/remote-rural-community-that-thinks.html], showed with global testing both online and, where internet doesn't exist (e.g. his rural Mayan sample), offline, showed that human morality is essentially unanimous in many issues with only small aberrations from culture to culture.ImprovizoR said:
The old relativist view of morality, which was essentially tantamount to a get-out-of-jail-free card for moral reasoning, must now sod off since it's been shown that morality clearly depends upon a central core of shared biological or social impulse thus rendering 'moral realism' and 'moral argument' valid. If we all share morality at a core level then human moral truths can exist, whilst they wouldn't be valid to an alien or an animal there's little to say that any of our truths would.
Ah I see, ok then I stand corrected. I thought it was genetically imprinted behavior. Not to say that I was implying that a pair of siblings having a relationship was wrong, I just assumed that that arose out of some kind of brain malfunction.Helmutye said:
While I find it morally questionable, and I myself can't even begin thinking of doing it, if you wanna do it and the other sibling wants to do it, then do it. Just don't expect a pretty life (unless others near you also partake in incest), especially from me (I don't think I can associate with Incestuous families).