NONONO!!! You are doing it all wrong! You are supposed to send death threats to people when you are emotional and not thinking!Bat Vader said:
Gah! Havn't you learned anything!?
Indie Dev Threatens to Kill Gabe Newell, Valve Pulls His Game From Steam
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Gah! Havn't you learned anything!?
Death threats. No, no. I propose in the heat of things to send life threats instead. In utter rage and revenge it's far more suitable to prolong your victims then snuff them out. To murder only quenches your thirst once, and they to feel pain and disappointment once. But to send them multi-vitamins and healthy eating books allows you to soak up every drop of pain in their life. A smile for every dropped ice cream you know.Ragnar47183 said:
I got an idea lets lock Phil Fish and this dude in a room together with one tv and all it displays is criticisms of their respective games and see who kills them self first. The answer, anti climatically, is that neither will. Because actually suicide victims don't fucking threaten to kill themselves for attention on twitter. Idiots. Though they might kill each other since they're both very unpleasant and short tempered people.
Some people around here may wanna check in a book or Wikipedia, what Monopoly means.
For those people, the East India Trading company is clearly the big Antagonist from Pirates of the Carribean 2 and a Unit in some games, and Rockefeller made his Money by wearing top hats in New York. <.<
That those people actually have jobs behind desks (probably) makes it even sadder...
(OT /off)
OK seriously, death threats are one thing, but why in the open on twitter, so that everybody can see what an impatient entitled thing you are and not like everybody else by himself with coffee and rings under his eyes?
Lesson learned, or do we get a Phil Fish substitute?
For those people, the East India Trading company is clearly the big Antagonist from Pirates of the Carribean 2 and a Unit in some games, and Rockefeller made his Money by wearing top hats in New York. <.<
That those people actually have jobs behind desks (probably) makes it even sadder...
(OT /off)
OK seriously, death threats are one thing, but why in the open on twitter, so that everybody can see what an impatient entitled thing you are and not like everybody else by himself with coffee and rings under his eyes?
Lesson learned, or do we get a Phil Fish substitute?
So dumbass said a public statement that was horribly inappropriate and got smacked down for it? Good!
Sort of relieved to hear that can still actually happen in the gaming industry with the sheer amount of it going on and being excused lately because "the trolls did it first".
But yeah, guy was a dumbass, got what he deserved (and probably lucky he didn't get worse) and the internet has a new butt to jokes for a little while. Good outcome all said and done.
Sort of relieved to hear that can still actually happen in the gaming industry with the sheer amount of it going on and being excused lately because "the trolls did it first".
But yeah, guy was a dumbass, got what he deserved (and probably lucky he didn't get worse) and the internet has a new butt to jokes for a little while. Good outcome all said and done.
You have a valid point, I'd just like to entertain the laughter that you get from imagining him grovelling to EA, for their origin service.oldtaku said:
Well, yeah, you shouldn't be sending death threaths. And I'm going to toss out this crazy idea here that even if the guy you threathen doesn't have the power to screw you over financially or otherwise you still shouldn't send death threaths because that is a bad thing to do. I can't blame valve for cutting all ties, obviously. It is kind of weird that the article puts it as 'don't bite the hand that feeds you' when even if the hand doesn't feed you, biting, in the form of death threats is unacceptable.
what he did was wrong , but steam is a pile of $^%^ . How about having service reps instead of tickets so we dont wait 2 weeks for help and how about the dicks dont do dumb stuff like stealing $50 of my visa and then after two weeks of ticket and a month of waiting of bull crap they return it and put a hold on my acount for a month lol why because i caught them trying to steal and i get punished , it reminds me of mcdonalds having bigmac sales at 99 cents and trying to put 1 meat pattie in every 20 bigmacs . Steam is a horrible run company for the gamer .
you are whats wrong with this world , grow up please the human race is made of people who all like diffrent things and look diffrent we are not all some WW2 Nazi clones . I hate sports games and o god i wish they were never made and i feel people are very st%&^ to buy them when every year its the same boring junk with a upgraded roster but guess what there are people who love them so that is cool and i actually liked his game as i did fez also. so try using some brain power instead of making your self look like your 8Olrod said:
Lesson learned: don't bite the hand that feeds you
Uh, no. lets correct this. The "lesson" is
That is what consumers need to see more of. They need that fun house mirror that they look at that convinces them that steam is good for players, and developers all out of the goodness of its capitalistic little heart to be shatters so the distorted image the mass public has of steam can actually be seen for what is at the very forefront of what is wrong with the industry today. Showing the public the fact that ever steam user is actively hurting ALL gamers does nothing. Showing them the fact that Steams products have inherently less value but are charged as if they were the same does nothing. Showing how Steam screwed every gamer in every country other than the US has done nothing.
Pointing out Steam has made unlawful demands of its customers has done nothing. Pointing out that steam is not above holding your library hostage in order to coerce your compliance to their unlawful demands has done nothing. Pointing out that steam has already reneged on their terms and forced all gamers to agree to alteration of the deal after the terms of the transaction had already been agreed to has done nothing. Cant escape this comparison.
And most importantly as it relates to this topic, Showing people that you get NOTHING in exchange for your money when you make a purchase through steam clearly does nothing with pages of patting each other on the back for coming to the defense of their "benevolent gaming benefactors" when a developer has in fact shown each and every steam user exactly how easy it is to have that vast backlog you have sunk tons of money into that you want to whine and cry over the beating your wallet is being given every time Steam has a sale is at the pleasure of Gaben, Valve, and its subsidiaries that can be taken from you at any time with or without reason. The developer has proven this unequivocally to each and every one reading this because what you actually saw in the whole exchange is a developer said something that Steam did not approve of and without batting an eye cut them off their service. Now think how quick you would lose that precious library of games you bought because they were cheap but you know you will never install them, much less play them, would go up in smoke and all the money you sunk into it goes with it, if you did the exact same thing and it was able to catch enough attention. Now if you think they didnt bat an eye over dropping PA dev... imagine how little they are going to care when it is just a consumer who they do not actually have a binding contract with, and the only thing in place is your capitulation to unfavorable terms of service written in thick legalese to ensure you have no recourse no matter how you protest.
Witness has been bore to what Valve does to those who do things that goes against their wishes. So there is no excuse for anyone to keep operating with this insane valve can do no wrong mentality when almost everything they have done has wrong either you or another gamer like you. Cease this "but that would never happen to me" mentality already because its that denial that is choking the life out of this industry and makes it harder for proper alternatives doing legitimate business to take root by doing correctly what Steam insists on doing wrong.
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Oh and Ill admit im not siphoning 5 pages worth of posts to verify so I will just say, in case it hasnt already been pointed out, Paranautical Activity was not some steam exclusive, so to claim
http://www.desura.com/games/paranautical-activity
I guess It is understandable to make such a mistake. When the overwhelming majority of consumers perpetuate the fallacy of Steams benefit, it dupes developers into believing it too, especially when Steam actively preyed upon them. So when you have both consumers and developers perpetuating such fallacy, then of course journalists would fall prey to the same trap. Sad but true and it is that point made example that illustrates just how bad this problem has become thanks to the false notion that steam is "the only" anything.killed
Uh, no. lets correct this. The "lesson" is
But to be honest the REAL point that was being made was
No amount of "But I like steam because they tell me to" does not change the fact that Steam is horrendous for all consumers of ANY digitally distributed content on ALL platforms thanks to their grievous mishandling and malicious butchery of this industry. This is in fact something incredibly important because its finally showing what has been lacking proper attention. The fact that steam hurts developers every bit, if not more than it ever helps them.
That is what consumers need to see more of. They need that fun house mirror that they look at that convinces them that steam is good for players, and developers all out of the goodness of its capitalistic little heart to be shatters so the distorted image the mass public has of steam can actually be seen for what is at the very forefront of what is wrong with the industry today. Showing the public the fact that ever steam user is actively hurting ALL gamers does nothing. Showing them the fact that Steams products have inherently less value but are charged as if they were the same does nothing. Showing how Steam screwed every gamer in every country other than the US has done nothing.
Pointing out Steam has made unlawful demands of its customers has done nothing. Pointing out that steam is not above holding your library hostage in order to coerce your compliance to their unlawful demands has done nothing. Pointing out that steam has already reneged on their terms and forced all gamers to agree to alteration of the deal after the terms of the transaction had already been agreed to has done nothing. Cant escape this comparison.
And most importantly as it relates to this topic, Showing people that you get NOTHING in exchange for your money when you make a purchase through steam clearly does nothing with pages of patting each other on the back for coming to the defense of their "benevolent gaming benefactors" when a developer has in fact shown each and every steam user exactly how easy it is to have that vast backlog you have sunk tons of money into that you want to whine and cry over the beating your wallet is being given every time Steam has a sale is at the pleasure of Gaben, Valve, and its subsidiaries that can be taken from you at any time with or without reason. The developer has proven this unequivocally to each and every one reading this because what you actually saw in the whole exchange is a developer said something that Steam did not approve of and without batting an eye cut them off their service. Now think how quick you would lose that precious library of games you bought because they were cheap but you know you will never install them, much less play them, would go up in smoke and all the money you sunk into it goes with it, if you did the exact same thing and it was able to catch enough attention. Now if you think they didnt bat an eye over dropping PA dev... imagine how little they are going to care when it is just a consumer who they do not actually have a binding contract with, and the only thing in place is your capitulation to unfavorable terms of service written in thick legalese to ensure you have no recourse no matter how you protest.
Witness has been bore to what Valve does to those who do things that goes against their wishes. So there is no excuse for anyone to keep operating with this insane valve can do no wrong mentality when almost everything they have done has wrong either you or another gamer like you. Cease this "but that would never happen to me" mentality already because its that denial that is choking the life out of this industry and makes it harder for proper alternatives doing legitimate business to take root by doing correctly what Steam insists on doing wrong.
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Oh and Ill admit im not siphoning 5 pages worth of posts to verify so I will just say, in case it hasnt already been pointed out, Paranautical Activity was not some steam exclusive, so to claim
It might be a good idea to make sure what you are going to say is actually accurate before handing out life tips.
http://www.desura.com/games/paranautical-activity
I guess It is understandable to make such a mistake. When the overwhelming majority of consumers perpetuate the fallacy of Steams benefit, it dupes developers into believing it too, especially when Steam actively preyed upon them. So when you have both consumers and developers perpetuating such fallacy, then of course journalists would fall prey to the same trap. Sad but true and it is that point made example that illustrates just how bad this problem has become thanks to the false notion that steam is "the only" anything.killed